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Grey Gargoyle


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Best Marvel movie ever :

- best storyline of all Marvel movies

- 2nd best villain (after Loki) but don't expect Zemo to be like the comics version. Still, one of the most interesting comics villains ever.

- great thriller

- great battle between the superheroes : Gi(Ant)-Man vs Iron Man's team is fun

- Tony Stark's portrayal is very subtle, at the same time antagonist and one of the main protagonists.

- Most main rumors were true about what the Winter Soldier did

- Even if he is a secondary character, they found a clever way to make Black Panther "THE" pivotal character in the movie.

- did I say best storyline. I repeat, best storyline. It is a metaphor about our world and it totally works.

I was more convinced by Tony Stark's point of view than Cap's point of view even if Cap is supposed to be the main protagonist.
It proves how great the story is.


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I really liked the movie. I know Zemo's intentions were to destroy the Avengers, tear them apart, which basically would have been done anyways when Tony found out. He had every reason to be mad at Cap for keeping the information from him.

1. Wouldn't he be angry at S.H.I.E.L.D. itself for knowing and keeping the secret from him?

2. When Tony hacked into S.H.I.E.L.D.S computers in Avengers, wouldn't he have discovered who killed his parents and that Hydra was in S.H.I.E.L.D.?

I thought Zemo should have said since Cap was the leader of the Avengers, the deaths of the innocents, were on him and that is why he is exacting vengeance on him and his Avengers.

Interesting things to come:
1. How many (Secret) Avengers will be in the Black Panther film?

2. How many (Mighty) Avengers will be in Spiderman?

3. Homecoming, one of the words that started up the program in Bucky, is there any coincidence thats Spiderman's title too?

4. Vision mentioning that the Mind Gem controls him, is that in reference to the Crystal that used to be in his head, that he tore out in Avengers #254?

5. Did anyone notice Peter wearing a t-shirt with a pizza shop on it? Could this be a little reference/homage to Spiderman 2, when Toby worked at a Pizza place?

6. Spiderman's reference to the old Star Wars film.

7. Just Spiderman in itself.

8. "I have homework!"

9. Since Tony has to rebuild the Avengers, perhaps a scene where he's looking at a folder of possible replacements, Captain Marvel, Daredevil, Cage, Mockingbird, and some hidden others, then picking up and opening up a folder, revealing Stephen Strange.





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    I really liked the movie. I know Zemo's intentions were to destroy the Avengers, tear them apart, which basically would have been done anyways when Tony found out. He had every reason to be mad at Cap for keeping the information from him.



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    1. Wouldn't he be angry at S.H.I.E.L.D. itself for knowing and keeping the secret from him?


They're a spy agency...you expect them to lie. And did SHIELD really know? Or did Cap figure it out by comparing notes with James?

How could SHIELD know James killed the Starks while controlled by Hydra if SHIELD didn't know there WAS a Hydra?

(maybe they figured it out a couple years ago when Hydra went public and just sat on the info)


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    2. When Tony hacked into S.H.I.E.L.D.S computers in Avengers, wouldn't he have discovered who killed his parents and that Hydra was in S.H.I.E.L.D.?


SHIELD didn't know about Hydra.


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    I thought Zemo should have said since Cap was the leader of the Avengers, the deaths of the innocents, were on him and that is why he is exacting vengeance on him and his Avengers.


I like that he was kind of above blaming Cap for stuff that wasn't his fault. Like he knew Sokovia sucked and that there wasn't much Cap could have done but he still hated him.

There was a great point in Thunderbolts where Helmut accepted that Cap didn't really kill his father but decided he still just wanted to kill him anyways. That's my Helmut always a contradiction. He can still show great personal growth while being a total dick.


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    Interesting things to come:
    1. How many (Secret) Avengers will be in the Black Panther film?


I'm hoping just Cap, Winter Soldier, Falcon and maybe Black Widow.

I don't want everybody. This is really the Black Panther's chance to shine.

(well in a literal sense black as a color doesn't really shine as it absorbs all the light but in a figurative sense it works.


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    2. How many (Mighty) Avengers will be in Spiderman?


Iron Man's been confirmed.


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    3. Homecoming, one of the words that started up the program in Bucky, is there any coincidence thats Spiderman's title too?



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    4. Vision mentioning that the Mind Gem controls him, is that in reference to the Crystal that used to be in his head, that he tore out in Avengers #254?


um...doesn't it refer to mind gem that he got in the last movie...one of the 6 infinity gems.

(me no think outside of box)


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    5. Did anyone notice Peter wearing a t-shirt with a pizza shop on it? Could this be a little reference/homage to Spiderman 2, when Toby worked at a Pizza place?



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    6. Spiderman's reference to the old Star Wars film.


I liked the whole Spidey's an annoying teenager stuff. I guess I don't like Spidey when he's played straight...this was a different take on him (he's young and no one else is) and I dug it.


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    7. Just Spiderman in itself.



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    9. Since Tony has to rebuild the Avengers, perhaps a scene where he's looking at a folder of possible replacements, Captain Marvel, Daredevil, Cage, Mockingbird, and some hidden others, then picking up and opening up a folder, revealing Stephen Strange.


I want a Thunderbolts movie. Helmut's fractured the superhuman community, the Avengers are fugitives and the UN is going to want a team that plays ball to show everyone that their way works.


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and if you're gonna hang your sweeping wide, dismissive opinions out to dry in the breeze, don't be so overly sensitive if it attracts a similar response.
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