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Here are some PageByPage reactions to compare as you read along...

Avengers Vs X-Men #10

-Anticipatory cover. Will she do more than love tap him? Is that split screen with Hope going to mean something big akin to all the online predictions?! This might be entertaining...
-AAAAAAAAAAAAAHA, there u r Uatu
-Good, right to the followup clash
-2.2 miles is a neat detail Will we get other even NEATER story details? (Still kinda curious now big is this dimensional city though)
-Great, Tony knows how and when Hope will be ready from her wax on/off training but not readers.
-A Mussolini reference?! Don't make me laugh indeed, Iron Fist.
-Huh, with Book of the Iron Fist, recent upgrades & mystery about him, and the new PF element of his origin thought Danny would do SOMETHING... nope... not even a Fist like unto a thing of Iron for Shao Lao's sake!
-Probably purposefully chasing her as a leeeeisurely pace.
-Nice calvary moment for IM.
-Dumb. What did Prof think Cap was going to leave the bodies of Magik and Piotr behind?! Was he?! THAT's why Prof won't help the side he wants to win THIS time compared to his excuse at the Illuminati meeting?! Cap shedding a tear?!!!
-Will Kristen Stewart & Robert Pattinson have as evil a stare as Ororo & T'Challa? We will find out their divorce story faster it seems
-PF-Emma still nastier from last issue. Apparently Sam has some cahonas for a story device moment. (Is that Hep?)
-PF-Emma is hypocritically argumentative. Magneto is more strong willed than others. (Hope he didn't expect to stop her if he'd only gotten to his helmet!)
-Terrible behind the scenes fight. What did Tony hit and miss Cyke with? We will never know
-PF-Cyke is terrible at tracking after being impressive finding K'un Lunn last ish.
-Those 3 are late to the party. Clint better have a nuke arrow their. Fair twist on Thing's catch phrase. Thor is only stunned - bet they hope that'll appease the Thoraholics
-Even Handbook dragons don't stay dead. (Though we were recently told this.) Supermysticbreath trumps Mjolnir it seems
-Good for you, Lei 'Chuck Norris' Kung. Kinda sad he shows up the Avengers so bad here
-The same old unconvincing debate of what the PF is for
-Hope doesn't even remember her own powers of mimickry in the heat of the sitch?!
-IM got better surprisingly fast. Too bad the team can't regroup as fast
-Looks like Wanda just lost the odds in her favor she never capitalized on yet.
-Dumb... luck. Chao-Fist the first new cosmic kung fu move in centuries. THAT's what she trained for and didn't even realize? Anti-climactic win
-Uatu opens his eyes
-Huh, it is NOT PF-Cyke's time yet! Oh well, guess that means PF-Emma will fall first
-Dumb. The two factions reunite. THEY DID leave the bodies behind?! Prof didn't even stay behind after all that?! Was Strange in Russia all along (should've been in earlier scene). Who is the bald guy behind all the Avengers (bottom right panel)
-Magneto got better surprisingly fast. Too bad the mutants can't be heroes alongside him by now.

With 2 more issues to go, it felt like a lot more clarity and progress should have happened this issue. Wanted a lot more. Everything about this chapter was wanting. Supposition of the chronological status of the players NOT seen really seeped in while reading and was quite offputting. Only Iron Man and Magneto did were... somewhat competant while everyone else was going thru the unentertaining motions.

And what are your reactions?




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    -PF-Emma still nastier from last issue. Apparently Sam has some cahonas for a story device moment. (Is that Hep?)

Yup, that's Hep. Last seen as wallpaper several issues back.


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    -Terrible behind the scenes fight. What did Tony hit and miss Cyke with? We will never know

I'm pretty sure he just rammed Cyke.


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    -PF-Cyke is terrible at tracking after being impressive finding K'un Lunn last ish.

Always has been. Remember, he couldn't find Rachel during the "Days of Future Present" annuals. \:\)


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    -The same old unconvincing debate of what the PF is for

Nothing unconvincing at all.


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    -Hope doesn't even remember her own powers of mimickry in the heat of the sitch?!

Did Hope forget... or the writers?


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    -Dumb. The two factions reunite. THEY DID leave the bodies behind?! Prof didn't even stay behind after all that?! Was Strange in Russia all along (should've been in earlier scene). Who is the bald guy behind all the Avengers (bottom right panel)

What's really strange is that last issue ended with this same group teleporting into K'un-L'un, just before P-Cyke attacks. Really sloppy continuity.


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    -Magneto got better surprisingly fast. Too bad the mutants can't be heroes alongside him by now.

It didn't look like Magneto was that bad off. Just tired.


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    And what are your reactions?

Meh.

The Infinity version of the comic has more to the story that takes place after the other group arrives through the portal. Tony designs something that Wanda can use to see the future. She looks at Thor, Tony, and Wolverine fighting P-Cyke in different possible futures. In each future, they are defeated by P-Cyke. Hope, however, defeats Cyke.




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hawkeye2099


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Has Hope ever mimicked a non mutant's powers? I'm not sure if she has (I haven't read a lot of her appearances). I thought that was why she was surprised and not because she forgot she could take someone's powers.


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    Has Hope ever mimicked a non mutant's powers? I'm not sure if she has (I haven't read a lot of her appearances). I thought that was why she was surprised and not because she forgot she could take someone's powers.

At this point, her power seems to be limited to mutants, and that's why I mentioned it. Wanda is a mutant.




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hawkeye2099


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But her surprise was at the fact that she duplicated the dragon's power... not Wanda's. That is why I asked. She actually says "Oh my god... I absorbed the dragon. How did I do that?"

The chaos fist (which, I assume, was based off of Wanda's power) was a new manifestation of power and not a simple duplication. As far as I know Wanda has never used such a power (it even states that it is the first use ever). I think it was a Hope using Wanda's power and the dragon's at the same time (as Iron Man thinks he knows how she beat Cylcops and he has been trying to figure out how Wanda, the Iron Fist and the Phoenix are connected).


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Unstable Molecule


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Having never read Iron Fist, I'm finding this whole series a bit mystifying. Was that dragon meant to be a manifestation of Iron Fist's mystical power? If so, has Tony really been stumped ALL THIS TIME in realizing that combining Wanda's and IF's powers (both of which are proven effective against the Phoenix) might be doubly effective against the Phoenix? That sounds as simple as one plus one equals two.




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No, it's not a manifestation of his power. K'un L'un has at least one dragon living in it.




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Come to think of it, they are saying now that the dragon bestows to the Iron Fist the power of the Iron fist, but wasn't the power suppose to be the person focusing all their chi into their fist? Have they retconned it just for this story?


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emerick-man 

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IIRC, he focuses his chi which was infused with the mystical power that drove/was/imbued the dragon of K'un Lunn. So, technically it seems it was Iron Fist that manifested the power of Shao Lao.


http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/shoulaokunlun.htm





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