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I can't even imagine Thanos being the villian. Wouldnt most of the movie have to be in outer space? And what about Adam Warlock, and Silver Surfer, they would have to be in it, and the Fantastic Four. I just dont know. You think he'll have the infinty gauntlet?


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    I can't even imagine Thanos being the villian. Wouldnt most of the movie have to be in outer space? And what about Adam Warlock, and Silver Surfer, they would have to be in it, and the Fantastic Four. I just dont know. You think he'll have the infinty gauntlet?


The movie wouldn't necessarily have to take place in space. They could do another invasion attack, perhaps this time from a global scale to differentiate it from the first movie.

No reason why Warlock or the Silver Surfer would have to be included. Same for the FF. They can still tell a great story without those characters.

I don't think Thanos will be in the next Avengers movie as the primary villain. Thanos isn't a typical Avengers villain. He's a cosmic character whereas the Avengers are more Earth-bound. There are other options for the Avengers to fight from their own pool of villains, such as the Masters of Evil, the Red Skull, Kang, and Ultron. As a trend, the after credit scenes mostly set up another next Marvel movie and not the sequel. For the after credit scenes, Iron Man 2 set up Thor, Thor set up the Avengers and Captain America, and Captain America set up the Avengers. In this regard, it's possible that Thanos's post credit scene is going to set up another movie, such as Guardians of the Galaxy, something that Marvel has stated they want to do.


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    I can't even imagine Thanos being the villian. Wouldnt most of the movie have to be in outer space? And what about Adam Warlock, and Silver Surfer, they would have to be in it, and the Fantastic Four. I just dont know. You think he'll have the infinty gauntlet?


I am thinking the Infinity Gauntlet is the direction they are likely to go with it. Since it already is in Odin's treasure room and makes a very brief cameo in the Thor movie so I could see Thanos being after it.

Thanos does not require any of those things. Yes, he fought Warlock and Surfer the most but they are more cosmic. I think that Thanos could be wroked in pretty well both on Earth and in space. And I think that is fine. The first movie is basically all on Earth so if they have the final fights on another world I think that would be fine.

I see no problem with it.




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    I can't even imagine Thanos being the villian. Wouldnt most of the movie have to be in outer space? And what about Adam Warlock, and Silver Surfer, they would have to be in it, and the Fantastic Four. I just dont know. You think he'll have the infinty gauntlet?


To me if you're going to do an Avengers movie and use Thanos then it seems obvious that Moondragon would have to make an appearance since she has the strongest connection to him amongst the ranks of the Avengers.

I'm assuming if Thanos is the big bad of the next movie his scenes will be brief and he will be defeated quickly by some Avenger who gets a real power boost. He will have a Darth Vader like number two who does all the heavy lifting while he sits back and is all ominous and manipulative lurking in the shadows and will only show himself at the last half hour of the movie. Seen it a thousand times.




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I too think the film will focus on the Infinity Gauntlet.

I'm Just going to guess as to the course leading up to Avengers 2 (But aren't we all?):

I think the rest of the individual films will have small clips focusing on the Infinity Gems. Thanos will already be in possession of a few, but he wants all of them, hence his arrival on or near Earth (Or in a close by dimension). Each after-movie clip or mini-plot focus will be on securing or losing another gem.

In Avengers 2, Thanos will have all , or almost all, of the the gems and it's up to the Avengers to stop him.

As long as the movie has the awesome scene out of the Infinity Gauntlet of the heroes, including the hulk, all defeated t the feet of Thanos and a defiant Captain America being the last hero standing, getting right in the face of Thanos and telling him he's going to lose, it will be all good!

- Also, I'm thinking that either in Thor 2 or hopefully Avengers 2, Cap picks up Mjolnir and uses it as a weapon!




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    I can't even imagine Thanos being the villian.


I don't think he will be. I expect he'll put in appearance, but my suspicion is that they're slowly building him up to be the villain for Avengers 3.


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    Wouldnt most of the movie have to be in outer space? And what about Adam Warlock, and Silver Surfer, they would have to be in it, and the Fantastic Four. I just dont know. You think he'll have the infinty gauntlet?


Even if Thanos is the villain for the next film, I'm highly skeptical that any of those characters you mention will turn up. Movie rights aside, they can do a Thanos story without them, and they should. Superhero movies tend to go off the rails when they get jammed up with too many characters vying for screen time. Whedon managed to strike a good balance with the number of characters that he had, but only just so. Adding too many more without subtracting would likely result in a busy, unfocused, clusterf**k of a film and damage the franchise. They need to tread carefully.

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    To me if you're going to do an Avengers movie and use Thanos then it seems obvious that Moondragon would have to make an appearance since she has the strongest connection to him amongst the ranks of the Avengers.


No, that would be Starfox.

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    No, that would be Starfox.


God I am ashamed I forgot that.





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Doc Boomstick




I think that if Thanos were to land on Earth and setup shot (think what Daredevil did with the Hand in Shadowland) it could work. Given the lack of any real plan in the first Avengers movie besides "let's run around fighting people in the streets" I suppose a large portion of the movie would be the Avengers trying to fight through defenses and storm the castle. If you wanted something for the lightweights to do, send them after infinity gems. Surely, that would be why Thanos is on Earth, to collect the gems that are hidden there? It would make for a fast paced movie.


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LegsDiamond5

How viable is a GofG movie anyway?



I agree as I can't see Marvel saving Thanos for a movie that may not even happen (Guardians of the Galaxy) and even if it does may not be for another 2 to 3 years at the earliest. You wouldn't want to have a big reveal at the end of your most successful movie only to have the character sit in limbo until a possible GofG movie. It is possible that Thanos would appear in the next Thor movie, maybe not as the main villain but just to keep him active on screen and in the minds of moviegoers. Besides how viable would a GofG movie be anyway? Don't get me wrong as I love them and was very disappointed when the title was canceled a few years ago. However how many successful Sci-Fi themed action movies have there been in the past decade? Obviously it will take a very good writer and director with a specific vision in mind like Whedon to pull it off.


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    I agree as I can't see Marvel saving Thanos for a movie that may not even happen (Guardians of the Galaxy) and even if it does may not be for another 2 to 3 years at the earliest. You wouldn't want to have a big reveal at the end of your most successful movie only to have the character sit in limbo until a possible GofG movie. It is possible that Thanos would appear in the next Thor movie, maybe not as the main villain but just to keep him active on screen and in the minds of moviegoers. Besides how viable would a GofG movie be anyway? Don't get me wrong as I love them and was very disappointed when the title was canceled a few years ago. However how many successful Sci-Fi themed action movies have there been in the past decade? Obviously it will take a very good writer and director with a specific vision in mind like Whedon to pull it off.


Feige has stated that he wants to do something with the cosmic genre at Marvel and has specifically stated that Guardians of the Galaxy was a movie they want to do. Marvel has a surprise film with a release date of May 2014, and two unannounced films are in development.

As for sci-fi theme action movies in the last decade? Let's see we have the MIB franchise, Star Wars, Transformers, Super 8, Avatar, Star Trek, Hancock, War of the Worlds, Signs, Monsters vs Aliens, Cowboys and Aliens, and so on. The Avengesr featured aliens and so will Prometheus.



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Some of those movies were more sucessful due to their stars (Will Smith) Directors (James Cameron) or ground breaking sfx(Avatar) or were sequels or remakes of established franchises (Star Wars, Star Trek). GofG will have to have something going for it like at least one star, or known director which Marvel tends to shy away from due to budgetary concerns. Of course that doesn't ensure success as both Cowboys and Aliens and Super 8 underperformed at the box office and they both had either big name actors (Harrison Ford) or a big director (Spielberg). I'm not saying that GofG can't be successful, just that it will be difficult.


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    Some of those movies were more sucessful due to their stars (Will Smith) Directors (James Cameron) or ground breaking sfx(Avatar) or were sequels or remakes of established franchises (Star Wars, Star Trek). GofG will have to have something going for it like at least one star, or known director which Marvel tends to shy away from due to budgetary concerns. Of course that doesn't ensure success as both Cowboys and Aliens and Super 8 underperformed at the box office and they both had either big name actors (Harrison Ford) or a big director (Spielberg). I'm not saying that GofG can't be successful, just that it will be difficult.


Come on, just admit defeat. \:\) (edit for some reason my smile face isn't showing here).

Saying that a movie is successful due to the actors, directors, special effects or sequels is irrelevant when it comes to these movies. The same can be said about every movie regardless of if it's a comic book movie or not. And even as you point out, just because a movie has a big star or director doesn't mean it's going to succeed.

There's really no reason to believe that GotG would have a tougher time at the book office from what the other Marvel movies experienced. People said Thor wasn't going to succeed because it was fantasy, no big stars, and had a little known director and it did great.


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