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Subj: Re: A-listers and others (and thanks to Black Guardian!)
Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 at 07:42:27 pm EDT (Viewed 65 times)
Reply Subj: Re: A-listers and others (and thanks to Black Guardian!)
Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 at 02:22:56 pm EDT (Viewed 70 times)



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      So now I'm wondering why the Champions were cancelled.


    Here I would guess it really had something to do with disappointing sales. Depending on whether you consider titles like The Defenders "A" or "B-list" during the prime of the title in the 1970s, the Champions never were more than a B or C-list team; the book never made the jump from every other month to monthly (and even a niche title like The Eternals was published monthly in the 1970s).


Bi-monthly publishing has always seemed self-defeating to me. It's much harder to get readers emotionally invested in something that won't come around again for two months. But yeah, I guess the Champions were B-list at best. I blame Ghost Rider. (At the time, Johnny Blaze was keeping his human mind and speech patterns while skull-faced, which made him far less cool to read about.)


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    Oh yes, I just looked back, there was this continuous editorial infighting, especially on the Spider-Man books which led to the sacking of Tom DeFalco as head writer and the fumbling of the resolution of the Hobgoblin mystery the following year, and ultimately to the sacking of Jim Shooter as E-in-C (might have been a different story if his pet project, the New Universe, had not been such a failure).


Jim Shooter is an enigma to me.


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    Well, the Beast and Wonder Man are apparently joining the cast of Uncanny Avengers, so maybe you should give that title a try.


I'll at least thumb through it at the shop.


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    And pick up the last few TPBs (Duggan's run). Rogue and Johnny really have a nice interplay; he had been romantically involved with Rogue in one of those so-and-so-many-months gap you get from time to time (i.e. before he became involved with his ex-girlfriend's older sister), and now they're close friends. Speaking of Medusa: How much older than Crystal is she supposed to be?


Back in the day, it seemed to me that Crystal was Johnny's age and Medusa was Reed's age. Now throw Rogue into the mix. Was she an item with Johnny when she was supposed to be a teen-ager? Johnny just seems to date anything that moves. Bea Arthur might be next. Followed by Ms. Marvel on the day she turns 18. Followed by Carol Danvers. Followed by a resurrected Agatha Harkness. Followed by Squirrel Girl. Followed by Aunt May. Followed by Mystique.

And then Marvel will reveal that Johnny swings both ways and we'll have everyone's dream couple, fire and ice, you guessed it, Johnny and Bobby, which will melt the interwebs.






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