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First of all, while Rulk is hella strong, I don't know that he is TWICE as strong as Thor, which is at least where Kurse is.

But more importantly, Kurse is magically powered (or whatever energy the beyonder uses) and can exist in all environments. Rulk had to hold his breath in space!! Even WWH could breath in space. Zap the oxygen, he's done...eventually. Put him in space, HE'S DONE! He can't propel himself and he can't breath. This is NOT the formula for a herald buster.

I am telling you, Rulk has been VERY effective in his run thus far, but he is still being overrated on this board.



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> First of all, while Rulk is hella strong, I don't know that he is TWICE as strong as Thor, which is at least where Kurse is.
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> But more importantly, Kurse is magically powered (or whatever energy the beyonder uses) and can exist in all environments. Rulk had to hold his breath in space!! Even WWH could breath in space. Zap the oxygen, he's done...eventually. Put him in space, HE'S DONE! He can't propel himself and he can't breath. This is NOT the formula for a herald buster.
>
> I am telling you, Rulk has been VERY effective in his run thus far, but he is still being overrated on this board.
>


The Red Hulk is a character who's developed his own Legend here and it's very wrong because so much is a complete mystery about him. Too many assumptions are being made.

Kurse was very very powerful, I don't think Thors current power-up is by all that much TBH so your assesment on comparable powerlevels is sound enough for me on the face of it. Magical types always have staggering stamina and durability compared to their counterparts and I guess it depends on whether the Red Hulk turns out to be Flesh & Blood or something else. I don't get the impression Jeph Loebs writes with any absolute scientific accuracy in mind, he just goes for simple thrills and the quick sell so it's all up in the air a bit.



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because neither can fly, so basically a fight in outerspace occurs and it's a mutual draw, as they cannot fight or get to each other.

Now, if they WERE in outer-space, granted Kurse can breathe in outer space and if they were able to get ahold of each other, it's well documented that Kurse of Asgard is (4x) stronger than Thor is. So far, RHulk has not demonstrated sufficiently if can or cannot match that level of strength, however, what RHulk HAS done is something that Kurse has not done: RHulk has dispatched Thor in WAY less time than in ANY and EVERY encounter that Kurse has had with Thor. That's saying something.

Still, not being able to breathe in outerspace is an advantage that Kurse would have over RHulk, but the likelihood of them fighting in outerspace is so negligible, that they would certainly need assistance from someone either technologically or magically or via another means to continue such a fight, or be near an asteroid belt so they could jump towards each other to continue such a fight.

Most likely, we'd see them fighting on some form of ground on a planet or moon somewhere.

Considering how much stronger Kurse is over Thor vs. how very fast Rhulk dispatched Thor, it's logical to conclude that a fight between the two, based on current showings from Rhulk, would be a long bloody affair, for now.

Until Rhulk shows he's beyond Teambuster ability and into Skyfather level power, we have only seen Rhulk do what many feel are either high end Herald level ability and/or Teambuster level ability. Speculative, though.


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> First of all, while Rulk is hella strong, I don't know that he is TWICE as strong as Thor, which is at least where Kurse is.
>
> But more importantly, Kurse is magically powered (or whatever energy the beyonder uses) and can exist in all environments. Rulk had to hold his breath in space!! Even WWH could breath in space. Zap the oxygen, he's done...eventually. Put him in space, HE'S DONE! He can't propel himself and he can't breath. This is NOT the formula for a herald buster.
>
> I am telling you, Rulk has been VERY effective in his run thus far, but he is still being overrated on this board.
>




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> because neither can fly, so basically a fight in outerspace occurs and it's a mutual draw, as they cannot fight or get to each other.
>
> Now, if they WERE in outer-space, granted Kurse can breathe in outer space and if they were able to get ahold of each other, it's well documented that Kurse of Asgard is (4x) stronger than Thor is. So far, RHulk has not demonstrated sufficiently if can or cannot match that level of strength, however, what RHulk HAS done is something that Kurse has not done: RHulk has dispatched Thor in WAY less time than in ANY and EVERY encounter that Kurse has had with Thor. That's saying something.
>
> Still, not being able to breathe in outerspace is an advantage that Kurse would have over RHulk, but the likelihood of them fighting in outerspace is so negligible, that they would certainly need assistance from someone either technologically or magically or via another means to continue such a fight, or be near an asteroid belt so they could jump towards each other to continue such a fight.
>
> Most likely, we'd see them fighting on some form of ground on a planet or moon somewhere.
>
> Considering how much stronger Kurse is over Thor vs. how very fast Rhulk dispatched Thor, it's logical to conclude that a fight between the two, based on current showings from Rhulk, would be a long bloody affair, for now.
>
> Until Rhulk shows he's beyond Teambuster ability and into Skyfather level power, we have only seen Rhulk do what many feel are either high end Herald level ability and/or Teambuster level ability. Speculative, though.
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> > First of all, while Rulk is hella strong, I don't know that he is TWICE as strong as Thor, which is at least where Kurse is.
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> > But more importantly, Kurse is magically powered (or whatever energy the beyonder uses) and can exist in all environments. Rulk had to hold his breath in space!! Even WWH could breath in space. Zap the oxygen, he's done...eventually. Put him in space, HE'S DONE! He can't propel himself and he can't breath. This is NOT the formula for a herald buster.
> >
> > I am telling you, Rulk has been VERY effective in his run thus far, but he is still being overrated on this board.
> >




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> > because neither can fly, so basically a fight in outerspace occurs and it's a mutual draw, as they cannot fight or get to each other.
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> > Now, if they WERE in outer-space, granted Kurse can breathe in outer space and if they were able to get ahold of each other, it's well documented that Kurse of Asgard is (4x) stronger than Thor is. So far, RHulk has not demonstrated sufficiently if can or cannot match that level of strength, however, what RHulk HAS done is something that Kurse has not done: RHulk has dispatched Thor in WAY less time than in ANY and EVERY encounter that Kurse has had with Thor. That's saying something.
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> > Still, not being able to breathe in outerspace is an advantage that Kurse would have over RHulk, but the likelihood of them fighting in outerspace is so negligible, that they would certainly need assistance from someone either technologically or magically or via another means to continue such a fight, or be near an asteroid belt so they could jump towards each other to continue such a fight.
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> > Most likely, we'd see them fighting on some form of ground on a planet or moon somewhere.
> >
> > Considering how much stronger Kurse is over Thor vs. how very fast Rhulk dispatched Thor, it's logical to conclude that a fight between the two, based on current showings from Rhulk, would be a long bloody affair, for now.
> >
> > Until Rhulk shows he's beyond Teambuster ability and into Skyfather level power, we have only seen Rhulk do what many feel are either high end Herald level ability and/or Teambuster level ability. Speculative, though.
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> > >
> > > First of all, while Rulk is hella strong, I don't know that he is TWICE as strong as Thor, which is at least where Kurse is.
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> > > But more importantly, Kurse is magically powered (or whatever energy the beyonder uses) and can exist in all environments. Rulk had to hold his breath in space!! Even WWH could breath in space. Zap the oxygen, he's done...eventually. Put him in space, HE'S DONE! He can't propel himself and he can't breath. This is NOT the formula for a herald buster.
> > >
> > > I am telling you, Rulk has been VERY effective in his run thus far, but he is still being overrated on this board.
> > >

>




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> > First of all, while Rulk is hella strong, I don't know that he is TWICE as strong as Thor, which is at least where Kurse is.
> >
> > But more importantly, Kurse is magically powered (or whatever energy the beyonder uses) and can exist in all environments. Rulk had to hold his breath in space!! Even WWH could breath in space. Zap the oxygen, he's done...eventually. Put him in space, HE'S DONE! He can't propel himself and he can't breath. This is NOT the formula for a herald buster.
> >
> > I am telling you, Rulk has been VERY effective in his run thus far, but he is still being overrated on this board.
> >

>
> The Red Hulk is a character who's developed his own Legend here and it's very wrong because so much is a complete mystery about him. Too many assumptions are being made.
>
> Kurse was very very powerful, I don't think Thors current power-up is by all that much TBH so your assesment on comparable powerlevels is sound enough for me on the face of it. Magical types always have staggering stamina and durability compared to their counterparts and I guess it depends on whether the Red Hulk turns out to be Flesh & Blood or something else. I don't get the impression Jeph Loebs writes with any absolute scientific accuracy in mind, he just goes for simple thrills and the quick sell so it's all up in the air a bit.
>




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> > > because neither can fly, so basically a fight in outerspace occurs and it's a mutual draw, as they cannot fight or get to each other.
> > >
> > > Now, if they WERE in outer-space, granted Kurse can breathe in outer space and if they were able to get ahold of each other, it's well documented that Kurse of Asgard is (4x) stronger than Thor is. So far, RHulk has not demonstrated sufficiently if can or cannot match that level of strength, however, what RHulk HAS done is something that Kurse has not done: RHulk has dispatched Thor in WAY less time than in ANY and EVERY encounter that Kurse has had with Thor. That's saying something.
> > >
> > > Still, not being able to breathe in outerspace is an advantage that Kurse would have over RHulk, but the likelihood of them fighting in outerspace is so negligible, that they would certainly need assistance from someone either technologically or magically or via another means to continue such a fight, or be near an asteroid belt so they could jump towards each other to continue such a fight.
> > >
> > > Most likely, we'd see them fighting on some form of ground on a planet or moon somewhere.
> > >
> > > Considering how much stronger Kurse is over Thor vs. how very fast Rhulk dispatched Thor, it's logical to conclude that a fight between the two, based on current showings from Rhulk, would be a long bloody affair, for now.
> > >
> > > Until Rhulk shows he's beyond Teambuster ability and into Skyfather level power, we have only seen Rhulk do what many feel are either high end Herald level ability and/or Teambuster level ability. Speculative, though.
> > >
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> > > >
> > > > First of all, while Rulk is hella strong, I don't know that he is TWICE as strong as Thor, which is at least where Kurse is.
> > > >
> > > > But more importantly, Kurse is magically powered (or whatever energy the beyonder uses) and can exist in all environments. Rulk had to hold his breath in space!! Even WWH could breath in space. Zap the oxygen, he's done...eventually. Put him in space, HE'S DONE! He can't propel himself and he can't breath. This is NOT the formula for a herald buster.
> > > >
> > > > I am telling you, Rulk has been VERY effective in his run thus far, but he is still being overrated on this board.
> > > >

> >




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>
> First of all, while Rulk is hella strong, I don't know that he is TWICE as strong as Thor, which is at least where Kurse is.
>
> But more importantly, Kurse is magically powered (or whatever energy the beyonder uses) and can exist in all environments. Rulk had to hold his breath in space!! Even WWH could breath in space. Zap the oxygen, he's done...eventually. Put him in space, HE'S DONE! He can't propel himself and he can't breath. This is NOT the formula for a herald buster.
>
> I am telling you, Rulk has been VERY effective in his run thus far, but he is still being overrated on this board.
>




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considering the competition he had those two rounds, I think the board gave a decent rendering of how SS Goku represented himself versus those whom he battled against in that tourney. The Board knows how supersaiyans perform relative to others in Marvel/DC.




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> considering the competition he had those two rounds, I think the board gave a decent rendering of how SS Goku represented himself versus those whom he battled against in that tourney. The Board knows how supersaiyans perform relative to others in Marvel/DC.
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Even so, Saiyans can operate in space for a while.



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...and simply put more weight into the argument RHulk beating Thor is OK. If Kurse can and nobody complain when it happens I can't beleive it would bother anybody to have Rhulk beat the crap out of Thor the the way Kurse supposedly could. For all we know Rhulk might be Death in disguise having fun at the readers expense So it's even more acceptable because for all we know he just might be 10000 times stronger than thor...puny kurse.

Heck he might almost be 10% of superman prime level on the bootch scale of strenght. ;-p





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Look, in some RARE case I supposed that a herald could be a herald and not be able to breath, but Rulk needs to in the he doesn't have any other powers to compensate. He can't fly dude. He's a sitting duck in space. Even low end heralds like Wonderman can breath in space. Can you name another flying brick herald that can't breath in space?

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> ...and simply put more weight into the argument RHulk beating Thor is OK. If Kurse can and nobody complain when it happens I can't beleive it would bother anybody to have Rhulk beat the crap out of Thor the the way Kurse supposedly could. For all we know Rhulk might be Death in disguise having fun at the readers expense So it's even more acceptable because for all we know he just might be 10000 times stronger than thor...puny kurse.
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> Heck he might almost be 10% of superman prime level on the bootch scale of strenght. ;-p
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who thinks thats not bad at all for a non-flying, air breathing Brick.








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> > considering the competition he had those two rounds, I think the board gave a decent rendering of how SS Goku represented himself versus those whom he battled against in that tourney. The Board knows how supersaiyans perform relative to others in Marvel/DC.
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> Even so, Saiyans can operate in space for a while.
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Are you guys serious? Suppose he was BFR to space. He'd die, plain and simple.



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> Look, in some RARE case I supposed that a herald could be a herald and not be able to breath, but Rulk needs to in the he doesn't have any other powers to compensate. He can't fly dude. He's a sitting duck in space. Even low end heralds like Wonderman can breath in space. Can you name another flying brick herald that can't breath in space?
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> > ...and simply put more weight into the argument RHulk beating Thor is OK. If Kurse can and nobody complain when it happens I can't beleive it would bother anybody to have Rhulk beat the crap out of Thor the the way Kurse supposedly could. For all we know Rhulk might be Death in disguise having fun at the readers expense So it's even more acceptable because for all we know he just might be 10000 times stronger than thor...puny kurse.
> >
> > Heck he might almost be 10% of superman prime level on the bootch scale of strenght. ;-p
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... but if he has even half of Hulk's healing factor he would stay alive and might even adapt to being able to breathe in space (which is what WWH did).

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> Are you guys serious? Suppose he was BFR to space. He'd die, plain and simple.
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Do you really think someone with that kind of strength would be easy to BFR short of teleportation powers ?



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Heralds can breath in space.



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