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Sparky Genocide




Hey, is it just me or is it that the New Avengers have the odds against them now? I mean, they're on the run and it appears that every other Marvel super-hero, including some of those who were in Cap's group during the Civil War, have joined the registration. It looks like the New Avengers are outnumbered? But then again, I don't know if Matt Murdock/Daredevil or Moon Knight signed in or not. Did I miss anybody? Because the Initiative has too many guys, not to mention many C-List heroes.
Another thing- In Initiative #2, Beast was aiding the registration. Last I checked, the X-Men (minus Wolverine) were adamant about staying neutral because the act exempted mutants. However, the war is over and Tony's side won. So I suppose Beast is there because the X-Men still want to be in the government's good graces. If that's the case, then there may be some confliction with the Beast and/or the X-Men with Wolverince considering he's on the run with the New Avengers.
I hope the New Avengers find out more about their theories from the last issue because the odds don't appear to be in their favor. Am I wrong?


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Sandman




> Hey, is it just me or is it that the New Avengers have the odds against them now? I mean, they're on the run and it appears that every other Marvel super-hero, including some of those who were in Cap's group during the Civil War, have joined the registration. It looks like the New Avengers are outnumbered? But then again, I don't know if Matt Murdock/Daredevil or Moon Knight signed in or not. Did I miss anybody? Because the Initiative has too many guys, not to mention many C-List heroes.

Daredevil is on the run, while Moon Knight, for some reason, hasn't yet been sought after by the SHRA.

> Another thing- In Initiative #2, Beast was aiding the registration. Last I checked, the X-Men (minus Wolverine) were adamant about staying neutral because the act exempted mutants. However, the war is over and Tony's side won. So I suppose Beast is there because the X-Men still want to be in the government's good graces.

More like as a favor to Justice to help Trauma. It probably has nothing to do with SHRA since Justice seems more concern about the trainees welfare, while the rest seem to see them as weapons after that Hyra incident.

>If that's the case, then there may be some confliction with the Beast and/or the X-Men with Wolverince considering he's on the run with the New Avengers.

I'm sure that Emma believes that Wolverine should be fired like Bishop, but because of the difference, like Wolverine trying to find out the truth behind the Stamford incident, some X-Men may support him in some ways, but not totally agree.

> I hope the New Avengers find out more about their theories from the last issue because the odds don't appear to be in their favor. Am I wrong?

No, but I'm confused about the Elektra part. I thought she took over the Hand to keep them at bay and Wolverine knew of this. The conspiracy thing started to get confusing at the end of the issue when Cage started to make no sense when talking to Elektra, while at Doctor Strange's plasce it looked like it was about to lead somewhere.


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Sparky Genocide






Actually, I did some quick research. Moon Knight was one of the many heroes on the cover of Initiative #1. It may not be official, I don't know what's going on since he hasn't been approached in his series.



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Blargh




> Hey, is it just me or is it that the New Avengers have the odds against them now? I mean, they're on the run and it appears that every other Marvel super-hero, including some of those who were in Cap's group during the Civil War, have joined the registration. It looks like the New Avengers are outnumbered? But then again, I don't know if Matt Murdock/Daredevil or Moon Knight signed in or not. Did I miss anybody? Because the Initiative has too many guys, not to mention many C-List heroes.


Joe Q mentioned in a recent Joe Fridays that DD has an unwritten agreenment with Stark that, as long as he stays in Hell's Kitchen, he'll be left alone. Also remember, in CW Files one shot, Tony admits he isn't 100% sure on DD's real ID, even though he thinks its Murdock.

However, this hasn't actually been addressed in any issue of DD or anything at all. So this could change.

And while the NA are outnumbered, the Initiative isn't spending all it's time looking for them. They have other threats to attend to.

> Another thing- In Initiative #2, Beast was aiding the registration. Last I checked, the X-Men (minus Wolverine) were adamant about staying neutral because the act exempted mutants. However, the war is over and Tony's side won. So I suppose Beast is there because the X-Men still want to be in the government's good graces. If that's the case, then there may be some confliction with the Beast and/or the X-Men with Wolverince considering he's on the run with the New Avengers.


The act didn't exempt mutants. She-Hulk points out, in the Daily Bugle one shot, that it includes mutants and treats them just like any other super power. However, since the government already knew the mutants' identities, they were registered by default.

Beast mentions in an issue of Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man that he doesn't necessarily agree with the neutrality of the X-Men, but is going along with it anyway, despite helping out Spidey in that issue.

> I hope the New Avengers find out more about their theories from the last issue because the odds don't appear to be in their favor. Am I wrong?


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Legacy




> Your guess is as good as mine.


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Maximum Man




> Hey, is it just me or is it that the New Avengers have the odds against them now? I mean, they're on the run and it appears that every other Marvel super-hero, including some of those who were in Cap's group during the Civil War, have joined the registration. It looks like the New Avengers are outnumbered? But then again, I don't know if Matt Murdock/Daredevil or Moon Knight signed in or not. Did I miss anybody? Because the Initiative has too many guys, not to mention many C-List heroes.
> Another thing- In Initiative #2, Beast was aiding the registration. Last I checked, the X-Men (minus Wolverine) were adamant about staying neutral because the act exempted mutants. However, the war is over and Tony's side won. So I suppose Beast is there because the X-Men still want to be in the government's good graces. If that's the case, then there may be some confliction with the Beast and/or the X-Men with Wolverince considering he's on the run with the New Avengers.
> I hope the New Avengers find out more about their theories from the last issue because the odds don't appear to be in their favor. Am I wrong?



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Nick




> > Hey, is it just me or is it that the New Avengers have the odds against them now? I mean, they're on the run and it appears that every other Marvel super-hero, including some of those who were in Cap's group during the Civil War, have joined the registration. It looks like the New Avengers are outnumbered? But then again, I don't know if Matt Murdock/Daredevil or Moon Knight signed in or not. Did I miss anybody? Because the Initiative has too many guys, not to mention many C-List heroes.
>
> Daredevil is on the run, while Moon Knight, for some reason, hasn't yet been sought after by the SHRA.
>
> > Another thing- In Initiative #2, Beast was aiding the registration. Last I checked, the X-Men (minus Wolverine) were adamant about staying neutral because the act exempted mutants. However, the war is over and Tony's side won. So I suppose Beast is there because the X-Men still want to be in the government's good graces.
>
> More like as a favor to Justice to help Trauma. It probably has nothing to do with SHRA since Justice seems more concern about the trainees welfare, while the rest seem to see them as weapons after that Hyra incident.
>
> >If that's the case, then there may be some confliction with the Beast and/or the X-Men with Wolverince considering he's on the run with the New Avengers.
>
> I'm sure that Emma believes that Wolverine should be fired like Bishop, but because of the difference, like Wolverine trying to find out the truth behind the Stamford incident, some X-Men may support him in some ways, but not totally agree.
>
> > I hope the New Avengers find out more about their theories from the last issue because the odds don't appear to be in their favor. Am I wrong?
>
> No, but I'm confused about the Elektra part. I thought she took over the Hand to keep them at bay and Wolverine knew of this. The conspiracy thing started to get confusing at the end of the issue when Cage started to make no sense when talking to Elektra, while at Doctor Strange's plasce it looked like it was about to lead somewhere.


Personally I'm glad to have teams like the New Avengers and the New Warriors who are actually questioning the government not being stupid and registering because if George Bush supports it it has to be evil. Also The X-men are stay neutral because they dont care they had no help from the super hero community when they needed it. So for all the x-men care both sides could kill eachother. Which at this point i wouldnt mind seeing both sides wipe eachother off the map. I mean during civil war I agreed with very few people, the runaways who wanted to be left alone to live their lives, the x-men who were ignored when they needed help so inturn did not want to help the people who left them for dead. Also Namor and Wolverine who wanted to bring Nitro to justice something everyone else seemed to ignore. And finally Punisher you hire villains your evil. So stark hires green goblin stark is evil. Simple as that.


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Super Rubbery Bung




> > Your guess is as good as mine.>

Stark may be watching, but many of Marvel's magic users are on the fence as it is- Dr Strange does not require registration, Brother Voodoo is in fact a Haitian expatriate (who does not support the act but isn't actually actively against it). Moon Knight is the avatar of a particularly vicious Egyptian god- who knows what psycho it might pick should Marc Spector go under?


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Super Rubbery Bung




> > Hey, is it just me or is it that the New Avengers have the odds against them now? I mean, they're on the run and it appears that every other Marvel super-hero, including some of those who were in Cap's group during the Civil War, have joined the registration. It looks like the New Avengers are outnumbered? But then again, I don't know if Matt Murdock/Daredevil or Moon Knight signed in or not. Did I miss anybody? Because the Initiative has too many guys, not to mention many C-List heroes.
>
> Daredevil is on the run, while Moon Knight, for some reason, hasn't yet been sought after by the SHRA.
>
Moonie is pretty good at hiding himself, and Stark knows he operates alone- even Cap wanted him out of the Civil War.

> > Another thing- In Initiative #2, Beast was aiding the registration. Last I checked, the X-Men (minus Wolverine) were adamant about staying neutral because the act exempted mutants. However, the war is over and Tony's side won. So I suppose Beast is there because the X-Men still want to be in the government's good graces.
>
Beast is an ex-Avenger and is the most recognizable face from the X-Men-plus he's Might Avenger Wonder Man's best friend. THe training youth heroes idea smacks of X-Men all over, it's only natural he be asked to lend a hand.

> More like as a favor to Justice to help Trauma. It probably has nothing to do with SHRA since Justice seems more concern about the trainees welfare, while the rest seem to see them as weapons after that Hyra incident.
>
Beast is the oldest of the original X-Men( Iceman, Cyclops, Angel and Jean Grey) and is more and more the senior figure over there, so being in the INitiative is a logical plance for him.

> >If that's the case, then there may be some confliction with the Beast and/or the X-Men with Wolverince considering he's on the run with the New Avengers.
>
Wolverine should and can never be stopped by anyone short of Professor X or Captain America- that's just who he is. Bishop is totally with the registration, so why stop Wolverine from opposing it? He doesn't speak for the X-Men, even if he stuck with them during Cap's last battle.

> I'm sure that Emma believes that Wolverine should be fired like Bishop, but because of the difference, like Wolverine trying to find out the truth behind the Stamford incident, some X-Men may support him in some ways, but not totally agree.
>
Bishop was not fired- he left the X-Men to concentrate on the SHRA and not to implicate them in anything he might have to do. He left amicably, no one fired him.

> > I hope the New Avengers find out more about their theories from the last issue because the odds don't appear to be in their favor. Am I wrong?
>
> No, but I'm confused about the Elektra part. I thought she took over the Hand to keep them at bay and Wolverine knew of this. The conspiracy thing started to get confusing at the end of the issue when Cage started to make no sense when talking to Elektra, while at Doctor Strange's plasce it looked like it was about to lead somewhere.


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Phil




> > Hey, is it just me or is it that the New Avengers have the odds against them now? I mean, they're on the run and it appears that every other Marvel super-hero, including some of those who were in Cap's group during the Civil War, have joined the registration. It looks like the New Avengers are outnumbered? But then again, I don't know if Matt Murdock/Daredevil or Moon Knight signed in or not. Did I miss anybody? Because the Initiative has too many guys, not to mention many C-List heroes.
>
> Daredevil is on the run, while Moon Knight, for some reason, hasn't yet been sought after by the SHRA.
>
> > Another thing- In Initiative #2, Beast was aiding the registration. Last I checked, the X-Men (minus Wolverine) were adamant about staying neutral because the act exempted mutants. However, the war is over and Tony's side won. So I suppose Beast is there because the X-Men still want to be in the government's good graces.
>
> More like as a favor to Justice to help Trauma. It probably has nothing to do with SHRA since Justice seems more concern about the trainees welfare, while the rest seem to see them as weapons after that Hyra incident.
>
> >If that's the case, then there may be some confliction with the Beast and/or the X-Men with Wolverince considering he's on the run with the New Avengers.
>
> I'm sure that Emma believes that Wolverine should be fired like Bishop, but because of the difference, like Wolverine trying to find out the truth behind the Stamford incident, some X-Men may support him in some ways, but not totally agree.
>
> > I hope the New Avengers find out more about their theories from the last issue because the odds don't appear to be in their favor. Am I wrong?
>
> No, but I'm confused about the Elektra part. I thought she took over the Hand to keep them at bay and Wolverine knew of this. The conspiracy thing started to get confusing at the end of the issue when Cage started to make no sense when talking to Elektra, while at Doctor Strange's plasce it looked like it was about to lead somewhere.

I guess part of the question is how many who supported cap would actually turn on the New Avengers now and how many would wish they had made the same stand. They may have simply decided that it was safer to take the pardon, or that the better way was to work within the system, but stil agree in theory that Cap was right.


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Hubert Cumberdale




Personally I'm glad to have teams like the New Avengers and the New Warriors who are actually questioning the government not being stupid and registering because if George Bush supports it it has to be evil.


Youre not serious are you?


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Nick




> Personally I'm glad to have teams like the New Avengers and the New Warriors who are actually questioning the government not being stupid and registering because if George Bush supports it it has to be evil.
>
>
> Youre not serious are you?

About the teams questioning the government yes. Our government is ment to be constantly questioned. As far as Bush being evil no, Cheney is evil Bush is just an idiot. Personally nothing in the bush administration has been forward with the public so its not unrealistic to have suspisions of a siniser motive behind the registration.


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