My gosh if my favorit character is going to be taken out (god forbid) let it be by a foce as powerful and huge as the one that is assembled against Asgard.
Thor took a blast that would wreck any high level character after smacking Sentry to another zip code. At this point just loosing to Sentry would not be a low showing, as Sentry just pawned MolM.
Really look at it, you have a bunch of CL 30 worriers (asgadians) and Thor against well every other bad guy possible.
Thor has been pawned by Magneto and Utron alone in the past, if you ask me this is a high showing for old Goldie Locks.
 
Cmon why are yall crying let me know cause I dont friggin see it.

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And as a test of endurance and durability it's not bad at all. However, it's also one of the stupidest and inept depictions of Thor I've seen in awhile (well since Rulk 5). It's not about Thor getting taken down, that's happened before, it's about getting taken out after throwing one punch. That's it. That was Thor's defense of Asgard. One punch. That's whats so silly. When Surtur invaded Asgard (and I think we'll all agree Surtur > UFoes + Green Goblin) Thor got trounced but was able to mount some offense and show his warrior spirit. Here? One punch.

Comics need a hook just like shows, somthing to get you to pick up the next book.
He threw one punch....so far. Also it is not just the Ufoes + Iron patriot Vs Thor. Did you see the speech that Ares was giving it was over three thousand bodies in that hanger. one of whom was Sentry who should by all accounts take out Thor by himself.

True, true, and I'm sure Thor will have his time in the Sun before Siege is over. However, it's just not the style of writing I enjoy. You mention yourself that Osbourne has an army of thousands invading Asgard, yet, if you look at the previews for Siege #2, a bloodied Thor is rescued by two humans in a jeep with a bazooka. Reconcile that one for me. Bendis just fails to deliver when it comes to action. But, on the bright side he is saving me lots of money since I don't have to buy this story now.

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My gosh if my favorit character is going to be taken out (god forbid) let it be by a foce as powerful and huge as the one that is assembled against Asgard.

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Thor took a blast that would wreck any high level character after smacking Sentry to another zip code. At this point just loosing to Sentry would not be a low showing, as Sentry just pawned MolM.

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Really look at it, you have a bunch of CL 30 worriers (asgadians) and Thor against well every other bad guy possible.

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Cmon why are yall crying let me know cause I dont friggin see it.

Presumably you never followed the JMS relaunch?

It's not the method, it's the execution that Jars so badly.
I've no great personal investment in Thor but by any standard Siege's takedown just didn't convince at all. The issue started with Volstagg enduring a similar level of firepower just fine, It may have been the writing at fault or it may have been the artist but if Thor is still perfectly concious and standing after the explosion and is lucid enough that he can threaten the goon squad only to get apparently floored by a poor version of Iron Man.... well, it's not very flattering.

The revamp of Thor gave us so much, not so much his power being notably upped, just the integrity and sheer respect given to the character and the way he was approached by the writer/artist. This was mythic stuff.
The succesful Characters like Thor, The Hulk or even Majestic flourish by the respect the publisher showers them with. That doesn't just mean toplevel showings and an ackowledgement of their supremacy in their universe it means showing you as the publisher take that characters status as the companys powerhouse and topdog seriously. That's what the JMS revamp gave us.
So after his very public exit from the book over the notable fact Marvel wanted Thor up front & centre again in the MU it appears to have very unsavory implications that Thor will inevitably be treated as story fodder and a second fiddle dumb powerhouse as he was during the 90s and beyond.... no one really wants that cavalier attitude to the character to return as apart from diluting him it was a good part of what degraded his popularity and eventually got him cancelled. No one wants a supposed company powerhouse who is seemingly inadequate to whatever the latest threat or johnny-come-lately superhero might be, that's why Sentry should sensibly go at this point, Thor is Marvels original powerhouse and Go-To strong-guy and that integrity needs supported by Marvel after such a successful & popular re-imagining. They are seemingly wasting all that good work and falling into bad habits with the character.

You can maybe look to his defeat by the Red Hulk as the forebearer to this latest incident, while humiliatingly crushing at least that defeat had a comeback with Thor scoring a win of sorts against this extremely powerful and enigmatic new villain.
With the U-Foes and Osborn though it's a different dynamic and a set of opponents he really should have been able to handle based on past history and showings....

JLAvengers comes to mind. Yes, I went there.

I really did not know where to place him as far as power goes. There were some good feats but as far as I saw the biggest feat was wrecking Iron man, and as far as I am aware he should have done that anyway, upgrade or no.
 
But really volstagg took a big blast...I was not convinced. I think he could have been in the parifarary of the blast that destroyed Soldier feild(sorry bears fans) as he was not the target of that blast.
 
thor on the other hand was the direct target of a same level blast and he was still standing. Then he got hit......OK should he be so powerful that he never gets hit? yes the reporter said Thor was down but that is a cliffhanger. garantee he will be on his feet next issue and will do some damage.

Levitating Asgard and creating that big crevasse impressed me. Plus there's no doubt he's bulletproof nowadays.
 
The Iron Man fight, though I agree with the outcome, seems kinda weird, as Tony's suit IIRC is not metal, it's cloth with forcefields, nor is it weak to electromagnetic pulses.

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Max Man: No that wasn't the same at all. The U-Foes weren't trying to kill Volstagg. They were just there to pick a fight long enough to get some innocent people killed, have it be blamed on Volstagg, then disappear. If they had cut loose with everything they had and killed Volstagg, that would have messed up the plan.

I have this issue and in no way was Thor in trouble. In fact he was searching for a way to subdue her without killing her. You totally misrepresented the entire fight.

I agree but I think the story is not over just yet, there are 3 issues to go.



There is no end to the Sentry madness. One issue he beats Molecule Man and the next he gets smacked into Nebraska by Thor.



The bulk of the Asgardians may be CL30 Warriors but they have weapons and other powers that are conveniently not mentioned. Karnilla is missing, Enchantress is missing, Frey is missing, Hermod is missing, Tyr is missing, Harokin and the Einhjar (Valhalla) are missing. The Valkyrie and the Valkries are missing so I see a lot of missing gods who could absolutely kill Normans Osbornes forces. Imagine a few hundred or thousand Luke Cages with magical weapons defending themselves. 




Thor has a few low showing against Magneto and other showing where Thor has absolutely beaten Magneto like a drum. As far as Ultron is concerned Thor is the one Avenger who can fight this team buster on his own.  







Because you are seeing through Reedification glasses. Thor has been treated bad lately by being beaten by Rulk and now Osborne and his cronnies.
 

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The hypocracy of 1/2 the things Thor said was astounding. People just seem upset his power upgrade seems to have been taken away...like happens to almsot every character.

I find it hard to feel sorry for fans who bublled with glee when others are disrespected by how Thor treats them, especially when I don't think Thor was treated badly here at all.

It was a complete disprepect for Iron Man actually...yes he should be the underdog by a fair margin...but beating him with electricity when every other time Thor has used it led to Thor tasting a powered up Iron Man?
Thor post Oemring has been all over the place and hard to judge...but a normal Thor has been beaten by less then this magnitude of force before...JMS just isn't writing him at the expense of other characters now.

Can you imagine Hulk or Sentry being taken down like Thor? I cant! Ask Bendis or Hulk fanboys Pak or Loeb whether Hulk would have been KOed like Thor was. What do you imagine their answer would be? This to me is the problem many Thor fans have, including me.

The Marvel gods are simply no different to super-powered humans - there are many humans more powerful than individual gods and their immortality/longevity is not even a factor in any fights. What sort of skills could humans develop if they lived several millennium? The gods don't seem to have any more skills than the mortal humans have. It seems all Osborne needs to do is drop the Sentry or the Hulk into Asgard and either one could by themselves beat all the Asgardians. Do you remember the 'Hulk vs' DVD?

Marvel history has been re-written to include a Superman like clone in the Sentry who if he took out Molecule Man (I did not read this myself), one of the most powerful beings in the universe, he is simply too powerful for anyone including Thor and the Hulk. The Hulk fanboys have evolved the Hulk's powers over the years so that he is no longer the classic Hulk (e.g. healing ability, no need to breathe, enhanced speed, invulnerability to psychic and magical attacks). Hulk's evolution has led to the ridiculous statement by Pak that Odin-powered Thor was lucky he wasn't fighting WWH instead of the Sentry. Odin, who at one time was considered one of the most powerful beings in the Marvel universe is now seeminly second-rate. Thor has recently reverted back to classic power levels. Thor, outside of mainline Marvel is simply not rated with other powerhouses. This is clear in the Ultimate universe, the Heroes Reborn universe and now in the animated universe where Hulk is shown to beat Thor 'easily' every time. Will the future Avengers movie be any different? I doubt it.

There is a new status quo and Thor fans have to accept that he is no longer at the top of power pyramid in the Marvel universe and it is unlikely that he will ever be again. I hope I am wrong.

I do not remember Magneto pawning Thor in the 616, he did in the ultimate universe, but alot of folks beat Thor there. Ultron has beat Thor around but they have never fought one on one that I remember.

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Yeah DC hyped up their own mythology and iconicism by "creating" the trinity concept and shoving it down our throats as much as they could. Marvel is kinda doing the same now/celebrating the history of their characters. I dont think its any less valid than what DC does.
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Thor survived a lot more than this in the past.

...but thor is still KOed.  And even after the MAria Hill Bazooka attack, and all the machine gun fire within the vicinity, and that guy tugging at him, Thor is still out cold.  So, ummm, Thor being down, but getting back up, won't happen immediately.
 
Which is kind of a really bad thing, if you think about it.  Superman KOed Thor, but he still managed to get up fairly quickly, and he even questioned Superman's fitness to continue fighting against the main villain.  Also in Red Hulk, Thor wasn't even KOed.  He fell, no doubt, was hurt, but he immediately got up, and vowed revenge.  So, if we compare Busiek's, Loeb's and Bendis' Thor treatment, baldy's Thor is actually far worse than the other two.

Sentry was taken out by a kree gun of all things (then he reassembled himself, but that's a different story) and Hulk, during WWH none the less, stalemated Juggernaut like, virtually, every time before. Oh yes,  they would be taken out just like Thor was!

I stand by what i said, Thor got far worse showings, even under Simonson.