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Subj: Re: Arrow Season 5 finale May 24th
Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 at 08:53:08 am EDT (Viewed 134 times)
Reply Subj: Arrow Season 5 finale May 24th
Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 at 09:44:45 pm EDT (Viewed 161 times)




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    Okay so......................EVERYBODY DIES!!



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    No, just kidding.



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    More pathos between Speedy and Malcolm. Malcolm may have given his life for her and the others, however the explosion that took him and Capt. Boomerang was OFF CAMERA. So aside from censorship, the door is left ajar for either to return.....


I've heard the actor who plays Malcolm won't appear next season because he has other things he's working on. So if we get a season 7 he's alive and if we don't he's dead IMO. I love the character but Malcolm has been around doing shady stuff for 5 seasons...might be time to give his character a brief rest.



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    .....except for one major thing. Chase managed to plant C4 charges all over the island. Yes that's right, nearly every square inch is loaded with C4 charges and linked to a dead man switch, Chase dies and they explode.


1. I'm glad William didn't die...if he died I was quitting the show. I'm not interested in watching if Oliver's kid is murdered and Oliver never gets a chance to raise him. William and Thea are all the family Oliver has left.

2. Everyone else but Thea and Diggle can die and I'll be good. Felicity, Curtis, Dinah, Quentin, Samantha...well maybe not Rene or Nyssa...but kill off all the rest and I'm good. I want Samantha dead so Oliver can finally be a parent...even though this episode sorta proved she was right all along about not wanting people to know William is Oliver's son.


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    Team Arrow gets to Chase's plane which has been sabotaged and no time or tools to repair it. Oliver tells them an Argus supply boat is at the east end of the island and they must get to it while he deals with Chase and saves William.



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    Also during the big fight, did anyone else imagine the Mortal Kombat theme song or Kung Fu Fighting playing in their head? Either piece of music felt appropriate to me.



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    Oliver saves William, Chase gives a farewell speech then blows his brains out, which triggers the dead man switch immediately and the episode ends with Oliver on Chase's boat with William as the island explodes.



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    Talia, Capt. Boomerang and Malcolm may have been dead before the big bang. However Malcolm and Boomerang was an off camera "death".


Boomerangs always come back. It was a treat to see him again...I wish Boomerang had a bigger role in the Arrowverse...that actor's character on Spartacus was my favorite.


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    Did the rest of Team Arrow along with Nyssa and Slade make it off the island in time? Have to wait for Season 6 to find out.


I assume Sarah and at least one other character (Evelyn maybe) is wormfood so it won't be a cop out. Someone has to be sacrificed to the gods of television during a season finale cliffhanger.


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    But hey, this gives them the chance to kill off any character whose contract has expired and isn't getting renewed ;\)


My gut tells me Thea is dead even though I hate the idea. The actress's appearances were very limited this season and they just resolved her relationship with Malcolm more or less. That said I sure hope she doesn't die. I've been waiting for Thea to meet her nephew


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    Flashbacks: Oliver kills Lundgren, then quickly suits up in the fake wig, beard and hooded outfit he was wearing in episode one, then Tarzan's across the island to light the fire in time for the boat to find him.




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    The mystery cameo of a character in this episode was in the flashbacks as Oliver is on the fishing boat using a phone to call his mother, Moira to tell her he is alive.


I could have sworn we were told Bruce Wayne was going to be in the finale and that he was going to be played by that guy from the Originals. I must have read that wrong.

But it's always a delight to see Moira. To me Moira was one of the more complex characters on the show.


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    Roy Harper does not appear at all.



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    Slade Wilson is given data by Oliver on his son, Joe. Slade states the Murkuru is out of his system and he is mentally stable again. Boomerang was apparently working with Oliver but sided with Chase due to a better offer.


So looks like we will eventually see Jericho.

I was sort of glad Oliver and Slade just sort of put their past behind them and worked together. There was a friendship there at one point. Maybe their feud can reignite later but I was glad they put it aside here.


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    Also be afraid, be very afraid......another major hint that OLICITY shall return!!!!! ;\)


I think if William is around and Samantha is dead Felicity will have to stifle some of her selfishness. Helping Oliver raise William might calm her down. I doubt she will have one of her relationship isn't working crying meltdowns if she's got a traumatized pre-teen to deal with.


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    So on the island at the time of the big kaboom we have:



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    Team Arrow
    Nyssa
    Slade Wilson
    Lance (though I think of him as part of Team Arrow)



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    Talia (possibly dead already)
    Any surviving joe ninja warriors
    Black Siren aka evil Laurel (though they have stated she is to appear in Season 6)
    Boomerang
    Malcolm Merlyn



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    Who will live? Who knows? Only the writers and the contract holders shall know for sure.



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    So Season 5 ends in to me a slightly better end then Season 4. Season 5 started good, then dropped then perked up in time for the finale.



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    Also no appearance of Bruce Wayne.



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    Predictions for who doesn't get off the island:



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    1. I think I remember reading that the actor that plays Merlyn has stated he will not be in Season 6. Though the landmine explosion was off camera, he could have been killed or badly wounded and didn't escape before the island exploded, so I predict Malcolm is dead.



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    2. Black Siren was already planned for next season.



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    3. The Team Arrow member that betrayed them for Chase, I predict is dead.



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    4. Talia was left unconscious and hurt after the fight with Nyssa. Likely killed in the explosions.



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    5. Slade Wilson: I want him back as a recurring friend/enemy, the poison is no longer in him and he had some sage advice for Oliver in this episode, plus there is the fact that he killed Oliver's mother.



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    6. Nyssa: I want her dead because I am tired of the League of Shadows and that marriage she has to Oliver. End it already.



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    7. Wild Dog: not a huge fan of this quasi-Punisher and the plot about getting his kid back is wearing thin. Also if he did get custody he'd have to quit being a vigilante.



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    8. Mr. Terrific: he's funny and a good technician. I suspect that for other reasons he will live.



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    9. Diggle: too good a character to kill off.


If Diggle ever gets killed off it needs to be BIG. It needs to be a story that brings Diggle full circle in a Diggle centric episode. This death in a C-4 explosion designed to wipe out everyone just wouldn't cut it. If Diggle ever dies I want some fanfare damn it. Diggle's become the closest thing Oliver has to a brother...if and when Diggle dies that needs to set Oliver down his path for the rest of the series. Diggle is the heart of the show IMO. If he ever gets killed off I want it to be near the end of the series so that it's fresh on Oliver's mind when the series ends.



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    10. Felicity: they have been teasing the return of Olicity. It would be kind of cruel to the fans to kill her off and end it.


I will admit...she hasn't been that bad this season. In seasons 3 and 4 she was unbearable. But they dialed her back this year. I remember I used to love the character in seasons 1 and 2 but when they started to push Olicity she became annoying as heck.


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    11. Black Canary: she was just introduced this past season, seems a shame to kill her off.


I wouldn't miss her.


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    Also the island should be pretty devastated and thus no need to return to it in the future and this season appears to have wrapped up the island flash backs which is a good thing.


Next year will be flash forwards to Queen Consolidated turning Lian Yu into a golf resort. Then the next year will be an alternate timeline showing what happened if Oliver never left the island.




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