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Subj: Mjolnir
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 at 08:12:31 am EDT (Viewed 87 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Sorry Guys, But Marvel Is NOT Ruining Your Favorite Characters, Or Any Characters.
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 at 11:22:33 pm EDT (Viewed 105 times)



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    What has been done to THOR is just bad, pure and simple. he now believes he is unworthy and always was unworthy, thus he IS unworthy in the eyes of Mjolnir.


Oh wow! Marvel finally explained (after decades) what "worthiness" is and I missed it? Curses.

So you're worthy if you believe you are? Could Stan and Jack's Von Doom have wielded Mjolnir under these rules? He certainly considered himself worthy!


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    Plus the hammer is now retconned as containing some type of "cosmic storm"????


That doesn't bother me. The hammer back in the 60s had a variety of abilities we don't see any more. It's a vessel of Odin's power. It ought to do a lot more than just hit or blast stuff.


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    So THOR goes berzerk in his first fight without the hammer, gets literally DISARMED and has an uru prosthetic arm now.



(SPOILERS - Marvel Legacy #1)

(SPOILERS - Marvel Legacy #1)

(SPOILERS - Marvel Legacy #1)


Oh - so that's why Thor made mention of some sort of "Uru beat down" (paraphase) he was about to lay down on some Asgardian bar patrons. I wondered about that.


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    Plus THOR instead of truly trying to get the hammer back has basically given up and wants to be drunk all the time.



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    Ugh.


Yes - that part is ridiculous. But Stan and Jack's Thor has been dead since Jurgens killed him and JMS brought back an impostor. Hey! Maybe Marvel will actually acknowledge that this unworthy version truly is an impostor! Fat chance, I know, but I can dream...


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    They should have had THOR disappear and be presumed dead, even ODIN and Heimdall cannot locate him. Jane still claims the hammer and becomes fake-THOR/She-Ra for the duration.


Presumably the unworthy/worthy dichotomy was to make us think the gig could be permanent. Of course none of us thought that or ever will think that because we know the status quo is mostly God.

The foregoing notwithstanding, I am perfectly OK with Jane remaining an Asgardian warrior woman after the Odinson takes back his hammer. I personally think the whole plot line was crazily implausible because Stan and Jack depicted Jane as a timid little rabbit, but all of that is water under the bridge now. This unexpected Jane with her nigh-Shakespearean speech pattern and her predilection for smiting is a cool character and I'd like to see her stick around. I just don't ever again want to see her have a fair fight against Odin.









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