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Subject: 2010 Dark Marvel Amalgam Tournament Tuesday Battles!!! Posted Tue Jan 12, 2010 at 08:33:07 am EST (Viewed 161 times) | ||
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The Round 1 updates will be announced later!! Banned powers are no multiple Man...no power stealing ala rogue, or mimic...I will think of more if the need arises. NO PREP! NO Enemy info! You get the knowledge of the dominant mind you choose and you get the experience of the person who the other powers belong to...but it is still up to the dominant mind to use that power as he/she sees fit. The way it works(For those that don't know) is you choose 3 characters after you choose the 3 characters you choose who the dominant mind will be. Remember you get powers(strengths) as well as weaknesses...once you have created your character and an overall concept...you have to(Dark Marvel Tradition)name your character. P.S. Powers Stack!!! 1. Ragnarok-Black Adam-BANNED! 2. Thorion-Full powered Magneto-BANNED 3. Liam Gallaghers Unibrow-Thor-BANNED! 4. Arcanix-Dr. DOOM-BANNED! 5. Exes-Beta Ray Bill-BANNED! 6. Tongan Giant-Majestic-BANNED! 7. RANDOM-Martian Manhunter-BANNED! ***Just the character...not the race...I agree whole races cannot be part of the banning...it's racism and I won't be part of that. 8. Nucleon-Blackbolt-BANNED! 9. Incriptus-Darkseid-BANNED! 10. BK Ray-Loki-BANNED! 11. Reedification-Juggernaut(gem of cyttorak)-BANNED! 12. Late Great Donald Blake-Silver Surfer-BANNED! 13. Hatman-Hulk-BANNED! 14. Joe Fixit-Superman-BANNED! 15. Los-STONECUTTER-BANNED! 16. Oculporate-Uber Cable-BANNED! Environments and more rules(which are the obvious ones) will come later. 1 Utopia(X-Men Island) http://www.comicvine.com/utopia/34-56536/ 2.Themyscara http://www.comicvine.com/paradise-island/34-56187/ 3.Kyln http://www.comicvine.com/the-kyln/34-56324/ 4.Tower Of Fate http://www.comicvine.com/tower-of-fate/34-55851/ 5.The Carrier http://www.comicvine.com/the-carrier/29-40548/ 6.Murderworld http://www.comicvine.com/murderworld/34-41963/ 7.Antarctica 8.K'un-Lun http://www.comicvine.com/kun-lun/34-56104/ 9.Genosha(Ruins) http://www.comicvine.com/genosha/34-40967/
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Subject: Re: 2010 Dark Marvel Amalgam Tournament Fight 1!! [Re: Dark Marvel] Posted Tue Jan 12, 2010 at 08:35:01 am EST (Viewed 158 times) | ||
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Tongan Giant SSS-Sebastion Sinister Summers HERALD - Vulcan PRIME META - Mr Sinister ENHANCED META - Sebastian Shaw Item-Johnny Quick speed formula vs LGU Old Man Nathan Herald: The High http://www.comicvine.com/the-high/29-24389/ PM: Deathverine http://www.comicboards.com/app/show.php?msg=comicbattles-2009051216234311&search=deathverine EM: Cable (classic) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cable_(comics) Item: Nega Bands http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Marvel_(Mar-Vell)#Powers_and_abilities http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genis-Vell#Powers_and_abilities Location-The Carrier http://www.comicvine.com/the-carrier/29-40548/
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Subject: LGU Write Up!! [Re: Dark Marvel] Posted Tue Jan 12, 2010 at 08:36:46 am EST (Viewed 114 times) | ||
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Herald: The High http://www.comicboards.com/php/show.php?msg=comicbattles-2010010722203078 PM: Deathverine http://www.comicboards.com/app/show.php?msg=comicbattles-2009051216234311&search=deathverine EM: Cable (classic) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cable_(comics) Item: Nega Bands http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Marvel_(Mar-Vell)#Powers_and_abilities http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genis-Vell#Powers_and_abilities First of all, good luck to the Giant, always seem to get you in the first round matey! First of all, the strategy behind my team. Combining Wolverine and the High's uber healing is going to purge the T-O virus out of Cable, giving Uber Cable levels of psi and TK. The Nega Bands operate based on the psionic energy of the wearer - note the power difference between Genis and his father for evidence of this. No-one has more psionic potential than a T-O free Cable, so he should get some fairly uber power out of the Nega Bands. In addition to that, the High gives Superman level strength, speed and durability, plus the added extras like telescopic and X-Ray vision, heat vision etc. Throw in Wolverine's adamantium skeleton, and even before you get to the stacked healing you have someone who is incredibly hard to hurt. Not to mention class 100+ backed unbreakable claws. Throw in Deathverine's uber sword and cloaking tech that made him invisible to the naked eye and completely undetectable by four of the most powerful psychics on the planet.... you've got a deadly customer. Invisible super-speed TK-amped decapitation for the win! \:-\) vs Tongan's team: Tongan has a great team and this will be a tricky battle. I am assuming Sinister is in charge. I'll try and go through the pros and cons as I see them. SPEED: to be honest, I'm not sure how fast the Johnny Quick formula makes one as I don't remember that arc at all. The High is cable of light speed+ flight, and demonstrated super-speed reflexes on a number of occasions. Throw in Logan's skill and telepathy so high-end that it may as well be minor pre-cog, I don't see my amalgam being speed-blitzed by too many people. STRENGTH: this one is a no-contest. Sinister is the only one bringing any super-strength to TG's amalgam, and the High positively dwarfs him in that regard. PSI: Sinister is a potent psi in his own right and very skilled. That said, he is explicitly nowhere near an unleashed Cable. When Cable briefly gained his full powers in Cable Annual #99, he was casually pwning Sinister and was about to peel back his psi defenses with ease until the T-O Virus returned. ENERGY PROJECTION/MANIP: Vulcan is pretty much the king at this but with the Nega Bands my guy will be no slouch at all. Trying to drain the Nega Bands is futile as they draw on an entire universe - Magus tried it and got overloaded. Vulcan's capacity to absorb energy does have a limit, we know that much, although it's extremely high. DURABILITY: The phasing of Shaw combined with Sinister's malleable form will make him a tricky customer to put down for keeps. Fortunately for me, Deathverine's sword is a built-in conter-measure for phasers; he was able to take out Shadowcat with it even whilst she was intangible. I believe scans of that are in the link posted above. Vulcan's powers are uber against characters dependant on energy for their assaults, but the last time he went up against a character on the High's level physically and with no energy source to drain he got utterly pwned. Ultimately, my amalgam is superior physically and in terms of mental powers, and isn't overly vulnerable to an energy drain from Vulcan's power-set. I think it will be a great fight until the Old Man gets pissed off, turns himself invisible and then does something along these lines: http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/snikt.jpg http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/snikt1.jpg \:-D I don't think even Sinister can pull himself back together from that kind of punishment! Thanks for reading, good luck again TG! Cheers.
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Subject: Fight 2!! [Re: Dark Marvel] Posted Tue Jan 12, 2010 at 08:37:37 am EST (Viewed 163 times) | ||
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Hatman Name: Sinestrobos, God of Trauma Herald: Sinestro (mind)- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinestro PM: Trauma - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trauma_%28comics%29 EM: Phobos (current) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phobos_%28Marvel_Comics%29 Item: Senzu Beans - http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Senzu_Bean vs Thorion Namorg the Seamaster H - Morg: http://marvel.wikia.com/Morg PM - Namor: http://marvel.wikia.com/Namor_McKenzie_(Earth-616) EM-Katara: http://www.comicvine.com/katara/29-25622/ Item - Aegis Breastplate: http://marvel.wikia.com/Aegis_(Trey_Rollins) Location: Themyscara http://www.comicvine.com/paradise-island/34-56187/
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Thorion![]() Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008 Posts: 6,211 |
Subject: Write Up [Re: Dark Marvel] Posted Tue Jan 12, 2010 at 09:18:50 am EST (Viewed 119 times) | ||
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Quote: HatmanQuote: Name: Sinestrobos, God of TraumaQuote: Herald: Sinestro (mind)- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SinestroQuote: PM: Trauma - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trauma_%28comics%29Quote: EM: Phobos (current) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phobos_%28Marvel_Comics%29Quote: Item: Senzu Beans - http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Senzu_BeanQuote: vsQuote: ThorionQuote: Namorg the SeamasterQuote: H - Morg: http://marvel.wikia.com/MorgQuote: PM - Namor: http://marvel.wikia.com/Namor_McKenzie_(Earth-616)Quote: EM-Katara: http://www.comicvine.com/katara/29-25622/Quote: Item - Aegis Breastplate: http://marvel.wikia.com/Aegis_(Trey_Rollins)Quote: Location: ThemyscaraQuote: http://www.comicvine.com/paradise-island/34-56187/Here are three flaws that will imho be the downfall of (Sinestrobos God of Trauma) 1) Morg's brutal fearless ferocity: Galactus was confronted by the court executioner (Morg) who had betrayed his own race by executing his own people for those that had defeated them. In the presence of the world-devourer, Morg showed no fear, instead exhibiting a respectful defiance. Impressed with Morg's demeanor and wary after losing several heralds to attacks of conscience, Galactus decided to employ this most "brutal and remorseless" specimen as his latest herald. Morg's state of mind is to carry out (Galactus)'s will no matter the consequences towards others, and being that a yellow ring selects individuals who have the ability to instill great fear, without a question of a doubt, the ring would immediately notice that (Namorg)'s fearless behavior & ruthless brutality is a grade (A) candidate. If (Gorgon) was able to resist (Alex)'s power, then (Morg) can. Trauma's power is based on a foe's fear, he can shapeshift into anything that his target fears, but in this case, I have to reiterate that (Morg) as the brains in the outfit fear's nothing, so this power is useless against him. 2) The Aegis Breastplate Namorg wearing the (Aegis Breastplate) will magically protect him and enable him to surround himself with an impenetrable forcefield that can absorb, release, and redirect energy thrown against him or near him. The(Aegis) or (Namorg) in this case can extend the forcefield around other people and objects within a distance of approximately ten feet. The force field is often invisible & always transparent, and can be reshaped into simple forms such as screens, bubbles, and domes, and has unexplained mystical properties. 3) Power Cosmic Some may say that (Namor) has a weakness, but by having the power cosmic, he'll have (Superhuman Durability: As Morg's tissue was restructured and augmented by the Power Cosmic, his body was practically invulnerable to physical injury. Morg could withstand penetration wounds from all but the most advanced and powerful forms of weaponry. He could withstand tremendous impact forces, falls from ortibal heights, exposure to temperatures as hot as the interior of a star, and powerful energy blasts from the likes of the Silver Surfer without being injured. Morg was also functionally immortal in the sense that he was immune to all known diseases and to the effects of aging. Morg also could survive indefinitely in outer space and no longer required food, oxygen, or water to survive), and with (Katara)'s water abilities, the so called weakness doesn't come in to play! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XmyS4tpuxk&feature=fvw) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcuipgM_jAs) Remember, this fight is on a Island that is surrounded by water and vegetation, water that can be manipulated down to the molecular level and extracted from all plants, moisture in the air, and even from his sweat, plus the (Strength) stacks for (Namorg) in the 200ton range, and the power cosmic added into the pot is going to be (Sinestrobos)'s worst nightmare. Fight As I mentioned above, once (Sinestrobos) tries to instill fear in (Namorg) and notices that his power of (Phobos & Trauma) fear doesn't work on him, he will most likely try to blast him with yellow energy that won't work thanks to the (Aegis Breastplate). His yellow constructs won't be able to do nothing if they can't penetrate the invisible forcefield or the 200ton strength, pounding on them with the cosmic sea axe. Also, remember that (Namorg) can easily shape the forcefield or even incase an opponent and enventually control their body's movement by bloodbending the liquid within a person or animals body. But one thing is certain, with (Morg) being in charge, no matter what (Sinestrobos) throws at him, he's going after his prey, and unless (Sinestrobos) teleports himself away there's no way he's going to contend with (Namorg)'s power. Please be reminded that the longer the battle continues, the worst it is for (Sinestrobos) b/c the yellow ring needs to recharge. Enjoy!
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Subject: Namorg with his cosmic sea axe [Re: Thorion] Posted Tue Jan 12, 2010 at 09:21:56 am EST (Viewed 117 times) | ||
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Incriptus![]() Location: Incriptus Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008 Posts: 4,733 |
Subject: I'll go with LGU [Re: Dark Marvel] Posted Tue Jan 12, 2010 at 10:10:27 am EST (Viewed 106 times) | ||
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Although i'm not sold on the Wolverine + Cable = Uber Cable . . . I understand the idea, but no. I said no yeah, no swaying LGU does win, but i'm sticking with the sum of his parts, not the special whole that was created with that one storyline.
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Subject: I'm thinking Thorion [Re: Dark Marvel] Posted Tue Jan 12, 2010 at 10:11:52 am EST (Viewed 93 times) | ||
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Subject: Counterpoints [Re: Thorion] Posted Tue Jan 12, 2010 at 10:13:36 am EST (Viewed 104 times) | ||
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Quote: Quote: Quote: HatmanQuote: Quote: Name: Sinestrobos, God of TraumaQuote: Quote: Herald: Sinestro (mind)- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SinestroQuote: Quote: PM: Trauma - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trauma_%28comics%29Quote: Quote: EM: Phobos (current) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phobos_%28Marvel_Comics%29Quote: Quote: Item: Senzu Beans - http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Senzu_BeanQuote: Quote: vsQuote: Quote: ThorionQuote: Quote: Namorg the SeamasterQuote: Quote: H - Morg: http://marvel.wikia.com/MorgQuote: Quote: PM - Namor: http://marvel.wikia.com/Namor_McKenzie_(Earth-616)Quote: Quote: EM-Katara: http://www.comicvine.com/katara/29-25622/Quote: Quote: Item - Aegis Breastplate: http://marvel.wikia.com/Aegis_(Trey_Rollins)Quote: Quote: Location: ThemyscaraQuote: Quote: http://www.comicvine.com/paradise-island/34-56187/Quote: Quote: Here are three flaws that will imho be the downfall of (Sinestrobos God of Trauma)Quote: 1) Morg's brutal fearless ferocity: Quote: Galactus was confronted by the court executioner (Morg) who had betrayed his own race by executing his own people for those that had defeated them. In the presence of the world-devourer, Morg showed no fear, instead exhibiting a respectful defiance. Impressed with Morg's demeanor and wary after losing several heralds to attacks of conscience, Galactus decided to employ this most "brutal and remorseless" specimen as his latest herald. Morg's state of mind is to carry out (Galactus)'s will no matter the consequences towards others, and being that a yellow ring selects individuals who have the ability to instill great fear, without a question of a doubt, the ring would immediately notice that (Namorg)'s fearless behavior & ruthless brutality is a grade (A) candidate.If you're suggesting that Morg would be able to override Sinestro's control of his power ring, it can't be done. As shown in his battle with Mongul (who had 10 rings), when Sinestro forged the yellow power rings he ensured they could not be used against him, and proved it by taking control of all 10 of Mongul's rings. Could Morg potentially override a lesser Sinestro Corps member? Maybe. But Sinestro himself, no way. Quote: If (Gorgon) was able to resist (Alex)'s power, then (Morg) can. Quote: Trauma's power is based on a foe's fear, he can shapeshift into anything that his target fears, but in this case, I have to reiterate that (Morg) as the brains in the outfit fear's nothing, so this power is useless against him. Morg may not fear Galactus, but that doesn't mean he doesn't necessarily have fears. Generally when someone is as power hungry as Morg, they fear losing their power. That's all Sinestrobos needs to exploit. Quote: 2) The Aegis BreastplateQuote: Namorg wearing the (Aegis Breastplate) will magically protect him and enable him to surround himself with an impenetrable forcefield that can absorb, release, and redirect energy thrown against him or near him. The(Aegis) or (Namorg) in this case can extend the forcefield around other people and objects within a distance of approximately ten feet. The force field is often invisible & always transparent, and can be reshaped into simple forms such as screens, bubbles, and domes, and has unexplained mystical properties. A Sinestro Corp ring can do all that and much more. One of the abilities of the ring is to allow the wearer to become immaterial (Hal Jordan has been shown to pass through walls many times, and the yellow rings can do everything the green ones can), so the forcefield isn't a big problem. Quote: 3) Power CosmicQuote: Some may say that (Namor) has a weakness, but by having the power cosmic, he'll have (Superhuman Durability: As Morg's tissue was restructured and augmented by the Power Cosmic, his body was practically invulnerable to physical injury. Morg could withstand penetration wounds from all but the most advanced and powerful forms of weaponry. He could withstand tremendous impact forces, falls from ortibal heights, exposure to temperatures as hot as the interior of a star, and powerful energy blasts from the likes of the Silver Surfer without being injured. Morg was also functionally immortal in the sense that he was immune to all known diseases and to the effects of aging. Morg also could survive indefinitely in outer space and no longer required food, oxygen, or water to survive), and with (Katara)'s water abilities, the so called weakness doesn't come in to play! Quote: He may be pretty invulnerable on the outside, but Sinestro is certainly vicious enough to project a construct inside of Namorg if an outer attack isn't working. Quote: Remember, this fight is on a Island that is surrounded by water and vegetation, water that can be manipulated down to the molecular level and extracted from all plants, moisture in the air, and even from his sweat, plus the (Strength) stacks for (Namorg) in the 200ton range, and the power cosmic added into the pot is going to be (Sinestrobos)'s worst nightmare. Sinestro goes up against cosmic powers all the time. Quote: Quote: FightQuote: As I mentioned above, once (Sinestrobos) tries to instill fear in (Namorg) and notices that his power of (Phobos & Trauma) fear doesn't work on him, he will most likely try to blast him with yellow energy that won't work thanks to the (Aegis Breastplate). His yellow constructs won't be able to do nothing if they can't penetrate the invisible forcefield or the 200ton strength, pounding on them with the cosmic sea axe. Also, remember that (Namorg) can easily shape the forcefield or even incase an opponent and enventually control their body's movement by bloodbending the liquid within a person or animals body. But one thing is certain, with (Morg) being in charge, no matter what (Sinestrobos) throws at him, he's going after his prey, and unless (Sinestrobos) teleports himself away there's no way he's going to contend with (Namorg)'s power.While the battle may start on an island, there's no reason it has to stay there when you have two characters (Morg and Sinestro) who spend more time in space than on Earth. Sinestrobos can easily move the battle to space, negating the water advantage. In fact, Sinestrobos could take the battle closer to the sun, where Namorg would get dried out (when you take on a character's powers you also get their weaknesses) and weakened. Quote: Please be reminded that the longer the battle continues, the worst it is for (Sinestrobos) b/c the yellow ring needs to recharge.In the large campaigns Sinestro waged in the Sinestro Corps War he would fight epic, large scale battles without fear of losing his rings charge, he can go for quite awhile before he needs to recharge. And if Sinestro takes damage during the fight he's got the Senzu Beans for an instant recharge of enegy. ~Hat~
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Subject: Hatman's Write-up [Re: Dark Marvel] Posted Tue Jan 12, 2010 at 10:19:16 am EST (Viewed 109 times) | ||
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Quote: HatmanQuote: Name: Sinestrobos, God of TraumaQuote: Herald: Sinestro (mind)- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SinestroQuote: PM: Trauma - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trauma_%28comics%29Quote: EM: Phobos (current) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phobos_%28Marvel_Comics%29Quote: Item: Senzu Beans - http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Senzu_BeanQuote: vsQuote: ThorionQuote: Namorg the SeamasterQuote: H - Morg: http://marvel.wikia.com/MorgQuote: PM - Namor: http://marvel.wikia.com/Namor_McKenzie_(Earth-616)Quote: EM-Katara: http://www.comicvine.com/katara/29-25622/Quote: Item - Aegis Breastplate: http://marvel.wikia.com/Aegis_(Trey_Rollins)Quote: Location: ThemyscaraQuote: http://www.comicvine.com/paradise-island/34-56187/At first it may look like I'm at a disadvantage here, but there are some points I'd like voters to consider. - When you place as much importance on power as Morg, often that character has a fear of losing that power. That is a fear that can be exploited by Sinestrobos. - When you create an amalgam, you don't just get the characters strengths, you get their weaknesses as well. For example, if you combined Superman and Thor, you'd still have the Kryptonite weakness. So in this case, Namorg still has the water weakness. And while the location is an island, what is to stop a space-worthy character like Sinestrobos taking the battle to space? Namorg is more than capable of carrying the battle to space, and from there Sinestrobos can take the fight to the Sun, drying out Namorg and weakening him. - My item is a pouch of Senzu Beans; by eating just one all wounds are healed and the character that ate it is completely refreshed. Sinestrobos will definitely take damage during this fight, but with a single bean can undo all of that damage. - Sinestrobos is far more cunning than Namorg, and if you take a look at Batman as the perfect example, cunning can go a lot further than raw power. Vote Hatman! ~Hat~
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Subject: Thoughts... [Re: Dark Marvel] Posted Tue Jan 12, 2010 at 10:24:15 am EST (Viewed 123 times) | ||
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No amount of water is getting past Sinestrobos shields...Sinestros is also the better tactician and martial artist having a much more military background and proper training. Namorg is a power best though and with his water manipulation he can keep himself constantly powered up and at a physical advantage...the problem is does he have a counter for Sinestrobos power of not only making you see your fears...but making them a reality with Traumas power? I do believe that Morg has fears. That is key here. Honestly...I think Hatman has this one with a very well thought out Amalgam. Hatman wins.
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Subject: Agreed. [Re: Incriptus] Posted Tue Jan 12, 2010 at 10:25:31 am EST (Viewed 92 times) | ||
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Subject: Is it Namor's or Morg's body? [Re: Dark Marvel] Posted Tue Jan 12, 2010 at 10:26:22 am EST (Viewed 103 times) | ||
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Because if its Morg's body why would water add to his strength? To get that advantage wouldn't it have to be Atlantean biology?
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Thorion![]() Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008 Posts: 6,211 |
Subject: It's (Morg)'s body.... [Re: Ragnarok] Posted Tue Jan 12, 2010 at 10:55:02 am EST (Viewed 101 times) | ||
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Quote: Because if its Morg's body why would water add to his strength? To get that advantage wouldn't it have to be Atlantean biology?The point of it being (Morg)'s body is that it is constantly absorbing cosmic energy, and that it can also be replenished by water, doubleling his strength (Double the power, double the hurt) ![]() ![]()
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Subject: Re: It's (Morg)'s body.... [Re: Thorion] Posted Tue Jan 12, 2010 at 11:00:03 am EST (Viewed 106 times) | ||
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Quote: Quote: Quote: Because if its Morg's body why would water add to his strength? To get that advantage wouldn't it have to be Atlantean biology?Quote: The point of it being (Morg)'s body is that it is constantly absorbing cosmic energy, and that it can also be replenished by water, doubleling his strength (Double the power, double the hurt)![]() It also means that the weakness is there to be exploited, say by taking the battle to outer space where there is no water. Namorg would get weaker without water around. ~Hat~
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Subject: Okay, but... [Re: Thorion] Posted Tue Jan 12, 2010 at 11:00:24 am EST (Viewed 103 times) | ||
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My point is, if it's not Namor's body then all water will do is get him wet. The strength boost from water is biological.
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Subject: Re: It's (Morg)'s body.... [Re: Hatman] Posted Tue Jan 12, 2010 at 11:02:21 am EST (Viewed 103 times) | ||
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No, I don't think so. I think its a moot point as without Atlantean physiology the amalgam will get neither stronger or weaker in the prescence or absence of water. It's like drafting Superman but using Thor's body in the amalgam. There would be no kryptonite weakness because that's a funcion of Kryptonian biology, not his powerset.
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Subject: Re: It's (Morg)'s body.... [Re: Ragnarok] Posted Tue Jan 12, 2010 at 11:11:07 am EST (Viewed 102 times) | ||
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Quote: No, I don't think so. I think its a moot point as without Atlantean physiology the amalgam will get neither stronger or weaker in the prescence or absence of water. It's like drafting Superman but using Thor's body in the amalgam. There would be no kryptonite weakness because that's a funcion of Kryptonian biology, not his powerset.Except we never picked bodies in this tournament, just minds. As such, I would assume the body is a composite body, embodying the strengths and weaknesses of each character. As such, the water weakness would still exist in Namorg. Katara is a good way to negate that weakness, unless the battle is taken somewhere where there is no water available; in this case, it's a straight shot up to outer space. ~Hat~
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Subject: Re: It's (Morg)'s body.... [Re: Hatman] Posted Tue Jan 12, 2010 at 11:15:41 am EST (Viewed 100 times) | ||
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We didn't pick bodies? Why not? That seems kinda odd. Well, okay then I guess I've been ranting about nothing. At least now I can vote. Thanks for the info.
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Subject: Re: It's (Morg)'s body.... (DM can you weigh in here) [Re: Ragnarok] Posted Tue Jan 12, 2010 at 11:18:52 am EST (Viewed 99 times) | ||
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Quote: We didn't pick bodies? Why not? That seems kinda odd. Well, okay then I guess I've been ranting about nothing. At least now I can vote. Thanks for the info.As I recall we were told to pick minds but I don't think we were told to pick bodies. Can you confirm or deny that DM? ~Hat~
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Subject: I think Thorion wins. [Re: Dark Marvel] Posted Tue Jan 12, 2010 at 11:27:05 am EST (Viewed 11 times) | ||
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if the fight lasts more than a few seconds though Hatman's chances increase dramatically.
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Subject: It's Sebastian Shaw not Shinobi Shaw - completely different powerset! [Re: Dark Marvel] Posted Tue Jan 12, 2010 at 11:29:04 am EST (Viewed 2 times) | ||
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still on the fence for the moment though.
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Subject: The million $ ? here is (CAN HE PHASE THRUE A MAGIC WEAPON AS POWERFUL AS THE AEGIS) [Re: Hatman] Posted Tue Jan 12, 2010 at 11:36:51 am EST (Viewed 97 times) | ||
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Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: HatmanQuote: Quote: Name: Sinestrobos, God of TraumaQuote: Quote: Herald: Sinestro (mind)- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SinestroQuote: Quote: PM: Trauma - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trauma_%28comics%29Quote: Quote: EM: Phobos (current) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phobos_%28Marvel_Comics%29Quote: Quote: Item: Senzu Beans - http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Senzu_BeanQuote: Quote: vsQuote: Quote: ThorionQuote: Quote: Namorg the SeamasterQuote: Quote: H - Morg: http://marvel.wikia.com/MorgQuote: Quote: PM - Namor: http://marvel.wikia.com/Namor_McKenzie_(Earth-616)Quote: Quote: EM-Katara: http://www.comicvine.com/katara/29-25622/Quote: Quote: Item - Aegis Breastplate: http://marvel.wikia.com/Aegis_(Trey_Rollins)Quote: Quote: Location: ThemyscaraQuote: Quote: http://www.comicvine.com/paradise-island/34-56187/Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: Here are three flaws that will imho be the downfall of (Sinestrobos God of Trauma)Quote: Quote: 1) Morg's brutal fearless ferocity: Quote: Quote: Galactus was confronted by the court executioner (Morg) who had betrayed his own race by executing his own people for those that had defeated them. In the presence of the world-devourer, Morg showed no fear, instead exhibiting a respectful defiance. Impressed with Morg's demeanor and wary after losing several heralds to attacks of conscience, Galactus decided to employ this most "brutal and remorseless" specimen as his latest herald. Morg's state of mind is to carry out (Galactus)'s will no matter the consequences towards others, and being that a yellow ring selects individuals who have the ability to instill great fear, without a question of a doubt, the ring would immediately notice that (Namorg)'s fearless behavior & ruthless brutality is a grade (A) candidate.Quote: If you're suggesting that Morg would be able to override Sinestro's control of his power ring, it can't be done(I never said he could, what I did say was that the ring would probably sense the fear & brutality of Morg). As shown in his battle with Mongul (who had 10 rings), when Sinestro forged the yellow power rings he ensured they could not be used against him, and proved it by taking control of all 10 of Mongul's rings. Could Morg potentially override a lesser Sinestro Corps member? Maybe. But Sinestro himself, no way.Quote: Quote: If (Gorgon) was able to resist (Alex)'s power, then (Morg) can. Quote: Quote: Trauma's power is based on a foe's fear, he can shapeshift into anything that his target fears, but in this case, I have to reiterate that (Morg) as the brains in the outfit fear's nothing, so this power is useless against him. Quote: Morg may not fear Galactus, but that doesn't mean he doesn'tQuote: necessarily have fears. Generally when someone is as power hungry asQuote: Morg, they fear losing their power. That's all Sinestrobos needs toQuote: exploit.Quote: Quote: 2) The Aegis BreastplateQuote: Quote: Namorg wearing the (Aegis Breastplate) will magically protect him and enable him to surround himself with an impenetrable forcefield that can absorb, release, and redirect energy thrown against him or near him. The(Aegis) or (Namorg) in this case can extend the forcefield around other people and objects within a distance of approximately ten feet. The force field is often invisible & always transparent, and can be reshaped into simple forms such as screens, bubbles, and domes, and has unexplained mystical properties. Quote: A Sinestro Corp ring can do all that and much more. One of the abilities of the ring is to allow the wearer to become immaterial (Hal Jordan has been shown to pass through walls many times, and the yellow rings can do everything the green ones can), so the forcefield isn't a big problem. Walls are one thing but a magical breastplate I don't think so, and here is an example: (Wonder Woman's Indistructible Gauntlets: Modeled after the shackles the Amazons were once enslaved with. The gauntlets were formed from the remains of Zeus's legendary Aegis shield, and were re-forged for her use by Hephaestus. Diana's superhuman reflexes enable her to use the gauntlets to easily deflect projectiles (such as bullets) and powerful energy blasts from beings such as Ares and Darkseid. She is even fast enough to protect herself from multi-vector attacks. At close-range the gauntlets block blades, weapons and punches. In some stories, Diana has used the gauntlets as a dual defensive/offensive weapon, redirecting energy blasts back to their point of origin or other targets. They are even able to deflect Darkseid's energy attacks. When crossed, the gauntlets generate a remnant of the Aegis itself, forming an impenetrable barrier just in front of them which allows Diana to protect herself and those behind her from area attacks. With bracelets forged by Hephastus, Wonder Woman boosts her resistance to injury with her indestructible bracelets. She is able to deflect attacks that might otherwise cause her considerable injury but she can only deflect attacks she is aware of. It has recently been revealed that the braclets, as they were made from Zeus' legendary Aegis, have the capability to discharge lightning from them. Zeus himself confirmed this revelation, stating that the code was merely "unlocked" by Diana) Quote: Quote: 3) Power CosmicQuote: Quote: Some may say that (Namor) has a weakness, but by having the power cosmic, he'll have (Superhuman Durability: As Morg's tissue was restructured and augmented by the Power Cosmic, his body was practically invulnerable to physical injury. Morg could withstand penetration wounds from all but the most advanced and powerful forms of weaponry. He could withstand tremendous impact forces, falls from ortibal heights, exposure to temperatures as hot as the interior of a star, and powerful energy blasts from the likes of the Silver Surfer without being injured. Morg was also functionally immortal in the sense that he was immune to all known diseases and to the effects of aging. Morg also could survive indefinitely in outer space and no longer required food, oxygen, or water to survive), and with (Katara)'s water abilities, the so called weakness doesn't come in to play! Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: He may be pretty invulnerable on the outside, but Sinestro is certainly vicious enough to project a construct inside of Namorg if an outer attack isn't working.Quote: Quote: Remember, this fight is on a Island that is surrounded by water and vegetation, water that can be manipulated down to the molecular level and extracted from all plants, moisture in the air, and even from his sweat, plus the (Strength) stacks for (Namorg) in the 200ton range, and the power cosmic added into the pot is going to be (Sinestrobos)'s worst nightmare. Quote: Sinestro goes up against cosmic powers all the time.(So does Morg) Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: FightQuote: Quote: As I mentioned above, once (Sinestrobos) tries to instill fear in (Namorg) and notices that his power of (Phobos & Trauma) fear doesn't work on him, he will most likely try to blast him with yellow energy that won't work thanks to the (Aegis Breastplate). His yellow constructs won't be able to do nothing if they can't penetrate the invisible forcefield or the 200ton strength, pounding on them with the cosmic sea axe. Also, remember that (Namorg) can easily shape the forcefield or even incase an opponent and enventually control their body's movement by bloodbending the liquid within a person or animals body. But one thing is certain, with (Morg) being in charge, no matter what (Sinestrobos) throws at him, he's going after his prey, and unless (Sinestrobos) teleports himself away there's no way he's going to contend with (Namorg)'s power.Quote: While the battle may start on an island, there's no reason it has to stay there when you have two characters (Morg and Sinestro) who spend more time in space than on Earth. Sinestrobos can easily move the battle to space, negating the water advantage (Are you even considering katara's water manipultion powers, and why would the fight be taken into outerspace, and not in the oceans deph! Because the tourney rules never stated that if a battle is on a Island that the combatants could take it into space, but I understand what you mean). In fact, Sinestrobos could take the battle closer to the sun (Again this fight is on Themyscara buddy, not the sun![]() Quote: Quote: Please be reminded that the longer the battle continues, the worst it is for (Sinestrobos) b/c the yellow ring needs to recharge.Quote: In the large campaigns Sinestro waged in the Sinestro Corps War he would fight epic, large scale battles without fear of losing his rings charge, he can go for quite awhile before he needs to recharge. And if Sinestro takes damage during the fight he's got the Senzu Beans for an instant recharge of enegy.(And I have the power cosmic + water rejuvination + katara's healing ability ![]() Quote: ~Hat~Quote: ![]()
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Subject: Rags this is an "Amalgam Tourney [Re: Ragnarok] Posted Tue Jan 12, 2010 at 11:49:03 am EST (Viewed 117 times) | ||
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Quote: My point is, if it's not Namor's body then all water will do is get him wet. The strength boost from water is biological. You get all the powers of each character and their weakness, but you have to be smart to counter balance the weakness or make something up for it ![]() Cosmic Power bolsters (Morg)'s body so he doesn't need to breathe, eat, or sleep. Namor breathes oxygen & water, but the cosmic power negates his water deprevation needs and water provides healing and strength, katara's water bending adds double (Strength & Healing) ![]()
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Subject: Re: Rags this is an "Amalgam Tourney [Re: Thorion] Posted Tue Jan 12, 2010 at 11:50:59 am EST (Viewed 109 times) | ||
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Quote: Quote: Quote: My point is, if it's not Namor's body then all water will do is get him wet. The strength boost from water is biological. Quote: You get all the powers of each character and their weakness, but you have to be smart to counter balance the weakness or make something up for it![]() Quote: Cosmic Power bolsters (Morg)'s body so he doesn't need to breathe, eat, or sleep.Quote: Namor breathes oxygen & water, but the cosmic power negates his water deprevation needs and water provides healing and strength, katara's water bending adds double (Strength & Healing) Or you could argue that Namor's water weakness saps the energy of the amalgam...Superman/Thor would still be weak to kryptonite, so Namor/Morg should still be dependent on water. Katara helps balance the water weakness, not Morg. ~Hat~
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Subject: THE BATTLE IS ON THE ISLAND OF ''THEMYSCARA" AND NOT THE SUN [Re: Hatman] Posted Tue Jan 12, 2010 at 11:51:02 am EST (Viewed 92 times) | ||
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Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: Because if its Morg's body why would water add to his strength? To get that advantage wouldn't it have to be Atlantean biology?Quote: Quote: The point of it being (Morg)'s body is that it is constantly absorbing cosmic energy, and that it can also be replenished by water, doubleling his strength (Double the power, double the hurt) Quote: It also means that the weakness is there to be exploited, say by taking the battle to outer space where there is no water. Namorg would get weaker without water around.Quote: ~Hat~![]()
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Subject: What rule states we can't fly straight up and change the battlefield? Happens in comics all the time [Re: Thorion] Posted Tue Jan 12, 2010 at 11:53:00 am EST (Viewed 103 times) | ||
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Subject: Or the battle can just stay above the island, away from the water; either way, both characters have flight, no reason it'd stay on the ground [Re: Hatman] Posted Tue Jan 12, 2010 at 11:54:03 am EST (Viewed 92 times) | ||
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Subject: I know Thorion, I'm a veteran of many DM tournaments... [Re: Thorion] Posted Tue Jan 12, 2010 at 11:54:51 am EST (Viewed 105 times) | ||
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And I stand by my position. Now Hatman said that DM changed things this tournament where we aren't drafting a body, just a mind. I'm waiting for DM to sound off on this before I vote.
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Subject: And who says (Namorg) has to go into space to fight, and not wait in the botom of the ocean floor (Thank You)! [Re: Hatman] Posted Tue Jan 12, 2010 at 11:56:29 am EST (Viewed 104 times) | ||
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Subject: Morg doesn't strike me as the type to sit around and wait, and Sinestro isn't stupid enough to enter into the enemies element [Re: Thorion] Posted Tue Jan 12, 2010 at 11:57:40 am EST (Viewed 101 times) | ||
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