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Niddle




For starters, I'm a "one step away" Batman fan too, so I'm curious about this for two reasons.

Thing is, I'm not sure if the book is out yet, so I'm being careful not to spoil.

Someone posted a panel from the book on the Superman board, showing Batman with someone who seemed to be Black Canary, but she was wearing a Batwoman/Huntress style mask.

Since when?

WAS it Black Canary, or was it someone else?

Batman also makes a comment about Superman being too stupid to even know he can fly.

Is this some kind of flashbaack? Is it an alternate reality? Present continuity seems to suggest young Clark already knew he could fly, so he's sure have known it before Batman first appeared.

Was Batman talking about a costumed Superman, or just Clark Kent, yet to first appear as Superman?

Could someone clear this up for me? I'm curious.


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> For starters, I'm a "one step away" Batman fan too, so I'm curious about this for two reasons.
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> Thing is, I'm not sure if the book is out yet, so I'm being careful not to spoil.
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> Someone posted a panel from the book on the Superman board, showing Batman with someone who seemed to be Black Canary, but she was wearing a Batwoman/Huntress style mask.
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> WAS it Black Canary, or was it someone else?

It was Black Canary, or will be. She did wear a mask for a few issues back in the 1940's but not for long.

> Batman also makes a comment about Superman being too stupid to even know he can fly.
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> Is this some kind of flashbaack? Is it an alternate reality? Present continuity seems to suggest young Clark already knew he could fly, so he's sure have known it before Batman first appeared.

It's the "Frank Miller-Batverse", where the events of "Batman and Robin", "Dark Knight Returns" and "Dark Knight Strikes Again" all happened, but is distinct from the mainstream DCU.

Superman couldn't fly in his earliest appearances, he could leap tall buildings and run very fast, but not fly per se. This is sort of a reference to that.



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Taran'Atar




> Superman couldn't fly in his earliest appearances, he could leap tall buildings and run very fast, but not fly per se. This is sort of a reference to that.

I think this is also a hint that Batman will be much more of a detective than has been implied so far in All Star, just one of the reasons for all the ridiculous Miller-bashing. If Superman doesn't yet know he can fly, how does Batman know?


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> > Superman couldn't fly in his earliest appearances, he could leap tall buildings and run very fast, but not fly per se. This is sort of a reference to that.
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> I think this is also a hint that Batman will be much more of a detective than has been implied so far in All Star, just one of the reasons for all the ridiculous Miller-bashing. If Superman doesn't yet know he can fly, how does Batman know?

The best thing I ever saw about that was in a short lived Innovation comic called "Power Factor", in it a diver is approached by someone who has timed her dives. The laws of gravity mean that a certain dive should take 10.5 seconds to complete (with wind conditions being what they are), yet she consistently makes it last for 10.8 seconds. The only conclusion is that she's manipulating gravity.

It could be that Batman has seen Superman land after jumping over a tall building and was able to realise that his rate of descent was not that of someone in freefall. Superman himself probably didn't realise it, but Batman notices such things.

Yeesh, can't believe I'm coming up with a defence for ASB&R, I feel... soiled! ;->


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Thatguy




> > > Superman couldn't fly in his earliest appearances, he could leap tall buildings and run very fast, but not fly per se. This is sort of a reference to that.
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> > I think this is also a hint that Batman will be much more of a detective than has been implied so far in All Star, just one of the reasons for all the ridiculous Miller-bashing. If Superman doesn't yet know he can fly, how does Batman know?
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> The best thing I ever saw about that was in a short lived Innovation comic called "Power Factor", in it a diver is approached by someone who has timed her dives. The laws of gravity mean that a certain dive should take 10.5 seconds to complete (with wind conditions being what they are), yet she consistently makes it last for 10.8 seconds. The only conclusion is that she's manipulating gravity.
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> It could be that Batman has seen Superman land after jumping over a tall building and was able to realise that his rate of descent was not that of someone in freefall. Superman himself probably didn't realise it, but Batman notices such things.
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> Yeesh, can't believe I'm coming up with a defence for ASB&R, I feel... soiled! ;->

Well, do it again and you get banned for a month! >:-D


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Taran'Atar




Miller is getting WAY too much criticism for ASBAR.


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Taran'Atar




> Miller is getting WAY too much criticism for ASBAR.

Do I have to flee the country now and never look back? Haha you guys have your pitch forks and torches out yet?


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Thatguy




> > Miller is getting WAY too much criticism for ASBAR.
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> Do I have to flee the country now and never look back? Haha you guys have your pitch forks and torches out yet?

My post was a joke, buddy. Try decaf, eh? ;\)


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Taran'Atar




> My post was a joke, buddy. Try decaf, eh? ;\)

...Yeah, I know it was a joke. I didn't think I was going to be banned.











Seriously though, should I be running?


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Thatguy




> > My post was a joke, buddy. Try decaf, eh? ;\)
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> Seriously though, should I be running?

No, no, not at all. See, that just wastes the time of everyone involved. Our hitmen are very capable. I'd suggest just enjoying the time you have left. Less stress that way, you know?


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Blue Beetle




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> Miller is getting WAY too much criticism for ASBAR.


I agree, although I dropped the comic after buying the first six issues to see what Miller was doing.

I honestly don't believe Frank Miller is intentionally being a jerk. I think he's doing exactly what DC is paying him to do, which is to tell the Batman stories he would tell if he could do everything according to his own aesthetic without compromise.

I just don't happen to like his aesthetic. \:\)



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