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Optic Frost




What if after the COIE and Secret Wars II limited series, DC
and Marvel traded these two comicbook properties with each other?

What would happen if Frank Miller produced his Batman run
at Marvel Comics (including the Batman: Year One storyline)?

How would this effect the main Marvel Universe if the Batman cast
exist there?

Who would Batman have in common with in the main MU Earth?

Would Batman join a Marvel hero team (The Avengers, mayhaps)?

And most importantly, would we see a Joker & Dr. Doom team-up
at some point in time or not?

Well, that's that.

If ya'll have any questions, theories or whatever, post me.

Late'.


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katefan




> What if after the COIE and Secret Wars II limited series, DC
> and Marvel traded these two comicbook properties with each other?
>
> What would happen if Frank Miller produced his Batman run
> at Marvel Comics (including the Batman: Year One storyline)?
>
> How would this effect the main Marvel Universe if the Batman cast
> exist there?
>
> Who would Batman have in common with in the main MU Earth?
>
> Would Batman join a Marvel hero team (The Avengers, mayhaps)?
>
> And most importantly, would we see a Joker & Dr. Doom team-up
> at some point in time or not?
>
> Well, that's that.
>
> If ya'll have any questions, theories or whatever, post me.
>
> Late'.

Interesting question. How would Batman fare in the MU? The first problem is, would all of his supporting cast come over? Would Gordon? Because Miller brought up a good point in The Dark Knight; without Gordon's help, Batman could not function in Gotham City.

And another problem is if you look at Batman and Superman, their very cities are like supporting characters. Metropolis and Gotham have their own identities and because they are fictional cities the writers and artists have far more creative liscence.

So I don't think Bats belongs in the MU, with is so very much NYC-centric


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Optic Frost




> Interesting question. How would Batman fare in the MU? The first problem is, would all of his supporting cast come over? Would Gordon? Because Miller brought up a good point in The Dark Knight; without Gordon's help, Batman could not function in Gotham City.\

This scenario does include the supporting cast of the Batman
comics.

And it's likely that the TPTB at Marvel would've had Commissioner
Gordan, Barbara Gordan, Nightwing (Dick Grayson), Robin (Jason Todd),
Alfred Pennyworth, Harvey Dent/Two-Face, Joker, Penguin, Poison Ivy,
Killer Croc, Scarecrow (Johnathan Crane), Hugo Strange and possibly
Matt Hagen, Basil and/or the third Clayface too.

> So I don't think Bats belongs in the MU, with is so very much NYC-centric.

I believe Marvel would've definitely had Gotham City integrated
into the main MU.

Do ya'll think that Jason Todd would've still been Robin today,
get killed/became deceased, retired from crime-fighting or do you
think he would've still been a crime-fighter with a new
costumed idenity and alias?


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katefan




> > Interesting question. How would Batman fare in the MU? The first problem is, would all of his supporting cast come over? Would Gordon? Because Miller brought up a good point in The Dark Knight; without Gordon's help, Batman could not function in Gotham City.\
>
> This scenario does include the supporting cast of the Batman
> comics.
>
> And it's likely that the TPTB at Marvel would've had Commissioner
> Gordan, Barbara Gordan, Nightwing (Dick Grayson), Robin (Jason Todd),
> Alfred Pennyworth, Harvey Dent/Two-Face, Joker, Penguin, Poison Ivy,
> Killer Croc, Scarecrow (Johnathan Crane), Hugo Strange and possibly
> Matt Hagen, Basil and/or the third Clayface too.
>
> > So I don't think Bats belongs in the MU, with is so very much NYC-centric.
>
> I believe Marvel would've definitely had Gotham City integrated
> into the main MU.

I don't see why. If you look at the history of Marvel they have no problem creating fictional countries, but all their American cities are real. They do not have a history of creating fictional cities and for them to make an exception for Batman...

Well, I just don't see it.

And Batman existing without a Gotham just doesn't feel right.

>
> Do ya'll think that Jason Todd would've still been Robin today,
> get killed/became deceased, retired from crime-fighting or do you
> think he would've still been a crime-fighter with a new
> costumed idenity and alias?


What, you mean if the fans did not vote to kill him off twenty or so years ago? I suppose so. But Jim Starlin did such a bang up job at making people despise the little creep that he was voted to be killed off pretty much based on his writing.

And it upsets me that the decision was reversed, that Todd was brought back. Todd should have stayed dead, darn it!


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Optic Frost




> > Do ya'll think that Jason Todd would've still been Robin today,
> > get killed/became deceased, retired from crime-fighting or do you
> > think he would've still been a crime-fighter with a new
> > costumed idenity and alias?
>
>
> What, you mean if the fans did not vote to kill him off twenty or so years ago? I suppose so. But Jim Starlin did such a bang up job at making people despise the little creep that he was voted to be killed off pretty much based on his writing.
>
I meant that if Marvel owned Jason Todd do you think TPTB would
want Jason Todd to be killed or not?

I think that Jason would've get killed off for a while...at least
until Jim Starlin comes works for Marvel.

All though, if Marvel decided to let Todd live (and Starlin left
Marvel sooner or later) then some writer from Marvel (or DC) might
be able to make Jason Todd likeable again.

So much so, that he wouldn't have been replaced by Tim Drake back
in the early 1990's....because Tim wouldn't have exist at all
if Todd havn't died.


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Gernot




Jason Todd, Tim Drake, and Nightwing are DC characters, not Batman characters.

If Batman had gone to Marvel, Dick Grayson would be Robin, and the others would've stayed with DC.

In the early '90's, when DC did a card set, they had Nightwing, but no Batman and Robin.

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little kon-el




> Jason Todd, Tim Drake, and Nightwing are DC characters, not Batman characters.
>
> If Batman had gone to Marvel, Dick Grayson would be Robin, and the others would've stayed with DC.
>
> In the early '90's, when DC did a card set, they had Nightwing, but no Batman and Robin.
>

If it was a straight trade, then you'd have Captain America and Robin, The Boy Wonder, with probably Jason Todd taking the "Rick Jones" role after he gets thawed out.

- l.k.


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