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CapDANamerica




Let's just say Ronin is Hawkeye...then to not have Hawkeye mourn the loss by actually chatting it up with all the other Avengers is quite sad. Anyone else catch up on this?

He should have taken the mask off and sad.."great speech Falcon... (BTW was this an off panel speech?)


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PDT




> Let's just say Ronin is Hawkeye...then to not have Hawkeye mourn the loss by actually chatting it up with all the other Avengers is quite sad. Anyone else catch up on this?

It's likely that Ed Brubaker simply wasn't aware of Ronin's identity when he wrote the issue.

> He should have taken the mask off and sad.."great speech Falcon... (BTW was this an off panel speech?)

Yes, the funeral was off-panel. I think it's supposed to be shown in Fallen Son #5, though.


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CapDANamerica




I guess Ronin's toast is off panel too. Brubaker had to have known who Ronin is. They knew Captain America was gonna die last year.
> > Let's just say Ronin is Hawkeye...then to not have Hawkeye mourn the loss by actually chatting it up with all the other Avengers is quite sad. Anyone else catch up on this?
>
> It's likely that Ed Brubaker simply wasn't aware of Ronin's identity when he wrote the issue.
>
> > He should have taken the mask off and sad.."great speech Falcon... (BTW was this an off panel speech?)
>
> Yes, the funeral was off-panel. I think it's supposed to be shown in Fallen Son #5, though.


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Blargh




Cap dying is a Marvel Universe big affecting event, launching a mini dedicated to it (Fallen Son) and getting re-actions in books such as New Avengers and even Punisher: War Journal. Hawkeye coming back is pretty much contained within the Avengers titles. So while Brubaker may have known about it, he didn't "have to" know, especially since his run on Cap has pretty much kept Avengers crossovers and major guest appearances to a minimum.

Also, remember, books can get delayed for any number of reason beyond the artist and writer's control. Shipping, pressing, gas prices and any number of reasons. If this issue came out earlier than NA #30, then it would've spoiled it.

Now if these issues were scheduled 2-3 months apart, then that's understandable. But because they were so closely together release wise, it was good that Brubaker didn't have Ronin take off his mask.

> I guess Ronin's toast is off panel too. Brubaker had to have known who Ronin is. They knew Captain America was gonna die last year.


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KW




Also remember that Clint had a whole issue of Fallen Son dedicated to him and his reaction to Cap's death. I don't think it was that big of a deal that he didn't get any dialogue into Cap 26. Maybe they'll touch on his reaction even more so now that we know who he is in NA
> > Let's just say Ronin is Hawkeye...then to not have Hawkeye mourn the loss by actually chatting it up with all the other Avengers is quite sad. Anyone else catch up on this?
>
> It's likely that Ed Brubaker simply wasn't aware of Ronin's identity when he wrote the issue.
>
> > He should have taken the mask off and sad.."great speech Falcon... (BTW was this an off panel speech?)
>
> Yes, the funeral was off-panel. I think it's supposed to be shown in Fallen Son #5, though.


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G$




> Let's just say Ronin is Hawkeye...then to not have Hawkeye mourn the loss by actually chatting it up with all the other Avengers is quite sad. Anyone else catch up on this?
>
> He should have taken the mask off and sad.."great speech Falcon... (BTW was this an off panel speech?)

This also could have been a sceduling issue as well, were maybe this book was supposed to be out prior to the recent Avengers book where it was revealed Clint was Ronin.


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