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MYG




I really haven't been this excited about the Avengers in a long time, but there are some things coming down the pike (Mighty Avengers and the "new" New Avengers line-up)that I just wait for!!! There is so much characterization (post Civil War) that is going to have such an impact on this team in particular, that It's going to be near impossible for the "two teams" to co-exist without getting into brawls. Let us not forget that this is in addition to the pre-Civil War crap going on between Hank Pym, Jan and Clint...not to mention Wanda. I don't know what's going on with Prieto right now, or how whatever it is pans out, but he'll probably want to punch out Clint when he finds out he "had" his sister Wanda! I think that the Avengers franchise is going to blow the X-Men away!!! We are beginning to have all of these 70's and 80's Marvel icons finally sign up with the Avengers. Soon, much like DC's JLA, there won't be many heroes who haven't served on the team. 2007 is going to be a great ride, and I can't wait.

AVENGERS ASSEMBLE!!!


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Super Rubbery Bung




> I really haven't been this excited about the Avengers in a long time, but there are some things coming down the pike (Mighty Avengers and the "new" New Avengers line-up)that I just wait for!!! There is so much characterization (post Civil War) that is going to have such an impact on this team in particular, that It's going to be near impossible for the "two teams" to co-exist without getting into brawls. Let us not forget that this is in addition to the pre-Civil War crap going on between Hank Pym, Jan and Clint...not to mention Wanda. I don't know what's going on with Prieto right now, or how whatever it is pans out, but he'll probably want to punch out Clint when he finds out he "had" his sister Wanda! I think that the Avengers franchise is going to blow the X-Men away!!! We are beginning to have all of these 70's and 80's Marvel icons finally sign up with the Avengers. Soon, much like DC's JLA, there won't be many heroes who haven't served on the team. 2007 is going to be a great ride, and I can't wait.
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Well, the JLA has always been the "best of the best" kind of team, we'll see if the Avengers can match the iconography of that team.

> AVENGERS ASSEMBLE!!!


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JoeBrown




> There is so much characterization (post Civil War) that is going to have such an impact
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Sigh... Sorry for being a spoilsport but I'm tired of this term being thrown around so much as if before Bendis and Co. there was no characterization. I think people are fooled by talking heads and no action and equate that with "characterization".

Anyways, glad to see at least some people are excited about what the future brings the Earth's Mightiest Heroes.


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dave




> > There is so much characterization (post Civil War) that is going to have such an impact
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> Sigh... Sorry for being a spoilsport but I'm tired of this term being thrown around so much as if before Bendis and Co. there was no characterization. I think people are fooled by talking heads and no action and equate that with "characterization".
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Well it is because usually the "talking heads" are also talking about themselves. For more than half of the MU's history you could replace any one charcter with dialogue from any other character and it would read the same. Give Peter Parker cosmic powers and he's Quasar. Give Captain America a cape and he's Superman. People complain because they can't run into a villain and defeat him on a slugout all in one issue. How do you write a story with distinct characters when there are 8 of them and still do it in one issue? The answer is you can't. Personally, I like seeing a more realistic betrayal of what being a suepr hero would be like. For example, in the Avengers annual it shows the heroes sitting around and socializing at the tower, which surely would happen. It only takes a couple panels but you see there is a personal exchange that would pull them closer together. In the old books, you just had to assume this or the characters had to be in love.


I like the way things are.

> Anyways, glad to see at least some people are excited about what the future brings the Earth's Mightiest Heroes.

I'm pretty pumped.


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Ironguy




>snip.
> Give Peter Parker cosmic powers and he's Quasar. Give Captain America a cape and he's Superman. People complain because they can't run into a villain and defeat him on a slugout all in one issue.

On the flip side...if Cap, Reed, and Ironman had new names and looks they wouldn't be remotely identifiable as Cap, Reed, and Ironman based on the words they speak and their actions during CW imo.

Maybe CW is showing more characterization but so what if it misses the mark by a wide margin?
There are too many "WTF? moments" to believe.


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dave




> >snip.
> > Give Peter Parker cosmic powers and he's Quasar. Give Captain America a cape and he's Superman. People complain because they can't run into a villain and defeat him on a slugout all in one issue.
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> On the flip side...if Cap, Reed, and Ironman had new names and looks they wouldn't be remotely identifiable as Cap, Reed, and Ironman based on the words they speak and their actions during CW imo.
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> Maybe CW is showing more characterization but so what if it misses the mark by a wide margin?
> There are too many "WTF? moments" to believe.

Sorry, I wasn't very clear. I was really talking about New Avengers versus class 70s era. I wasn't meaning Civil War, which I think most would say isn't exactly dead on in how we would expect them to react.

While I can argue Reed being pre-reg based on his probability charts telling him it would save lives, the Clor thing was a bit much. I also don't see Tony using villains as allies either. And just because a guy takes antidepressants doesn't mean he's "drugged up" or losing his mind. It's very disrespectful to those who do. As for the anti-reg people, well I think it seems exhaggerated. Why would Cap be willing to fight to the death for something before he even gave it time to go before the courts?


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