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Alexandre Juliao

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Subj: Re: Why the return of Stark doesn't excite me
Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 at 06:10:39 pm EDT (Viewed 209 times)
Reply Subj: Why the return of Stark doesn't excite me
Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 at 02:29:11 pm EDT (Viewed 244 times)

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In my opinion, the main problem this book has had has been that it is dry, which is to say lacking in Eros and Thanatos and the relatable emotional impact that brings.

A book staring Stark should, in my opinion, be basically a blend of Doctor Who and Sherlock. Doctor Who blends the power-fantasy of a scientific super-genius with the relatable angst of grieving for lost loved ones and the many people he failed to save. Sherlock has the power-fantasy of being a super-genius blended with a weirdo's struggle to protect the few people capable of loving him.

A book staring Riri should, in my opinion, be basically a blend of Doctor Who and Buffy. A scientific super-genius who mourns the many people she's failed to save, while dealing with teenage issues like her first boyfriend or girlfriend, and how her general weirdness makes getting one of those problematic.

I do believe that either character could work if that is how they were written. Power fantasy, eros, and thanatos in properly engineered combination creating an effective entertainment product.

Instead, both characters have largely lacked that proper engineering. They tried to make Stark this really dry story of a politician/businessman responsible for all of the world's large-scale boring political problems. And they made Riri so fluffy that her book makes "Moana" look like "The Seventh Seal".

Both equally dry, just for different reasons. I've seen nothing that suggests that this will change. Dryness is the problem, not melanin content or plumbing. Changing melanin content and plumbing didn't fix the book last time, and switching melanin content and plumbing back won't fix it now.

Tony Stark will never come back, even if he reappears in the book.

Because he's dead.

Tony died alongside Captain America, crushed when a S.H.I.E.L.D's Helicarrier crashed on them in Avengers Vol 5 # 44.

The Tony Stark we've seen since then, is just a counterpart to some alternate reality that Franklin Richards picked up on Battleworld and implanted the original Tony's memories on him.

The Iron Man haters at MARVEL won. They completely destroyed the character and made him die as a villain.

I knew all of this since 2015 of course, but only today, I realized that that situation is irreversible.

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