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Brand Echh




Hey guys, I'm working on a big Cap Sunday package for my local paper, interviewed Joe Quesada, got courtesy art and I've even written up an obituary.. but maybe you guys can help me with something (and I'll try and include a link to the message board in the story).

Who are the likely or even possible candidates for replacing Steve Rogers as Captain America and why?

My thoughts:

Josiah X - Currently an unnamed costumed patriotic hero. As an African American and a Muslim, Josiah would bring something new to Captain America.

Patriot - The teenage nephew of Josiah X and grandson of a surviving member of Operation: Rebirth, Elijah Bradley is currently a member of the Young Avengers.

Jack Flag - With super-human strength and durability, Jack Flag served as a one-time partner to Steve Rogers. He was recently dealt a spinal injury while resisting arrest after avoiding Super-Human Registration.

Free Spirit - Cathy Webster has peak human strength and agility. She once fought alongside Steve Rogers and is currently attending college.

Battlestar - A modern-day version of Bucky with super-human strength and durability, Lemar Hoskins resisted Registration following in his idol's footsteps.

The Falcon - Long-time partner to Steve Rogers and a member of the Avengers, Sam Wilson is Marvel's first African-American super-hero and a one-time Captain America.

U.S.Agent - A former villain and a former Captain America, U.S.Agent is currently serving his country by helping the nation's Candian nieghbors rebuild their super-hero community.

Winter Soldier - The original Bucky, recently discovered alive and well, has been covertly helping Steve Rogers and his allies prior to his mentor's death.

Hawkeye - Clint Barton, recently deceased, has resurfaced and has chosen to give up his arrow-slinging super-hero identity. Steve Rogers once asked Barton to take the shield should anything happen to him.

Iron Man - Tony Stark, Steve Roger's longtime friend and recent opponent, currently posseses Roger's shield and has the governmental authority to decide who will be the next Captain America.


.... Any others? Should I remove any from this list?

Who would you want to be Cap?


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Brand Echh




How many times has Steve Rogers either died or been declared dead?

I count four:

Frozen in ice
Infinity Gauntlet
Serum degeneration
Onslaught

Any others?

I included the Infinity Gauntlet because, according to a recent She-Hulk issue, there's now a public record of the event available to the general public in the Marvel Universe.




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seker




> Hey guys, I'm working on a big Cap Sunday package for my local paper, interviewed Joe Quesada, got courtesy art and I've even written up an obituary.. but maybe you guys can help me with something (and I'll try and include a link to the message board in the story).
>
> Who are the likely or even possible candidates for replacing Steve Rogers as Captain America and why?
>
> My thoughts:
>
> Josiah X - Currently an unnamed costumed patriotic hero. As an African American and a Muslim, Josiah would bring something new to Captain America.
>
Considering the current real-world political climate this would seem like it would be a streach that I doubt even Marel is willing to risk.



>
> Winter Soldier - The original Bucky, recently discovered alive and well, has been covertly helping Steve Rogers and his allies prior to his mentor's death.
>
Doubtful since he is working for Russia.

> Iron Man - Tony Stark, Steve Roger's longtime friend and recent opponent, currently posseses Roger's shield and has the governmental authority to decide who will be the next Captain America.
>
Considering all that has happened, I think Stark claming the role might be going to far, but the way Marvel is now days it could happen.

>
> .... Any others? Should I remove any from this list?
>
You forgot the Punisher. He seems to have great respect for Captain America since he took a beating from him and refused to fight back. Plus, he picked up the mask at the end of Civil War.

> Who would you want to be Cap?


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seeker





> I included the Infinity Gauntlet because, according to a recent She-Hulk issue, there's now a public record of the event available to the general public in the Marvel Universe.
>
Is this an offical record or a comic with the comics code stap of approval?


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Brand Echh




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> > I included the Infinity Gauntlet because, according to a recent She-Hulk issue, there's now a public record of the event available to the general public in the Marvel Universe.
> >
> Is this an offical record or a comic with the comics code stap of approval?

According to She-Hulk, Marvel Comics are officially recognized as historical documents and are admisable in court. The Infinity Gauntlet was specifically referenced in a trial, along with someone saying "I thought we weren't supposed to remember that?"



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Brand Echh




> > Winter Soldier - The original Bucky, recently discovered alive and well, has been covertly helping Steve Rogers and his allies prior to his mentor's death.

> Doubtful since he is working for Russia.

I thought he was currently an independent agent working with Fury?

> You forgot the Punisher. He seems to have great respect for Captain America since he took a beating from him and refused to fight back. Plus, he picked up the mask at the end of Civil War.

Right, forgot that one.



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Iron Man Unit 007





> > You forgot the Punisher. He seems to have great respect for Captain America since he took a beating from him and refused to fight back. Plus, he picked up the mask at the end of Civil War.
>
> Right, forgot that one.
>

Regardless of how much respect and awe Punisher has for Cap there is NO way he would suit up. Punisher knows his methods are radically different from Cap, not to mention more TERMINAL to his foes. No way would Frank desecrate the name of Captain America by suiting up as Cap.


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Saotome




> How many times has Steve Rogers either died or been declared dead?
>
> I count four:
>
> Frozen in ice
> Infinity Gauntlet
> Serum degeneration
> Onslaught
>
> Any others?
>
> I included the Infinity Gauntlet because, according to a recent She-Hulk issue, there's now a public record of the event available to the general public in the Marvel Universe.
>
>




Cap was shot to death by HYDRA in front of witnesses who saw him get shot-in Cap v1 #111. Had a big funeral where his friends/heroes attended in Cap v1 #113.-note(They never found Cap's body in the river and as he re-appeared later on.)

Punisher killed Captain America at the Lincoln memorial, Frank used a sniper rifle. Had a big funeral where people talked about his great importance. Punisher and Captain America Blood and Glory 1.-note(Cap was hurt badly but survived and decided to trick everyone in thinking Steve Rogers is dead so no one besides a few Shield personal know his Identity under the mask)

Again Cap died when his body died of the virus that is the SSS. Had a big funeral where people talked about his great importance-Cap vol 1 #443-(Note before he died troops stole his body and put it under Ice and cured Captain America)

Another time in a big explosion blown up by a collection of Red Skull followers. Big funeral as well in Cap vol 3 #50-(Note never explained how he survived)

Again Cap was shot in the head by a random thug. The Doc pronounced Cap dead, immediately after being pronounced Cap got up and healed in Captain America and the Falcon #13.


In the IG incident a lot of characters died as well besides Cap which is not a stand alone death like the ones above.

Also in a Avengers vol 1 #177 I believe Korvac killed Captain America.

In Thor v2#73 King Thor kills Captain America along with Hulk/Thing/Dr.Strange again not a big stand-alone death.

Also not sure, but I think Cap died in Infinity War when the Earth was destroyed by the Sun going super-nova along with everyone else IIRC???????


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Brand Echh





> Another time in a big explosion blown up by a collection of Red Skull followers. Big funeral as well in Cap vol 3 #50-(Note never explained how he survived)

Huh.. missed that one...

> Again Cap was shot in the head by a random thug. The Doc pronounced Cap dead, immediately after being pronounced Cap got up and healed in Captain America and the Falcon #13.

Wow! Good catch, and hauntingly ironic! Image attatched (with thanks to Mile High Comics)...


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kdx125




... Aleksander Lukin.

Well, maybe not, but it would be pretty funny if Cap ended up sharing Lukin's body too. Say if Arnim Zola was trying to get the Red Skull's mind transfer technology up and running again, and that technology was Cosmic Cube based and still locked onto Cap's genetic structure from the Skull's clone days, and the Red Skull's previous Cube-powered jump into Lukin's body left a trail ... Instead of an angel and a devil hovering over either shoulder, Lukin could have Captain America and the Red Skull.

But seriously, Marvel have hinted that in Fallen Son, Tony Stark would be choosing the new Cap. So the question we should be asking ourselves is, What Would Iron Man Do? Two options that I can see:

1) Pick someone unquestionably loyal to him, in which case James Rhodes gets the tip (Captain War Machine, anyone?).

2) Offer the role to a high profile anti-Reg holdout to get them on his side. Number one on that list is Luke Cage, but I don't see him (or any other member of the radicalized underground) letting himself be bribed like that.

Probably the best Tony will be able to manage is to bring one of the neutrals completely on board. The biggest group of neutrals is of course the X-men, and as an added bonus, having a mutant Cap would make a huge civil rights statement. Cyclops is well respected both within the mutant community and without, has recently lost his powers (but not his X-gene), and given his knack for spatial geometry, he could really sling that shield ...




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Chrysalis




> Hey guys, I'm working on a big Cap Sunday package for my local paper, interviewed Joe Quesada, got courtesy art and I've even written up an obituary.. but maybe you guys can help me with something (and I'll try and include a link to the message board in the story).
>
> Who are the likely or even possible candidates for replacing Steve Rogers as Captain America and why?
>
> My thoughts:
>
> Josiah X - Currently an unnamed costumed patriotic hero. As an African American and a Muslim, Josiah would bring something new to Captain America.
>
> Patriot - The teenage nephew of Josiah X and grandson of a surviving member of Operation: Rebirth, Elijah Bradley is currently a member of the Young Avengers.
>
> Jack Flag - With super-human strength and durability, Jack Flag served as a one-time partner to Steve Rogers. He was recently dealt a spinal injury while resisting arrest after avoiding Super-Human Registration.
>
> Free Spirit - Cathy Webster has peak human strength and agility. She once fought alongside Steve Rogers and is currently attending college.
>
> Battlestar - A modern-day version of Bucky with super-human strength and durability, Lemar Hoskins resisted Registration following in his idol's footsteps.
>
> The Falcon - Long-time partner to Steve Rogers and a member of the Avengers, Sam Wilson is Marvel's first African-American super-hero and a one-time Captain America.
>
> U.S.Agent - A former villain and a former Captain America, U.S.Agent is currently serving his country by helping the nation's Candian nieghbors rebuild their super-hero community.
>
> Winter Soldier - The original Bucky, recently discovered alive and well, has been covertly helping Steve Rogers and his allies prior to his mentor's death.
>
> Hawkeye - Clint Barton, recently deceased, has resurfaced and has chosen to give up his arrow-slinging super-hero identity. Steve Rogers once asked Barton to take the shield should anything happen to him.
>
> Iron Man - Tony Stark, Steve Roger's longtime friend and recent opponent, currently posseses Roger's shield and has the governmental authority to decide who will be the next Captain America.
>
>
> .... Any others? Should I remove any from this list?
>
> Who would you want to be Cap?

I could see Zemo taking up Cap's shield. Ok, I'm a big T-Bolts fan, first, but in issue #105, something really important happened. There was a truly moving scene where Zemo explained Cap' how he redeemed and why. He also gave back to Cap' his footlocker with all the memories he once destroyed. In a way, I think they made it up, and in the end, Zemo gave Cap' the key of the jail he would probably have been locked in, so that he could escape.

Zemo was thrown away back in time while Cap' was being shot, so he wasn't there when it happened. But my guess is that he won't be happy at all when he'll be said that Captain America was killed (as well as Thor, by the way, but that's another thing...).

Helmut Zemo with Captain America shield! A surprising thought, Thunderbolts style! \:\-\)


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Uatu




> Hey guys, I'm working on a big Cap Sunday package for my local paper, interviewed Joe Quesada, got courtesy art and I've even written up an obituary.. but maybe you guys can help me with something (and I'll try and include a link to the message board in the story).
>
> Who are the likely or even possible candidates for replacing Steve Rogers as Captain America and why?
>
> My thoughts:
>
> Josiah X - Currently an unnamed costumed patriotic hero. As an African American and a Muslim, Josiah would bring something new to Captain America.
>
> Patriot - The teenage nephew of Josiah X and grandson of a surviving member of Operation: Rebirth, Elijah Bradley is currently a member of the Young Avengers.
>
> Jack Flag - With super-human strength and durability, Jack Flag served as a one-time partner to Steve Rogers. He was recently dealt a spinal injury while resisting arrest after avoiding Super-Human Registration.
>
> Free Spirit - Cathy Webster has peak human strength and agility. She once fought alongside Steve Rogers and is currently attending college.
>
> Battlestar - A modern-day version of Bucky with super-human strength and durability, Lemar Hoskins resisted Registration following in his idol's footsteps.
>
> The Falcon - Long-time partner to Steve Rogers and a member of the Avengers, Sam Wilson is Marvel's first African-American super-hero and a one-time Captain America.
>
> U.S.Agent - A former villain and a former Captain America, U.S.Agent is currently serving his country by helping the nation's Candian nieghbors rebuild their super-hero community.
>
> Winter Soldier - The original Bucky, recently discovered alive and well, has been covertly helping Steve Rogers and his allies prior to his mentor's death.
>
> Hawkeye - Clint Barton, recently deceased, has resurfaced and has chosen to give up his arrow-slinging super-hero identity. Steve Rogers once asked Barton to take the shield should anything happen to him.
>
> Iron Man - Tony Stark, Steve Roger's longtime friend and recent opponent, currently posseses Roger's shield and has the governmental authority to decide who will be the next Captain America.
>
>
> .... Any others? Should I remove any from this list?
>
> Who would you want to be Cap?


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Brand Echh




What is Cap's birthdate? Wikipedia lists it as July 4, 1917, but I don't trust Wikipedia as far as I can throw it.... plus it references the Sentinel of Liberty series that was not fully in continuity.... is there any in-continuity reference to his birthdate?



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kdx125




... Cable, who carried Captain America's shield in the far future and on some level still regards it as "his" shield. Cable wouldn't particularly want to be Captain America (he seems to feel he's evolved beyond that role), but if Stark gave the shield to someone he considered unworthy, I could see him taking it away for safekeeping, maybe holding it in Providence until America repealed the SHRA. Kind of like the Marvel Civil War's Guernica ...


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Brand Echh




> ... Cable, who carried Captain America's shield in the far future and on some level still regards it as "his" shield. Cable wouldn't particularly want to be Captain America (he seems to feel he's evolved beyond that role), but if Stark gave the shield to someone he considered unworthy, I could see him taking it away for safekeeping, maybe holding it in Providence until America repealed the SHRA. Kind of like the Marvel Civil War's Guernica ...


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kdx125




> > ... Cable, who carried Captain America's shield in the far future and on some level still regards it as "his" shield. Cable wouldn't particularly want to be Captain America (he seems to feel he's evolved beyond that role), but if Stark gave the shield to someone he considered unworthy, I could see him taking it away for safekeeping, maybe holding it in Providence until America repealed the SHRA. Kind of like the Marvel Civil War's Guernica ...


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Daniel




>

> > > You forgot the Punisher. He seems to have great respect for Captain America since he took a beating from him and refused to fight back. Plus, he picked up the mask at the end of Civil War.
> >
> > Right, forgot that one.
> >
>
> Regardless of how much respect and awe Punisher has for Cap there is NO way he would suit up. Punisher knows his methods are radically different from Cap, not to mention more TERMINAL to his foes. No way would Frank desecrate the name of Captain America by suiting up as Cap.

Hi All

I do agree that there will eventually a replacement Captain America.
As for the Top Candidates:

1.The Punisher –
Although Frank has tremendous respect for Cap, I do not see him wearing the suit. I think maybe he will wear the mask around his arm to show mourning/carry on the memory, but not actually become the new Captain America. Frank knows that Steve hates his methods and will not disrespect a fellow fallen solider by taking up the suit and kill.
Although I some do see some confrontation between Frank and no.2. Although they most likely get along fine considering the are both soldiers and have similar methods/ethics. Can’t wait.

2.Bucky/Winter Solider –
I see him working along side Nick Fury and other supporting characters in tracking down Cap’s killers. He will still hold the title of Winter Solider (Maybe he would change it to Nomad- but that a whole different post altogether). He could possibly take Cap’s shield and use it as his own - I can not think of another person more deserving to take it up as his own. Plus I do not think that he would jump from still being so ashamed of himself to even talk to Steve to donning the Captain America costume.

3.Patriot – Has his own ID and is in his own group the Young Adventures (I take it he is the leader?). He probably will do something out of respect, but I do not see him becoming the next Cap. Also his age is a concern…

4.Josiah X – Sorry, never heard of him

5.Jack Flag – A possibility, as he could have been built up from being young, brash and cocky (Spider-man-like) to a worthy mature, levelheaded Cap replacement– but now that is gone, since he is too busy these days being crippled by Bullseye.

6.Free Spirit – I liked her, haven’t seen her since the ‘Out of Time’ storyarc. As good as she is, I do not think the world is ready for a female Captain America. Just an observation, I am not being sexist, so calm down everyone.

7.Battlestar – Like Patriot, Battlestar is too entrenched into his own ID. I cannot see him being anyone else. Although I would love to see a reunion between him and Walker…

8.The Falcon- Like Bucky, I see him working along side Nick Fury and other supporting characters in tracking down Cap’s killers. He could possibly take Cap’s shield and use it as his own. Also he would still carry on the ID Cap helped him create.

9.Iron Man – I do not at all see him actually wearing the costume. Although as a sign of respect he could paint his amour red, white and blue for awhile. I also see him playing a hand in picking the replacement and recreating a new shield like he did back in the day…

10.Hawkeye – I see him as a possibility. Considering his long history with Steve and he also been dead (that might hit home with Steve dying…) he could take up the role. His personality is a little bit more upbeat the Rogers, so think the equivalent of Nightwing as Batman.

11.USAgent – In my opinion: save the best for last! For those who read my other posts, I have been hoping Walker gets a second go. He has history with Rogers, He has history with Stark (See no.9) and he already knows what the pressure of being Captain America is. Since his first run he has improve significantly and you just know after he hears of what happened with Steve, he would jump at the opportunity to have another chance at taking up the mantle. Also he fits the description of a more hard-edged modern Captain America.
Could I finally get my ‘John Walker replacement Cap Part II’? The Omega Flight mini could go on while ‘Fallen Son’ which will buy time for Walker to finish the Omega Flight Story-arc then he comes back to the States to publicly take up the Mantle of Captain America.

Only time will tell ….

Thank for reading!



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Brand Echh




> 3.Patriot – Has his own ID and is in his own group the Young Adventures (I take it he is the leader?). He probably will do something out of respect, but I do not see him becoming the next Cap. Also his age is a concern…

> 4.Josiah X – Sorry, never heard of him

Josiah X is Patriot's uncle. His father (Patriot's grandfather) was the controversial "Black Captain America" of the Red, White and Black mini-series, but Josiah appeared in Christopher Priest's series, the Crew.

Although he's never recieved an official code name (although Priest considered naming him Justice), Josiah wears the red, white and blue but is a polar opposite to Steve Rogers in many ways.

Extremely long-lived thanks to the super-soldier serum (he was born in the late 1940s or early 50s but looks to be in his late 20s), Josiah is a Muslim leader and political activist. He has also been in hiding from the government for many years.




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Goblin




Falcon - One of Steve's closest friends and allies, he knows what it takes and how to be Captain America. Also, signs seem to suggestion he has registered, so he isn't an outlaw vigilante.

Winter Soldier - Bucky's probably the guy Steve would say should be the next Captain America. But there's the question of whether Bucky would be willing or even able to.

Sharon Carter - Nothing says Captain America has to be a man. She's another close person to Steve and think of how hard it would be on her being given Cap's shield after being Steve's unwilling assassin.

Battlestar - The guy does pattern himself after Captain America already. If he took the pardon and registered, he could find himself being groomed as the next Cap.

Punisher - Civil War make it a point to show the respect Frank has for who Captain America is. Now with Steve gone, he could decide to carry on the role in his own way. It isn't like he's a guy who cares what other people think.

Josiah X - Last seen, he was beginning to really embrace his family history. He hasn't been heard from since, but with Steve dead, he may decide to step up.

Justice - A New Warrior and a mutant, Vance could be a very startling but maybe inspiring candidate for Tony to choose as the next Captain America.

U.S.Agent - John would probably consider himself the next in line to be Captain America. But his assignment to Omega Flight may take him out of the running.

Clint Barton - Currently running around in the cold without an identity to call his own. But the big question is whether he would want to come back to the world in such an attention-grabbing way.

Luke Cage - The guy already has the brass to take the Avengers name for his own. Who's to say that with all his righteous anger over what happened with Steve he may not decide to take another name?


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Maverick V





http://www.comicboards.com/camb/view.php?trd=070309150011

How about the Protocide?


> Hey guys, I'm working on a big Cap Sunday package for my local paper, interviewed Joe Quesada, got courtesy art and I've even written up an obituary.. but maybe you guys can help me with something (and I'll try and include a link to the message board in the story).
>
> Who are the likely or even possible candidates for replacing Steve Rogers as Captain America and why?
>
> My thoughts:
>
> Josiah X - Currently an unnamed costumed patriotic hero. As an African American and a Muslim, Josiah would bring something new to Captain America.
>
> Patriot - The teenage nephew of Josiah X and grandson of a surviving member of Operation: Rebirth, Elijah Bradley is currently a member of the Young Avengers.
>
> Jack Flag - With super-human strength and durability, Jack Flag served as a one-time partner to Steve Rogers. He was recently dealt a spinal injury while resisting arrest after avoiding Super-Human Registration.
>
> Free Spirit - Cathy Webster has peak human strength and agility. She once fought alongside Steve Rogers and is currently attending college.
>
> Battlestar - A modern-day version of Bucky with super-human strength and durability, Lemar Hoskins resisted Registration following in his idol's footsteps.
>
> The Falcon - Long-time partner to Steve Rogers and a member of the Avengers, Sam Wilson is Marvel's first African-American super-hero and a one-time Captain America.
>
> U.S.Agent - A former villain and a former Captain America, U.S.Agent is currently serving his country by helping the nation's Candian nieghbors rebuild their super-hero community.
>
> Winter Soldier - The original Bucky, recently discovered alive and well, has been covertly helping Steve Rogers and his allies prior to his mentor's death.
>
> Hawkeye - Clint Barton, recently deceased, has resurfaced and has chosen to give up his arrow-slinging super-hero identity. Steve Rogers once asked Barton to take the shield should anything happen to him.
>
> Iron Man - Tony Stark, Steve Roger's longtime friend and recent opponent, currently posseses Roger's shield and has the governmental authority to decide who will be the next Captain America.
>
>
> .... Any others? Should I remove any from this list?
>
> Who would you want to be Cap?


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Shield Slinger





> 11.USAgent – In my opinion: save the best for last! For those who read my other posts, I have been hoping Walker gets a second go. He has history with Rogers, He has history with Stark (See no.9) and he already knows what the pressure of being Captain America is. Since his first run he has improve significantly and you just know after he hears of what happened with Steve, he would jump at the opportunity to have another chance at taking up the mantle. Also he fits the description of a more hard-edged modern Captain America.
> Could I finally get my ‘John Walker replacement Cap Part II’? The Omega Flight mini could go on while ‘Fallen Son’ which will buy time for Walker to finish the Omega Flight Story-arc then he comes back to the States to publicly take up the Mantle of Captain America.


I think that Walker is the most likely candidate. I wouldn't be surprised at all if that's who Stark picks. That brings back fond memories to one of my favorite CAP issues (CAP #350) when Cap once again takes the shield and uniform back. If not for John Walker, Cap might have taken a face full of red dust.
>
> Only time will tell ….
>
> Thank for reading!
>


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KW




> >
>
> > > > You forgot the Punisher. He seems to have great respect for Captain America since he took a beating from him and refused to fight back. Plus, he picked up the mask at the end of Civil War.
> > >
> > > Right, forgot that one.
> > >
> >
> > Regardless of how much respect and awe Punisher has for Cap there is NO way he would suit up. Punisher knows his methods are radically different from Cap, not to mention more TERMINAL to his foes. No way would Frank desecrate the name of Captain America by suiting up as Cap.
>
> Hi All
>
> I do agree that there will eventually a replacement Captain America.
> As for the Top Candidates:
>
> 1.The Punisher –
> Although Frank has tremendous respect for Cap, I do not see him wearing the suit. I think maybe he will wear the mask around his arm to show mourning/carry on the memory, but not actually become the new Captain America. Frank knows that Steve hates his methods and will not disrespect a fellow fallen solider by taking up the suit and kill.
> Although I some do see some confrontation between Frank and no.2. Although they most likely get along fine considering the are both soldiers and have similar methods/ethics. Can’t wait.
>
I can see a throwdown with Punisher and Bucky. Their personalities alone would be enough to make it a worthwhile confrontation
> 2.Bucky/Winter Solider –
> I see him working along side Nick Fury and other supporting characters in tracking down Cap’s killers. He will still hold the title of Winter Solider (Maybe he would change it to Nomad- but that a whole different post altogether). He could possibly take Cap’s shield and use it as his own - I can not think of another person more deserving to take it up as his own. Plus I do not think that he would jump from still being so ashamed of himself to even talk to Steve to donning the Captain America costume.
>
My pick is Bucky personally. Makes the most sense and he is, in my opinion, one of the coolest supporting characters in Captain America's cast (him and Falcon are tied as coolest supporting characters)
> 3.Patriot – Has his own ID and is in his own group the Young Adventures (I take it he is the leader?). He probably will do something out of respect, but I do not see him becoming the next Cap. Also his age is a concern…
>
Ya. He needs to establish himself as a Young Avenger before he makes the jump to the big leagues
> 4.Josiah X – Sorry, never heard of him
>
From what i understand, Josiah and STeve didn't get along. Would make very little sense for him to pick up where Steve left off
> 5.Jack Flag – A possibility, as he could have been built up from being young, brash and cocky (Spider-man-like) to a worthy mature, levelheaded Cap replacement– but now that is gone, since he is too busy these days being crippled by Bullseye.
>
Ya. And if he weren't crippled, I'm still not sure if i'd want him as Cap. But that may be because the Boom Box just seemed so utterly ridiculous to me that it has somehow affected my respect for the character
> 6.Free Spirit – I liked her, haven’t seen her since the ‘Out of Time’ storyarc. As good as she is, I do not think the world is ready for a female Captain America. Just an observation, I am not being sexist, so calm down everyone.
>
I want to see her back in the Cap book again. If she has to where the suit in order for that to happen, then give her a shot. Not my number 1 or even number 2 pick tho
> 7.Battlestar – Like Patriot, Battlestar is too entrenched into his own ID. I cannot see him being anyone else. Although I would love to see a reunion between him and Walker…
>
I know his background and everything, but i haven't read enough issues with him in it to get a real good feel for his character. I'm not sure i'd be for this or not.
> 8.The Falcon- Like Bucky, I see him working along side Nick Fury and other supporting characters in tracking down Cap’s killers. He could possibly take Cap’s shield and use it as his own. Also he would still carry on the ID Cap helped him create.
>
If not BUcky, then i pick him as the next in line. He's earned the shot
> 9.Iron Man – I do not at all see him actually wearing the costume. Although as a sign of respect he could paint his amour red, white and blue for awhile. I also see him playing a hand in picking the replacement and recreating a new shield like he did back in the day…
>
Ya. Having Iron Man where the Cap suit would be like having Lex Luthor becoming Superman. Sure he wasn't directly invovled in his death, but he had enough to do with it to be put on my blacklist of "People Who Ruined Cap's life"
> 10.Hawkeye – I see him as a possibility. Considering his long history with Steve and he also been dead (that might hit home with Steve dying…) he could take up the role. His personality is a little bit more upbeat the Rogers, so think the equivalent of Nightwing as Batman.
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Why didn't i think of this one!?! I love Clint! My second favorite Avenger of all time is Clint! It even helps that Kate Bishop took up his old name so he is currently without an alias right now. I think that's some pretty good timing on your part Marvel!
STill i pick Bucky and Falcon over him. He's my number 2 pick (remember Sam and Bucky are tied for first)
> 11.USAgent – In my opinion: save the best for last! For those who read my other posts, I have been hoping Walker gets a second go. He has history with Rogers, He has history with Stark (See no.9) and he already knows what the pressure of being Captain America is. Since his first run he has improve significantly and you just know after he hears of what happened with Steve, he would jump at the opportunity to have another chance at taking up the mantle. Also he fits the description of a more hard-edged modern Captain America.
> Could I finally get my ‘John Walker replacement Cap Part II’? The Omega Flight mini could go on while ‘Fallen Son’ which will buy time for Walker to finish the Omega Flight Story-arc then he comes back to the States to publicly take up the Mantle of Captain America.
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I kinda feel like we've sorta been there, done that. We know it didn't work the first time, and I think John knows it didn't work the first time (or even the second time if you consider Chuck Austen's run in Avengers as canon, but i'd like to ignore that time in Avengers history)
> Only time will tell ….
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> Thank for reading!
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Brand Echh




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> http://www.comicboards.com/camb/view.php?trd=070309150011
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> How about the Protocide?

Protocide's got potential, but that needs to be developed some before he's thrown into a major spotlight.



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Lorendiac




This material is being quoted from my
X-Men Fatality Timeline (4th Draft)


(In it, I try to list every time when any X-Men have died, and every time they have come back. Cap was at ground zero on at least one such occasion that hasn't been mentioned in this thread yet.)

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1984. Marvel Super Heroes Secret Wars #11. Written by Jim Shooter.

Doctor Doom, possessed of the power of the Beyonder, blasts at the assembled heroes on the war world of the Secret Wars. From comments made in #12, we gather that this should have involved killing all members of the X-Men who participated in that miniseries. In alphabetical order: Colossus, Cyclops, Lockheed, Nightcrawler, Professor X, Rogue, Storm, Wolverine.

[Note added to this post: Also Captain America and several other Avengers, as well as Spider-Man, Hulk, and the three male members of the Fantastic Four, if memory serves.]

1985. Marvel Super Heroes Secret Wars #12. Written by Jim Shooter.

They’re back! Colossus, Cyclops, Lockheed, Nightcrawler, Professor X, Rogue, Storm, Wolverine! Good as new!

[Note: Also all of the other heroes I mentioned as dying in the previous issue -- including Cap, of course!]

Thank Doctor Doom’s mood swings, the Beyonder’s manipulations, an alien healer girl named Zsaji who died, and the wonders of superduper futuristic technology.
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Incidentally, I also mention in my Timeline several cases of what I call "Implicit Death." For example, if the entire Marvel Universe gets erased from existence for a split-second, that implicitly means that in that moment, every Marvel character we ever heard of before is "dead" if he wasn't already. Then, when the entire Marvel Universe gets restored to its previous condition (as always happens in such stories), all those characters have implicitly "been raised from the dead" -- even if, after all the fuss is over, none of them (or almost none?) know or care that anything special happened!

But if you want the full list of times when that sort of nonsense has happened, you'll have to follow the link and read my Timeline for yourself -- it would take too long and cut-and-paste the separate listings for each such story! \:\)


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James Hunter




> Hey guys, I'm working on a big Cap Sunday package for my local paper, interviewed Joe Quesada, got courtesy art and I've even written up an obituary.. but maybe you guys can help me with something (and I'll try and include a link to the message board in the story).
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> Who are the likely or even possible candidates for replacing Steve Rogers as Captain America and why?
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> My thoughts:
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> Josiah X - Currently an unnamed costumed patriotic hero. As an African American and a Muslim, Josiah would bring something new to Captain America.

Well I'd definitly take any opportunity to see Josiah again, he's an excellent character wasting away in limbo and would make an excellent stand-in cap for the rest of the year (I'm convinced Steve will be back before 08)

> Patriot - The teenage nephew of Josiah X and grandson of a surviving member of Operation: Rebirth, Elijah Bradley is currently a member of the Young Avengers.

It's too soon, the character needs more exposure and development, I can see him being Marvel's legacy character in 20 years or so, but at the minute it's too soon.

> Jack Flag - With super-human strength and durability, Jack Flag served as a one-time partner to Steve Rogers. He was recently dealt a spinal injury while resisting arrest after avoiding Super-Human Registration.

I'd like to see more of Jack Flagg, but AS Jack not as a cap stand in, there's a lot that can be done with him IMHO.

> Free Spirit - Cathy Webster has peak human strength and agility. She once fought alongside Steve Rogers and is currently attending college.

Hmm, it would be a bit to out of left field for my liking.

> Battlestar - A modern-day version of Bucky with super-human strength and durability, Lemar Hoskins resisted Registration following in his idol's footsteps.

Nah, I like Battlestar AS Battlestar and don't think he'd work as Cap.

> The Falcon - Long-time partner to Steve Rogers and a member of the Avengers, Sam Wilson is Marvel's first African-American super-hero and a one-time Captain America.

Again, I prefer him as the Falcon and feel that's where his potential lies.

> U.S.Agent - A former villain and a former Captain America, U.S.Agent is currently serving his country by helping the nation's Candian nieghbors rebuild their super-hero community.

He would say that he already is! \:\-P

He worked in New Invaders so it would be interesting to see him as a Cap stand in actually. (He's my second choice, after Josiah I think)

> Winter Soldier - The original Bucky, recently discovered alive and well, has been covertly helping Steve Rogers and his allies prior to his mentor's death.

I'd rather have Bucky as Bucky, there's so much to explore with him and what he's lost. I wouldn't hate it if he took over the mantle (and I know Namor would approve \:\-P ) but to me he's just more interesting as he is.

> Hawkeye - Clint Barton, recently deceased, has resurfaced and has chosen to give up his arrow-slinging super-hero identity. Steve Rogers once asked Barton to take the shield should anything happen to him.

Whilst it would be interesting I still supsect that he's Ronin. Would Hawk accept Cap's death though?

> Iron Man - Tony Stark, Steve Roger's longtime friend and recent opponent, currently posseses Roger's shield and has the governmental authority to decide who will be the next Captain America.

I'd like to see Tony give the shield, but I don't believe he should hold it himself.

> .... Any others? Should I remove any from this list?

IMO it could be interesting to have Nick Fury (arguably Steve's closest, and longest standing friend) take up the mantle of Captain America. there are similarities between the two and it would be a novel thing to do with Nick whilst tony is head of S.H.I.E.L.D.

> Who would you want to be Cap?

Josiah X is my first choice, with U.S Agent as my second and Hawkeye or fury tied as my third, each one has potential.

I'd like to see Josiah again though, and it would be interesting to see I feel.

Cheers.

James.


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Alfredo Bermudez




> > > ... Cable, who carried Captain America's shield in the far future and on some level still regards it as "his" shield. Cable wouldn't particularly want to be Captain America (he seems to feel he's evolved beyond that role), but if Stark gave the shield to someone he considered unworthy, I could see him taking it away for safekeeping, maybe holding it in Providence until America repealed the SHRA. Kind of like the Marvel Civil War's Guernica ...


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