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Subj: Re: Arrow Season 5 finale May 24th
Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 at 09:38:50 pm EDT (Viewed 5 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Arrow Season 5 finale May 24th
Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 at 09:32:44 am EDT (Viewed 122 times)

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    Okay so......................EVERYBODY DIES!!



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    No, just kidding.



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    More pathos between Speedy and Malcolm. Malcolm may have given his life for her and the others, however the explosion that took him and Capt. Boomerang was OFF CAMERA. So aside from censorship, the door is left ajar for either to return.....


Yes a return of Malcolm down the road with a prosthetic leg is easy to envision.


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    .....except for one major thing. Chase managed to plant C4 charges all over the island. Yes that's right, nearly every square inch is loaded with C4 charges and linked to a dead man switch, Chase dies and they explode.


This was the only thing about the episode I didn't like. He had what, like $700 million of C-4 all over the island, that would have taken a year to plant. Beyond silly.


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    Team Arrow gets to Chase's plane which has been sabotaged and no time or tools to repair it. Oliver tells them an Argus supply boat is at the east end of the island and they must get to it while he deals with Chase and saves William.



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    Also during the big fight, did anyone else imagine the Mortal Kombat theme song or Kung Fu Fighting playing in their head? Either piece of music felt appropriate to me.



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    Oliver saves William, Chase gives a farewell speech then blows his brains out, which triggers the dead man switch immediately and the episode ends with Oliver on Chase's boat with William as the island explodes.




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    Talia, Capt. Boomerang and Malcolm may have been dead before the big bang. However Malcolm and Boomerang was an off camera "death".



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    Did the rest of Team Arrow along with Nyssa and Slade make it off the island in time? Have to wait for Season 6 to find out.



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    But hey, this gives them the chance to kill off any character whose contract has expired and isn't getting renewed ;\)



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    Flashbacks: Oliver kills Lundgren, then quickly suits up in the fake wig, beard and hooded outfit he was wearing in episode one, then Tarzan's across the island to light the fire in time for the boat to find him.


Even at the end I still felt there was going to be a reveal that Chase was Lundgren's son. The Chase "is the son of some nobody in Star City" has never sat well with me.


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    The mystery cameo of a character in this episode was in the flashbacks as Oliver is on the fishing boat using a phone to call his mother, Moira to tell her he is alive.



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    Roy Harper does not appear at all.



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    Slade Wilson is given data by Oliver on his son, Joe. Slade states the Murkuru is out of his system and he is mentally stable again. Boomerang was apparently working with Oliver but sided with Chase due to a better offer.


Loved seeing him return. That actor brings a certain weight of seriousness that the show needs. The first season was at it's best when Slade would slow down and help Ollie figure out how to survive. I'm also glad that they restored him to sanity - when he was a likable character. Although killing your mom isn't the kind of thing you forget quickly....


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    Also be afraid, be very afraid......another major hint that OLICITY shall return!!!!! ;\)



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    So on the island at the time of the big kaboom we have:



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    Team Arrow
    Nyssa
    Slade Wilson
    Lance (though I think of him as part of Team Arrow)



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    Talia (possibly dead already)
    Any surviving joe ninja warriors
    Black Siren aka evil Laurel (though they have stated she is to appear in Season 6)
    Boomerang
    Malcolm Merlyn



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    Who will live? Who knows? Only the writers and the contract holders shall know for sure.



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    So Season 5 ends in to me a slightly better end then Season 4. Season 5 started good, then dropped then perked up in time for the finale.



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    Also no appearance of Bruce Wayne.



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    Predictions for who doesn't get off the island:



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    1. I think I remember reading that the actor that plays Merlyn has stated he will not be in Season 6. Though the landmine explosion was off camera, he could have been killed or badly wounded and didn't escape before the island exploded, so I predict Malcolm is dead.



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    2. Black Siren was already planned for next season.



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    3. The Team Arrow member that betrayed them for Chase, I predict is dead.

It will be satisfying to see Evelyn's corpse show up in the first episode of next season. Which means she was a well constructed villain.


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    4. Talia was left unconscious and hurt after the fight with Nyssa. Likely killed in the explosions.



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    5. Slade Wilson: I want him back as a recurring friend/enemy, the poison is no longer in him and he had some sage advice for Oliver in this episode, plus there is the fact that he killed Oliver's mother.


Agreed!


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    6. Nyssa: I want her dead because I am tired of the League of Shadows and that marriage she has to Oliver. End it already.


Sorry I just can't see enough of that actress. Too gorgeous not to return.


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    7. Wild Dog: not a huge fan of this quasi-Punisher and the plot about getting his kid back is wearing thin. Also if he did get custody he'd have to quit being a vigilante.



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    8. Mr. Terrific: he's funny and a good technician. I suspect that for other reasons he will live.



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    9. Diggle: too good a character to kill off.



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    10. Felicity: they have been teasing the return of Olicity. It would be kind of cruel to the fans to kill her off and end it.



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    11. Black Canary: she was just introduced this past season, seems a shame to kill her off.


The Canary on Canary "cry off" was a nice touch.


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    Also the island should be pretty devastated and thus no need to return to it in the future and this season appears to have wrapped up the island flash backs which is a good thing.


I'm really going to groan if the flashbacks next season are to events that happened in the first year Ollie returned to Star City, that change what we know about the first season.

All in all a very good season ending episode. I grade it as an A (I would have given it an A+ but the crazy amount of C-4 cost it just a little bit.)

KATS



I agree wholeheartedly that mining the entire island with C4 was ludicrous and definitely qualifies as OVERKILL.

However I also look at it as the destruction or at least serious defoliation of the island and rendering it unusable by Oliver as a secret retreat like he has done. It is time the island was reduced to a bad memory in his life and not a makeshift version of the Fortress of Solitude.

Chase being the son of one of Oliver's early victims....well there is some poetic justice with that but yeah they could have done better.

Also in terms of screwed up logistics:

1. HOW is Oliver able to afford his arrows and the equipment in the Arrow bunker? As I recall his trust fund is gone or at least majorly depleted, he does not own the company any longer, and I recall no episode where his mother's will was read and any money being left to him by her. Also what of his home, the Queen mansion? Was it sold after Moira's death? Is it shut down and locked up gathering dust? Is Oliver loathe to live there due to all the memories?


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