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Which of these three -- S.K.I.N., Smartware, or Extremis -- is the most advanced? Each one is deployable from a liquid base. Each one seems capable of networking external components. Each one is a kind of nano-based mechanism. So which one is more advanced?

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sgthenshaw




It's just too much. I really want to get into Iron Man, but I couldn't give two sh!ts, about his 500x different armours.

IM is a great concept, but superheroes really should have one-basic look and stick with it; otherwise it becomes a Joel Shumacher Batman flick where we're supposed to be excited everytime bats puts on a more "advanced" costume.


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IMJ




> It's just too much. I really want to get into Iron Man, but I couldn't give two sh!ts, about his 500x different armours.
>
> IM is a great concept, but superheroes really should have one-basic look and stick with it; otherwise it becomes a Joel Shumacher Batman flick where we're supposed to be excited everytime bats puts on a more "advanced" costume.
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Although Iron Man should be adaptable and use specialty armors, I think that Marvel has done very well to maintain the overall look of the modern armor for some time now. Even the recent Extremis stream lining has carried over the look from Grell's designs. The biggest changes over the last few years really have been only the omission of the tubular style arms and legs. I still thought that Mike Ryan had one of the best takes on the armor in a long time.
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Invyc




> > It's just too much. I really want to get into Iron Man, but I couldn't give two sh!ts, about his 500x different armours.
> >
> > IM is a great concept, but superheroes really should have one-basic look and stick with it; otherwise it becomes a Joel Shumacher Batman flick where we're supposed to be excited everytime bats puts on a more "advanced" costume.
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>
> Although Iron Man should be adaptable and use specialty armors, I think that Marvel has done very well to maintain the overall look of the modern armor for some time now. Even the recent Extremis stream lining has carried over the look from Grell's designs. The biggest changes over the last few years really have been only the omission of the tubular style arms and legs. I still thought that Mike Ryan had one of the best takes on the armor in a long time.
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> Ironman John

I swear I thought you just said Meg Ryan had one of the best takes on the armor....I was so baffled I had to reread it twice! \:\) On the other hand, who's to say she couldn't draw? And if it's awesome, I'll have what she's having!




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IMJ




> > > It's just too much. I really want to get into Iron Man, but I couldn't give two sh!ts, about his 500x different armours.
> > >
> > > IM is a great concept, but superheroes really should have one-basic look and stick with it; otherwise it becomes a Joel Shumacher Batman flick where we're supposed to be excited everytime bats puts on a more "advanced" costume.
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> >
> > Although Iron Man should be adaptable and use specialty armors, I think that Marvel has done very well to maintain the overall look of the modern armor for some time now. Even the recent Extremis stream lining has carried over the look from Grell's designs. The biggest changes over the last few years really have been only the omission of the tubular style arms and legs. I still thought that Mike Ryan had one of the best takes on the armor in a long time.
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> > Ironman John
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> I swear I thought you just said Meg Ryan had one of the best takes on the armor....I was so baffled I had to reread it twice! \:\) On the other hand, who's to say she couldn't draw? And if it's awesome, I'll have what she's having!
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Leonard




> It's just too much. I really want to get into Iron Man, but I couldn't give two sh!ts, about his 500x different armours.
>

My friend, it is not THAT complicated. In fact, it is convenient, because it helps place a story in a specific era. And there are not 500... Behold:

1 - Gray original. One issue.
2 - Golden Avenger. About a dozen issues.
3 - Protoclassic / Horned. Early Avengers.
4 - Transitional (riveted helmet etc.) Early Avengers.
5 - Classic. While this armor lasted for about 20 years without structural appearance changes, you can still make a sort of division based on the position of the nipples.
6 - Silver Centurion. 30 issues.
7 - Neo-classic. About 50 issues.
8 - War Machine. Only 10 issues or so.
9 - Iron Machine. Only about 10 issues.
10 - Modular. About 25 issues.
11 - Crossing / Iron Boy.
12 - Heroes Reborn. One year.
13 - Heroes Return. About ten issues.
14 - EM-safe / Sentient armor. about thirty issues.
15 - SKIN-armor. 6 (six) issues.
16 - Tin Man - about twenty issues.
17 - Iron Secretary - about twelve issues.
18 - Extremis - about twelve issues until now.

These are all the mainstream armors, and they are not difficult to tell apart. Everything else is special, one-off.

> IM is a great concept, but superheroes really should have one-basic look and stick with it;

Iron Man DOES. They ALL have the "slit-eyes, mouthslit"-face plate and the chest beam, and almost always red-and-gold as the color scheme.

> otherwise it becomes a Joel Shumacher Batman flick where we're supposed to be excited everytime bats puts on a more "advanced" costume.

This is where the essential differences between Iron Man and Batman come into play.


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Invyc




> > It's just too much. I really want to get into Iron Man, but I couldn't give two sh!ts, about his 500x different armours.
> >
>
> My friend, it is not THAT complicated. In fact, it is convenient, because it helps place a story in a specific era. And there are not 500... Behold:
>
> 1 - Gray original. One issue.
> 2 - Golden Avenger. About a dozen issues.
> 3 - Protoclassic / Horned. Early Avengers.
> 4 - Transitional (riveted helmet etc.) Early Avengers.
> 5 - Classic. While this armor lasted for about 20 years without structural appearance changes, you can still make a sort of division based on the position of the nipples.
> 6 - Silver Centurion. 30 issues.
> 7 - Neo-classic. About 50 issues.
> 8 - War Machine. Only 10 issues or so.
> 9 - Iron Machine. Only about 10 issues.
> 10 - Modular. About 25 issues.
> 11 - Crossing / Iron Boy.
> 12 - Heroes Reborn. One year.
> 13 - Heroes Return. About ten issues.
> 14 - EM-safe / Sentient armor. about thirty issues.
> 15 - SKIN-armor. 6 (six) issues.
> 16 - Tin Man - about twenty issues.
> 17 - Iron Secretary - about twelve issues.
> 18 - Extremis - about twelve issues until now.
>
> These are all the mainstream armors, and they are not difficult to tell apart. Everything else is special, one-off.

I actually kind of enjoyed the Operation: Galactic Storm take on space armor, but I suppose it does fall into the one-off category. Although it did float around (space jokes, aren't they great?) for a few issues during that arc.

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> > IM is a great concept, but superheroes really should have one-basic look and stick with it;
>
> Iron Man DOES. They ALL have the "slit-eyes, mouthslit"-face plate and the chest beam, and almost always red-and-gold as the color scheme.

Exactly. Iron Man has a very distinct visual style and color scheme that remains relatively constant in any of his incarnations. And let's me honest here...if you're a billionaire genius industrialist superhero who's designed the ultimate weapon platform, don't you think you're going to continuously upgrade it to stay on the bleeding edge of technology? I'd be more appalled if he didn't. And almost any modification is going to have some cosmetic impact on the design.

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> > otherwise it becomes a Joel Shumacher Batman flick where we're supposed to be excited everytime bats puts on a more "advanced" costume.
>
> This is where the essential differences between Iron Man and Batman come into play.

...but we should be excited for Batman! After all, he obviously is! You said it yourself: look at those nipples! He's cutting glass, man. Obviously he's very pleased with the new outfits, and his excitement is contagious. \:\)


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Rach




> It's just too much. I really want to get into Iron Man, but I couldn't give two sh!ts, about his 500x different armours.
>
> IM is a great concept, but superheroes really should have one-basic look and stick with it; otherwise it becomes a Joel Shumacher Batman flick where we're supposed to be excited everytime bats puts on a more "advanced" costume.

More or less all of the big armor changes happened for actual story reasons and none of them have happened in the last five years.


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Leonard





> More or less all of the big armor changes happened for actual story reasons and none of them have happened in the last five years.

Except for "Tin Man", "Iron Secretary" and "Extremis".


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Vanko




> It's just too much. I really want to get into Iron Man, but I couldn't give two sh!ts, about his 500x different armours.
>
> IM is a great concept, but superheroes really should have one-basic look and stick with it; otherwise it becomes a Joel Shumacher Batman flick where we're supposed to be excited everytime bats puts on a more "advanced" costume.

So it's clear why you're not an IM fan. An Iron Man fan DOES "get into" his armors. "Superheroes should"? How many outfits has Wolverine gone through? I don't think Wolvie would take too kindly to the Shumacher analogy. But that aside...if you're not into IM, fine. The very reason you don't embrace him is part of what drives our loyalty.

The point of this character is improvement. He's basically a pretty mortal guy who invents his way into better, faster, stronger superheroics. So it's only logical the suit should change over the years.

And what, red-and-gold isn't basic enough for you?


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Rach




>
> > More or less all of the big armor changes happened for actual story reasons and none of them have happened in the last five years.
>
> Except for "Tin Man", "Iron Secretary" and "Extremis".

Superficial changes, the main structure stayed basically the same. The old red and golds didn't look the same when Gene Colan or Bob Layton were drawing them, either.


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