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emerick-man 
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Subject: Uncanny Avengers #5... Posted Wed Feb 03, 2016 at 05:28:11 pm EST (Viewed 382 times) |
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Uncanny Avengers 005
Another sad installment for Unity Squad - that some of the people call "Avengers" some of the time.
Nice cover but it makes this feel like the "Old X-Home Week" title more and more.
Lame Easter Egg guest list. Clearly the artist/writer implies that all Handbook Supervillains are there. But any inconsistencies (which feels offputtingly standard when Bagalia is involved) can be No-Prized away as them being merely lookalikes. Only Grey Gargoyle is named and he should be - hmmm, remind me what happened to him after Fear Itself? Does anyone care to list the names as they aren't on wikia yet? The most bothersome one is seeing Farouk and Egghead out and about - and alive.
Sidebar: What should be the current Baron Zemo/Red Skull dynamics?
"Honest John"? Do we know this guy from Cap back issues? He snitches in a weak between panels gag. Also, the art was overall good but, boy, on his page (and maybe others) Human Torch looks almost like Flatman.
Sooo, Rogers is back to his old international black ops ways defying U.N. laws as he sees fit.
"BAGEL-IA"? Really? That is the last way it to think to pronounce with inflection.
Lame plot device to keep Cable "on the team". Confusing Stryfe (ugh, Stryfe) priority chronology with Cable dealing with Inhuman opening arc first. Then he goes and does what he wants anyways in spite of Rogue or Rogers orders. First he tries to time-skidaddle in the middle of an op - then he is stuck here and he bails anyways. Horrible character.
Throwaw-A.I. Belle gets 2 panels but Pietro, Synapse, and Voodoo get 0. Yeah, that's NOT right.
Deadpool is not funny here. Deadpool is not supposed to be a hotwire/hacker guy especially when there's action fighting to be done. Deadpool says he will "prep the jet" but they came in a copter, no? Plus, it sounds like coordinating with SHIELD instead of Rogue or Rogers. Bah.
Rogue's comment about Deadpool to be the one to do the brain removal is just NOT right.
Johnny's comment about breaking into a bank being fun is just NOT right.
It embarrassing how QUICKLY, if not easily, the two fell for the holoscam. It's POSSIBLE that Rogue didn't really fall for it based on her look and comeback line but it was still a shoddy black ops execution.
Sigh, we're back to the eternal cliche Rogers/Schmitt yin/yang thing [sarcasm]'cuz it worked so well[/sarcasm] with the previous Unity Squad. Steve's last panel look and planning brought no enticement for next ish. Speaking of which, who is that on the cover?
http://www.comicboards.com/php/show.php?msg=avengers-2016020313461649
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Mr Bojo

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Subject: Re: Uncanny Avengers #5... [Re: emerick-man] Posted Wed Feb 03, 2016 at 05:43:58 pm EST (Viewed 323 times) |
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I actually like this issue and have liked the book itself, as being one of the better ones. Interesting how The Grey Gargoyle dislikes the Skull, I wonder if could be a story where other villains who have the same feeling "join" in the hunt for the Skull. Especially Magneto and could the reformed Victor Von Doom have the same feelings?
But before the whole ending of the Universe, wasn't the Skull in the hands of Doom?
How do you fight a villain who won't fight if he doesn't want you to fight? Clearly the Avengers need a telepath, to find and help defeat Skull, Marvel Girl? Emma Frost? Both? I know Commander Rogers has always been uneasy around telepathic people.
Also wouldn't Rogue feel there is something wrong with Remy? That he isn't acting like himself? What might have been a nice twist if the squad knew it was Skull and was leaving to allowing him to think he fooled them.
Seems the squad has a full sanction order in effect. Definitely see Sabertooth and Emma coming on board.
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The Black Guardian
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Subject: Re: Uncanny Avengers #5... [Re: Mr Bojo] Posted Thu Feb 04, 2016 at 06:55:04 am EST (Viewed 278 times) |
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Quote: I actually like this issue and have liked the book itself, as being one of the better ones. Interesting how The Grey Gargoyle dislikes the Skull, I wonder if could be a story where other villains who have the same feeling "join" in the hunt for the Skull. Especially Magneto and could the reformed Victor Von Doom have the same feelings?
Doom would have similar feelings, regardless.
Quote: But before the whole ending of the Universe, wasn't the Skull in the hands of Doom?
Yes.
Quote: How do you fight a villain who won't fight if he doesn't want you to fight? Clearly the Avengers need a telepath, to find and help defeat Skull, Marvel Girl? Emma Frost? Both? I know Commander Rogers has always been uneasy around telepathic people.
If Spidey can beat down Firelord, Cable and Voodoo could theoretically be enough.
Quote: Also wouldn't Rogue feel there is something wrong with Remy? That he isn't acting like himself? What might have been a nice twist if the squad knew it was Skull and was leaving to allowing him to think he fooled them.
Not if Red Skull didn't want her to.
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emerick man 
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Subject: Re: Uncanny Avengers #5... [Re: The Black Guardian] Posted Thu Feb 04, 2016 at 08:44:31 am EST (Viewed 264 times) |
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Quote: I actually like this issue and have liked the book itself, as being one of the better ones. Interesting how The Grey Gargoyle dislikes the Skull, I wonder if could be a story where other villains who have the same feeling "join" in the hunt for the Skull. Especially Magneto and could the reformed Victor Von Doom have the same feelings?
Doom would have similar feelings, regardless.
Cap's.. argh.. make that Rogers' apparent strategy to keep this Brainhunt on the QT is just another frustrating, if not baffling, leadership decision by the team. And then apparently only letting "reliable, stickaround" Cable in on it so far just was another detracting story element considering what % of the world (99?) would want RS caught.
Siderbar: Hopefully, Sam will have the courtesy of changing his codename once there are 2 Caps running around http://www.comicboards.com/php/show.php?msg=camb-2016012618045666 to avoid increased referencing confusion that's been going on since Steve has been taking Geritol.
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Quote: But before the whole ending of the Universe, wasn't the Skull in the hands of Doom?
Yes.
Oh, THAT'S riiight, you guys. Forget about Grey Gargoyle's minor player, unfootnoted, revolving door chronology this is a serious story element that demands backstory ASAP.
Siderbar: Was there ever and backissue where Molecule Man and Red Skull interacted?
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Quote: How do you fight a villain who won't fight if he doesn't want you to fight? Clearly the Avengers need a telepath, to find and help defeat Skull, Marvel Girl? Emma Frost? Both? I know Commander Rogers has always been uneasy around telepathic people.
If Spidey can beat down Firelord, Cable and Voodoo could theoretically be enough.
Don't leave it up to Rogue who would take Firelord over a telepath 'cuz they need more flyers.
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Quote: Also wouldn't Rogue feel there is something wrong with Remy? That he isn't acting like himself? What might have been a nice twist if the squad knew it was Skull and was leaving to allowing him to think he fooled them.
Not if Red Skull didn't want her to.
As mention, it still feels 50/50 that Rogue knows Gambit was fake based on her body language (if art was purposefully detailed and she wants to show a shred of superhero value for the Squad. However, IMO, it would have made a much more fantastic story device had she did not mess up and revealed the fact for the ending instead of showing Cap Top Cop brooding over a table.
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Subject: Re: Uncanny Avengers #5... [Re: emerick man] Posted Thu Feb 04, 2016 at 01:46:05 pm EST (Viewed 222 times) |
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Quote: Siderbar: Was there ever and backissue where Molecule Man and Red Skull interacted?
Their relationship went back and forth in the original Secret Wars. Owen was impressed with Doom, so tagged along. Then he felt abandoned by Doom at one point, so attacked him. But Doom opened Owen's powers up to their full potential, and they were cool.
But much later, during the Secret Wars III story, Doom savagely attacked Owen in an attempt to regain his lost memories of the first Secret War.
I don't think they associated between that and Time Runs Out.
Quote: As mention, it still feels 50/50 that Rogue knows Gambit was fake based on her body language (if art was purposefully detailed and she wants to show a shred of superhero value for the Squad. However, IMO, it would have made a much more fantastic story device had she did not mess up and revealed the fact for the ending instead of showing Cap Top Cop brooding over a table.
Considering how Rogue feels about Xavier, I don't think she would have been able to contain herself. Rogue tends to be very reactionary, without much of a poker face. I'd be impressed with her self control if she knew.
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Subject: Re: Uncanny Avengers #5... [Re: emerick-man] Posted Sun Feb 07, 2016 at 02:47:39 am EST (Viewed 7 times) |
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I just finished reading this issue. I thought it was an okay issue but I am curios, when did Sin's face get healed? The last I heard her face was still burnt and resembled the Red Skull's.
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emerick man 
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Subject: Re: Another unnecessary dangler, AFAIK. [Re: Fett] Posted Sun Feb 07, 2016 at 09:55:25 am EST (Viewed 205 times) |
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I just finished reading this issue. I thought it was an okay issue but I am curios, when did Sin's face get healed? The last I heard her face was still burnt and resembled the Red Skull's.
Another unnecessary dangler, AsFarAsIKnow.
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Subject: Re: Uncanny Avengers #5... [Re: Fett] Posted Mon Feb 08, 2016 at 11:40:45 am EST (Viewed 225 times) |
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Maybe she got plastic surgery
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Mr Bojo

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Subject: Re: Uncanny Avengers #5... [Re: aquamariner] Posted Mon Feb 08, 2016 at 09:31:38 pm EST (Viewed 202 times) |
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Its also quite possible that its due to Reed restarting the Marvel universe. "Everything Lives!"
Love to know how Skull escaped, I was just thinking perhaps during the final Incursions?
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