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trickshot




Think about it.
The secret invasion allows for any character to be returned whole (perhaps alive from presumed dead) and intact without any baggage from previous storylines. Hank Pym never created Ultron or hit Jan, Skrull Pym did that. The last thing Pietro remembers is being in the Savage Land- he never married Crystal, never went insane or evil about a half dozen times. Pym and Quicksilver could be returned to pristine quality. What an amazing tool to be able to utilize to restore characters to previously unrestorable and unforseeable greatness.
A list of characters who could use a recreation
the aforementioned Quicksilver and Yellowjacket
Scarlet Witch
Hawkeye
Wasp
Vision
Mockingbird
Goliath
Alpha Flight
Ant-Man
Swordsman
Mantis
Moondragon
Cap (of course)
If you were in the planning room at Marvel, what event or character development would you like to see erased.
As you could probably guess, I'd like to see Pym's and Pietro's history unwritten and rewritten.



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dave




If you look at what they just did to Spiderman then you know that Joe and company are all about pushing the reset button on all past events they don't approve of. Methinks this allows them to published hyped, media-grabbing stories like Spiderman's unmasking, Civil War, and Cap's death and still have a way out.


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Dynamite Kid




> Think about it.
> The secret invasion allows for any character to be returned whole (perhaps alive from presumed dead) and intact without any baggage from previous storylines. Hank Pym never created Ultron or hit Jan, Skrull Pym did that. The last thing Pietro remembers is being in the Savage Land- he never married Crystal, never went insane or evil about a half dozen times. Pym and Quicksilver could be returned to pristine quality. What an amazing tool to be able to utilize to restore characters to previously unrestorable and unforseeable greatness.
> A list of characters who could use a recreation
> the aforementioned Quicksilver and Yellowjacket
> Scarlet Witch
> Hawkeye
> Wasp
> Vision
> Mockingbird
> Goliath
> Alpha Flight
> Ant-Man
> Swordsman
> Mantis
> Moondragon
> Cap (of course)
> If you were in the planning room at Marvel, what event or character development would you like to see erased.
> As you could probably guess, I'd like to see Pym's and Pietro's history unwritten and rewritten.
>

At first, I thought "no, this sounds a lot like the whole One More Day fiasco (I admit, I don't read Spider-Man, just the overall vibe I've gotten from the web on this)". After all, wouldn't we all be in the Spidey fans' boat and feeling like the last 20, 30, 40 years of stories were out the window? And then I began to think that maybe it's not such a bad idea. While I don't think it could, or maybe SHOULD, apply to every character, it would fix a lot of problems for some of them. I never really considered how far back this could go. I just assumed that a Skrull Invasion would have occurred fairly recently. But some could really benefit from it. The original Alpha Flight could have been abducted between issues 1 and 12 of Volume 1. All the originals could still be alive! Heck, even Guardian's convoluted death/resurrection/etc might never have happened. Mockingbird could have been grabbed before she and Hawkeye started having problems, thus her return could complicate things as she still loves him, but he thinks she's been dead for years. But I really like the Hank Pym angle. If Hank was snatched prior to making Ultron, he could return and try to pick up his life with a whole different set of baggage. He might've never become Giant Man, or if it occurred a little later, never been Yellowjacket. He would still be in love with Jan (presuming she wasn't skrull-napped too). He'd have to find his way in the world as Giant Man or Goliath, without the whole wife hitting, identity changing mess that he's been made into. Or at least, have him been snatched between his leaving the WCA and returning (unexplainably, remember) as Giant Man agian. After all, as Dr. Pym, he had finally seemed to accept his lot in life and moved on both as a person and a hero (much like Beyond! showed us he could). Wow, there's some real possibilities here...


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trickshot




> > Think about it.
> > The secret invasion allows for any character to be returned whole (perhaps alive from presumed dead) and intact without any baggage from previous storylines. Hank Pym never created Ultron or hit Jan, Skrull Pym did that. The last thing Pietro remembers is being in the Savage Land- he never married Crystal, never went insane or evil about a half dozen times. Pym and Quicksilver could be returned to pristine quality. What an amazing tool to be able to utilize to restore characters to previously unrestorable and unforseeable greatness.
> > A list of characters who could use a recreation
> > the aforementioned Quicksilver and Yellowjacket
> > Scarlet Witch
> > Hawkeye
> > Wasp
> > Vision
> > Mockingbird
> > Goliath
> > Alpha Flight
> > Ant-Man
> > Swordsman
> > Mantis
> > Moondragon
> > Cap (of course)
> > If you were in the planning room at Marvel, what event or character development would you like to see erased.
> > As you could probably guess, I'd like to see Pym's and Pietro's history unwritten and rewritten.
> >
>
> At first, I thought "no, this sounds a lot like the whole One More Day fiasco (I admit, I don't read Spider-Man, just the overall vibe I've gotten from the web on this)". After all, wouldn't we all be in the Spidey fans' boat and feeling like the last 20, 30, 40 years of stories were out the window? And then I began to think that maybe it's not such a bad idea. While I don't think it could, or maybe SHOULD, apply to every character, it would fix a lot of problems for some of them. I never really considered how far back this could go. I just assumed that a Skrull Invasion would have occurred fairly recently. But some could really benefit from it. The original Alpha Flight could have been abducted between issues 1 and 12 of Volume 1. All the originals could still be alive! Heck, even Guardian's convoluted death/resurrection/etc might never have happened. Mockingbird could have been grabbed before she and Hawkeye started having problems, thus her return could complicate things as she still loves him, but he thinks she's been dead for years. But I really like the Hank Pym angle. If Hank was snatched prior to making Ultron, he could return and try to pick up his life with a whole different set of baggage. He might've never become Giant Man, or if it occurred a little later, never been Yellowjacket. He would still be in love with Jan (presuming she wasn't skrull-napped too). He'd have to find his way in the world as Giant Man or Goliath, without the whole wife hitting, identity changing mess that he's been made into. Or at least, have him been snatched between his leaving the WCA and returning (unexplainably, remember) as Giant Man agian. After all, as Dr. Pym, he had finally seemed to accept his lot in life and moved on both as a person and a hero (much like Beyond! showed us he could). Wow, there's some real possibilities here...

Yeah I hate the premise of OMD. In this reality everything did happen, all participants remember everything, nothing is changed. It just was an imposter who did the bad things while the real character was replaced by an evil doppleganger. No re-writing history,only the players have changed.


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Son of Hulk




I kind of hope they don't erase what has been happening to these Avengers and start anew ala OMD. Leave OMD-like plot with Spidey. However, it seems that the SHRA might get repealed after the story arc after Bush is revealed to be a Skrull!

Maybe Tony Stark will become IRON MAN: president of the USA! I believe there was a storyarc or two in Exiles about this one.

The big rumor I heard was that New and Mighty will be recombined for Avengers starting at #504. But that is a rumor I heard from other boards. No evidence to support it, yet.


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emerick man




> Think about it.
> The secret invasion allows for any character to be returned whole (perhaps alive from presumed dead) and intact without any baggage from previous storylines. Hank Pym never created Ultron or hit Jan, Skrull Pym did that. The last thing Pietro remembers is being in the Savage Land- he never married Crystal, never went insane or evil about a half dozen times. Pym and Quicksilver could be returned to pristine quality. What an amazing tool to be able to utilize to restore characters to previously unrestorable and unforseeable greatness.
> A list of characters who could use a recreation
> the aforementioned Quicksilver and Yellowjacket
> Scarlet Witch
> Hawkeye
> Wasp
> Vision
> Mockingbird
> Goliath
> Alpha Flight
> Ant-Man
> Swordsman
> Mantis
> Moondragon
> Cap (of course)
> If you were in the planning room at Marvel, what event or character development would you like to see erased.
> As you could probably guess, I'd like to see Pym's and Pietro's history unwritten and rewritten.
>

Yep
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And it's been foretold ;\)
http://www.comicboards.com/avengers/view.php?rpl=061218124910





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I've thought about it and agree this is a good plot device which I don't think they will take full advantage of.

Quicksilver - I'd have him grabbed during the first Kree Skrull war. Lets face it historically they came home, and he's off getting married to Chrystal within two years. Part of the invasion would have to be to inconvience the FF. They did replace Alicia to drive a wedge in the group.

Hawkeye - is/was my favorite character for ages. Yet I'd rewrite the history where, he also never came home from the original war. Remember it ended with him missing as Goliath. A few issues later he shows up in that blue dress costume with the headband. What were they thinking? I'd blame that on the skrull. The originals are still hooked up to a machine where the sleepers are basically acting in character but glitches do appear. (The Quicksilver model had bad wiring.)



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