Has anyone else read this issue? The ending blew me away. A seemingly minor character comes to have a major impact on Vision and his family. The actions taken by various members of the family have consequences and the consequences are inter-related. King is writing an amazing series here.

It's the best of the current crop of Marvel books IMO. Instead of getting lost in continuity minutiae or resorting to cynical ploys to drive up sales with Avengers or X-Men guest star appearances it seems to be telling a neat little story about the definition of family via this family of androids.

One thing I love is how even though they're all logical they have differences of opinion that they each support via logic. So far I've found this quirk to be endearing and not annoying.

I'm hoping this book stays away from the events of other books for a long while...I kind of want this book to stay in it's own little bubble and grow without bringing up decades of Avengers history or drama between Wanda and Vision (and I'm also enjoying Wanda's book...I want Vision and Wanda to be far away from each other for a while)

Not really sure what's so mind-blowing. This story has gone exactly where predicted. And it's not a good place. They've basically just ruined another Avenger, just like they did Wanda.

Who got ruined?

Well I certainly didn't predict that it would be the father of a student who was trying to blackmail her.

I don't feel like they've ruined Vision at all. Instead, it is an exploration of his machine nature versus his human nature. I found the look at how his duties as a hero/Avenger are at odds with his being a father to be very interesting. In fact, I can't think of a better exploration of that sort of topic. Luke and Jessica dealt with it a bit but not in this way.

In what way do you feel Vision has been ruined?

Everything done here is just Vision's stupid fault.

Yep, it is a book that I wasn't really interested in but decided to pick up the first issue. I really appreciated the look at family in the latest issue - how Vision's duties as an Avenger were in conflict with his duties as a dad.

I also liked the understated guest appearance of Tony Stark last issue. No big "Guest Starring the Invincible Iron Man" on the front cover. Just a natural appearance of someone who could help.







I'm hoping it will be similar to Fraction's Hawkeye - tell a story that is self contained and isn't impacted by the events and other things happening but where other characters can guest star, as appropriate.

I'd also be very happy if once King is done his story the series comes to an end (just like with Fraction).

Yeah I don't see what the problem is. What horrible thing has he done? He gave sentience to 3 machines and they've made their own choices in life.

Personally I don't understand his reasoning at all.

We've seen Vision ruined so many ways over the years and for some reason he thinks THIS is the story that ruins him. I don't get it.

I concur. I want this run to be kind of self contained. Like I don't need to see Vin and Viv join the Young Avengers or for Virginia to become Marvel's premiere new super villain. I like where the story has went so far without the bigger Marvel universe intruding.

This all started when he killed his emotions. It's be a tragic downward spiral since. Seems clear to me that the family are all just pieces of him.

I've seen nothing in the book that remotely implies Vision is emotionless. His love of his family, his irritation at Virginia's constant questions, his anger at the principal who wanted to suspend Vin, his threatening to kill Tony if Tony stopped him from saving Viv. He isn't on any sort of downward spiral yet.

I don't think he would even attempt creating a family if he was making a point to be emotionless. He's exploring the emotions that come with having a family that is just like him (instead of a humanoid wife and two demon children).

Apparently he's used someone's mind for Virginia's template and the combination of his and Virginia's programming has created Viv and Vin's programming. He's not trying to create a family without emotions...he wants the whole family experience.

The prelude story that led into this series was him telling Wanda he couldn't handle life anymore so he deactivated his emotion chip.

Which flies in the face of what he tells Virginia. If he's logical then why willingly choose an illogical course of action?