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According to Jason's wiki entry he was 18 when he first made his moves in Gotham, making him 19 OYL. This seemed off, so I started going through my back issues of Robin to find indicators of Tim's age. In #116 we see Tim's sixteenth birthday is in July, the summer before his life kinda went to hell. Now OYL, when Tim is looking for the Joker's nuke it's stated that the story is set in August. Meaning that Tim turned seventeen just prior to his year long sabbatical, making him eighteen now.

So, was Jason resurrected as old as he was when he died? Or was he aged as many years as he had been dead? Also, if he's only 19, why is he drawn like an adult, while all the other teen heroes and villains are drawn like their twelve? Editorial mistakes? Or just plain wiki madness?

Any help would be appreciated! \:\-\)


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Seyg-El




> According to Jason's wiki entry he was 18 when he first made his moves in Gotham, making him 19 OYL. This seemed off, so I started going through my back issues of Robin to find indicators of Tim's age. In #116 we see Tim's sixteenth birthday is in July, the summer before his life kinda went to hell. Now OYL, when Tim is looking for the Joker's nuke it's stated that the story is set in August. Meaning that Tim turned seventeen just prior to his year long sabbatical, making him eighteen now.
>
> So, was Jason resurrected as old as he was when he died? Or was he aged as many years as he had been dead? Also, if he's only 19, why is he drawn like an adult, while all the other teen heroes and villains are drawn like their twelve? Editorial mistakes? Or just plain wiki madness?
>
> Any help would be appreciated! \:\-\)


Well, you can find evidence in comics to support any age you want him to be...


Way I look at it, current continuity places Tim at 17. I place Dick and the rest of the original Titans in their mid 20's. I'd place Jason a few years behind Dick, so about 20-22.


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> Well, you can find evidence in comics to support any age you want him to be...
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>
> Way I look at it, current continuity places Tim at 17. I place Dick and the rest of the original Titans in their mid 20's. I'd place Jason a few years behind Dick, so about 20-22.

As you say, thinking about it too much causes migraines and collapses in the space time continuum.

Marv Wolfman has stated that he's writing Dick as being 25, Tim might be 17 (and was seen celebrating his 16th birthday some time before Infinite Crisis) but is being written and drawn as being a younger (He looks about 15 again)

I'd say that Jason was about 20 (he hasn't aged well, with that whole bing dead thing), which leaves 5 years between Dick and Jason and 3 between Jason and Tim (Dick was Robin for a lot longer longer than Jason)


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pgw




> As you say, thinking about it too much causes migraines and collapses in the space time continuum.

Indeed.

> I'd say that Jason was about 20 (he hasn't aged well, with that whole bing dead thing), which leaves 5 years between Dick and Jason and 3 between Jason and Tim (Dick was Robin for a lot longer longer than Jason)

There was a special released to explain what happened to Jason. According to that, he wasn't supposed to have died. It was one of the things that went wrong in the DCU that wasn't supposed to have happened.

So Superboy's punch restored him to life. I think as if he hadn't died. Even if not, I don't think he was dead for very long before being restored. The comic explained that he'd been hiding out. Keeping a low profile. Seeing what Batman was up to, trying to make sense of the world, etc.

Paul

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> There was a special released to explain what happened to Jason.

An Annual, last year.

>According to that, he wasn't supposed to have died. It was one of the things that went wrong in the DCU that wasn't supposed to have happened.

Yup.

> So Superboy's punch restored him to life. I think as if he hadn't died.

Well, sort of. He was restored to the state he would have been in if he hadn't actually died, but had still been beaten and had the bomb go off. Essentially horribly injured. Geographically he was in the place his corpse had been, buried six feet under. And he was age he would have been if he hadn't died.

>Even if not, I don't think he was dead for very long before being restored.

The Annual was a bit vague about that,



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Gernot




Dang, but I'm behind in new comics!

Who did Batman pull from the wreckage of the bomb?

Who did Batman bury back when Jason "died"?

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> Dang, but I'm behind in new comics!
>
> Who did Batman pull from the wreckage of the bomb?
>
> Who did Batman bury back when Jason "died"?

Bruce buried the dead body of Jason Todd, who had been beaten to within an inch of death and then blown up (exacerbated because he bravely , if unsuccessfully, tried to shield his mother from the blast)

What happened was that according to the nature of the universe, this was apparently never MEANT to happen. Jason was intended to survive and his death was a "blip" in spacetime caused by the original Crisis on Infnite Earths and the "darkening" of the DCU, one of the first of many such as the Death of Superman, Batman's back being broken, the death of Blue Beetle etc...

A survivor of the original Crisis, Superboy Prime, in the crystalline dimensional interface that he, the Earth-2 Superman and Lois and Alex Luthor of Earth 3 were stuck in, saw the death and in frustration at the nightmarish events taking place in the DCU started punching the walls of the dimension. Because of where he was, he was in essence, punching the walls of reality itself, and the vibrations rattled backwards and forwards in time, changing things even more.

In Jason's case, Superboy Prime's punch caused the Jason from the "proper" timeline (where he hadn't died) to appear in the location of the Jason from the previous Timeline (who had). In other words, inside his own coffin.

It should be noted that no one was aware of this retcon at first except for Jason, and he was slightly insane at the time.

This particularly absurd method of sorting "story problems" has gained it the rather sarcastic name "Retcon punch", since, by simply punching a wall, Superboy Prime was able to cause history to rewrite itself.


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Gernot




> > Dang, but I'm behind in new comics!
> >
> > Who did Batman pull from the wreckage of the bomb?
> >
> > Who did Batman bury back when Jason "died"?
>
> Bruce buried the dead body of Jason Todd, who had been beaten to within an inch of death and then blown up (exacerbated because he bravely , if unsuccessfully, tried to shield his mother from the blast)
>
> What happened was that according to the nature of the universe, this was apparently never MEANT to happen. Jason was intended to survive and his death was a "blip" in spacetime caused by the original Crisis on Infnite Earths and the "darkening" of the DCU, one of the first of many such as the Death of Superman, Batman's back being broken, the death of Blue Beetle etc...
>
> A survivor of the original Crisis, Superboy Prime, in the crystalline dimensional interface that he, the Earth-2 Superman and Lois and Alex Luthor of Earth 3 were stuck in, saw the death and in frustration at the nightmarish events taking place in the DCU started punching the walls of the dimension. Because of where he was, he was in essence, punching the walls of reality itself, and the vibrations rattled backwards and forwards in time, changing things even more.
>
> In Jason's case, Superboy Prime's punch caused the Jason from the "proper" timeline (where he hadn't died) to appear in the location of the Jason from the previous Timeline (who had). In other words, inside his own coffin.
>
> It should be noted that no one was aware of this retcon at first except for Jason, and he was slightly insane at the time.
>
> This particularly absurd method of sorting "story problems" has gained it the rather sarcastic name "Retcon punch", since, by simply punching a wall, Superboy Prime was able to cause history to rewrite itself.

Geez...

So DC STILL hasn't come up with a non-convoluted reason for Jason't resurrection?

Ten years from now, some new fan's gonna ask, "How did Jason come back to life?" and anyone still here will be able to watch his eyes glaze over!

:D

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