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Doc Adams




Suppose Jim Hammond, the original Human Torch, managed to survive his apparent demise at the end of the recent Invaders series (he's survived worse than that, and who's to say what really happened when everyone was blinded by the intense light?). What do you think his reaction would be to the whole Camp Hammond setup?

Would he be proud he was considered to be one of the first and finest of a generation of heroes? Would he be honored a training camp for heroes was named for him? Or would he be angered his name was used in association with folks who opposed his old friends Cap and Namor (especially considering what happened to Cap as a result of that opposition)?

For that matter, what would the trainees think of Hammond? Would they accept this artifical man in a way they might not respond to the less-normal appearing Vision or Machine Man? Would they be awed at meeting such a legendary hero? Or would they consider him redundent, a Johnny Storm prototype?

Comments, anyone?

Doc Adams
The Man of Coppertone


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emerick man




> Suppose Jim Hammond, the original Human Torch, managed to survive his apparent demise at the end of the recent Invaders series (he's survived worse than that, and who's to say what really happened when everyone was blinded by the intense light?). What do you think his reaction would be to the whole Camp Hammond setup?
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> Would he be proud he was considered to be one of the first and finest of a generation of heroes? Would he be honored a training camp for heroes was named for him? Or would he be angered his name was used in association with folks who opposed his old friends Cap and Namor (especially considering what happened to Cap as a result of that opposition)?
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> For that matter, what would the trainees think of Hammond? Would they accept this artifical man in a way they might not respond to the less-normal appearing Vision or Machine Man? Would they be awed at meeting such a legendary hero? Or would they consider him redundent, a Johnny Storm prototype?
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> Comments, anyone?
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> Doc Adams
> The Man of Coppertone

Since, as I understand it, he is an A.I. thus subject to computer logic generated thought processes - he would probably work logically as a supporter of the Law he has always honored. It mightve made for an intersting conflict to be against Cap (AND Namor) during the CW.

'Course his morality all these years was 'human', similar to that of the Vision (both incarnations) and could conceivably been anti-SHRA like the YA were.

If he does return in this post-CW period, it would still be interesting to his reaction to Camp Hammond. His reaction would be totally dependent on which way the writers present his algorithms attitudes.

If he does come back as a criminal maybe they'd change the name... Camp Marvel (since Mar-Vell returned suprisingly 'on board').


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Sandman




> Suppose Jim Hammond, the original Human Torch, managed to survive his apparent demise at the end of the recent Invaders series (he's survived worse than that, and who's to say what really happened when everyone was blinded by the intense light?). What do you think his reaction would be to the whole Camp Hammond setup?
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> Would he be proud he was considered to be one of the first and finest of a generation of heroes? Would he be honored a training camp for heroes was named for him? Or would he be angered his name was used in association with folks who opposed his old friends Cap and Namor (especially considering what happened to Cap as a result of that opposition)?

I think if he found out how the trainees were being treated and how the law was being enforced, he would think that they were becoming no better then the villains, as well as nazis, because this would be an enforcing of an idea, then a solution to a problem, where his name is being used to make something seem noble when it's corrupted from the inside. That superhumans are now considered weapons then people with rights and innocent until proven guilty.
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> For that matter, what would the trainees think of Hammond? Would they accept this artifical man in a way they might not respond to the less-normal appearing Vision or Machine Man? Would they be awed at meeting such a legendary hero? Or would they consider him redundent, a Johnny Storm prototype?

They may end up thinking he's part of the reason they feels miserable.
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> Comments, anyone?
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> Doc Adams
> The Man of Coppertone


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Brand Echh




> > Would he be proud he was considered to be one of the first and finest of a generation of heroes? Would he be honored a training camp for heroes was named for him? Or would he be angered his name was used in association with folks who opposed his old friends Cap and Namor (especially considering what happened to Cap as a result of that opposition)?

> I think if he found out how the trainees were being treated and how the law was being enforced, he would think that they were becoming no better then the villains, as well as nazis, because this would be an enforcing of an idea, then a solution to a problem, where his name is being used to make something seem noble when it's corrupted from the inside. That superhumans are now considered weapons then people with rights and innocent until proven guilty.

As much as he hates Nazis, I don't think Hammond would see the Initiative as a Nazi-like organization (although he'd likely not trust Tony). He's a former cop, a former soldier and a proponent of order and accountability. I see him as pro-reg.



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Super Rubbery Bung




> > > Would he be proud he was considered to be one of the first and finest of a generation of heroes? Would he be honored a training camp for heroes was named for him? Or would he be angered his name was used in association with folks who opposed his old friends Cap and Namor (especially considering what happened to Cap as a result of that opposition)?
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> > I think if he found out how the trainees were being treated and how the law was being enforced, he would think that they were becoming no better then the villains, as well as nazis, because this would be an enforcing of an idea, then a solution to a problem, where his name is being used to make something seem noble when it's corrupted from the inside. That superhumans are now considered weapons then people with rights and innocent until proven guilty.
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> As much as he hates Nazis, I don't think Hammond would see the Initiative as a Nazi-like organization (although he'd likely not trust Tony). He's a former cop, a former soldier and a proponent of order and accountability. I see him as pro-reg.
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Hammond would be honored that his contributions as an Invader are being recognized in such a way- the training side of the Initiative and the SHRA deserves such endorsement from an old school hero, and is certainly worth investing in.

He would not agree with things like the Thunderbolts or Cape Killers as they are now, but Camp Hammond is a way to avoid those things. With people like Steel Spider, Moon Knight and the Punisher still on the loose, he might concede that the Bolts and CKs are necessary.


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