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How would YOU rate MANTIS -as an Avenger- on a scale of 10?

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What's a most memorable "Avengers scene" with her that is stored in your memory?

HOW EXCITED are you for Mantis with the movie Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 due out? How 'bout Pom Klementieff?

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    How would YOU rate MANTIS -as an Avenger- on a scale of 10?




I hate her.

But she was fine in Guardians of the Galaxy 2 because I got Drax insulting her most of the movie.


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I really don't like anything about the character.

Not even the GotG stuff.


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If this means, 'did good work as an Avenger', then causing trouble and being a tag along would sort of cover it - at least in the early days. In my opinion, the entire issue where she marries the Swordsman is laugh out loud funny and I don't think it was intended to be. Over in WCA, Mantis (or a reasonable simulation) caused trouble once again and nearly killed everyone in her first appearance. I liked that though and would have liked her to stick around. If this means, 'made the books better', well... the early rendition is a bit racist to a modern reader, I suppose, but normal for the era. Some fun was had and it was nice to see a different female member of the cast. Outside, Avengers? I never read the pre-Bendis Guardians, but I liked Mantis in Silver Surfer and in her very recent Guardians appearance. Bendis can give a character two pages and make me love them. I would like to see her back with the Avengers. As for the movie - the actor could have been portraying a character other than Mantis and it wouldn't have made any difference. This wasn't Mantis exactly as we tend to see her: Celestial Madonna, skilled fighter, temptress... although this did capture some of the innocence we often got with this character. Kind of surprised the sequel went with a slave female character, when it had come in for some criticism of the female slaves under The Collector's control.


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    If this means, 'did good work as an Avenger', then causing trouble and being a tag along would sort of cover it - at least in the early days. In my opinion, the entire issue where she marries the Swordsman is laugh out loud funny and I don't think it was intended to be. Over in WCA, Mantis (or a reasonable simulation) caused trouble once again and nearly killed everyone in her first appearance. I liked that though and would have liked her to stick around. If this means, 'made the books better', well... the early rendition is a bit racist to a modern reader, I suppose, but normal for the era. Some fun was had and it was nice to see a different female member of the cast. Outside, Avengers? I never read the pre-Bendis Guardians, but I liked Mantis in Silver Surfer and in her very recent Guardians appearance. Bendis can give a character two pages and make me love them. I would like to see her back with the Avengers. As for the movie - the actor could have been portraying a character other than Mantis and it wouldn't have made any difference. This wasn't Mantis exactly as we tend to see her: Celestial Madonna, skilled fighter, temptress... although this did capture some of the innocence we often got with this character. Kind of surprised the sequel went with a slave female character, when it had come in for some criticism of the female slaves under The Collector's control.


Yeah I think the reason she worked in the movie was that she was nothing like her annoying comic book counterpart. There wasn't the alien kung fu, being pimped out as a prostitute by uncle, trying to seduce robots and being the brood sow for an alien tree, dying and coming back as some plant person...they just reinvented her from the ground up. And I didn't have to hear her say "This One".


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I dug her back when she was first introduced in the Avengers. The whole mystery of her origin, her aloof femme fatale demeanor, and the unfolding revelations of the Celestial Madonna saga really intrigued me.

However, the stories really seem to be a product of the 70's and don't really hold up now. She now reads as stereotypically racist in concept. I think Swamp Thing did it better with the whole marriage of a human female and "The Green" thing.

Still, I think the character still has so much potential if appropriately updated. I'd love to see her return but it would have to be at the hands of a very capable writer.

I now think her best moments after The Avengers was in the SIlver Surfer ( under her creator Englehart) and again in Keith Giffen's Starlord mini series, which introduced her to the Guardians of the Galaxy.

I say bring her her back



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