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Subject: Who is the "best there is" at what they do? Posted Sun Jan 24, 2010 at 10:51:19 pm EST (Viewed 163 times) |
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Yeah, I know Wolverine says that ad nauseam, but I'm putting together a list of common comic book abilities and I notice that Wolverine doesn't rate even near the top on most of them. I've tried to place these abilities in alphabetical order, and if I've missed any I apologize, and please feel free to add. Also, I know my list is kind of Marvel-heavy, that's just who I read more of.   Please feel free to any any names you think are appropriate, and if you like where they and others rate on a scale of 1 to 100. Best Acrobat I put Spider-Man on top here, with honorable mention to Daredevil, Captain America, and Nightwing Best Detective In this category, Batman's (Bruce Wayne) the best, with Dick Grayson coming in second. I'd also give a nod to all the investigative reporters in each universe, many of whom don't have superpowers. This includes Lois Lane, Jimmy Olsen, Ben Urich, etc. Best Energy projector This is a hard one for me to figure out. As many energy projector as there are in comics, there doesn't seem to be a general consensus over which ones are the most powerful. Superman? Thor? Green Lantern? Cyclops? Iron Man? Does Iron Man even count as an energy projector since he does it using machinery? Fastest Flash of course. In fact he's so fast that there aren't even many good stories about him now. Best Flier Just like energy projection, this is a hard one to figure out. I've noticed that the two most overused powers in comics are flying and throwing zaps. Best at Healing I think it's Wolverine, with the Hulk a close second. Best Improviser Spider-Man shows this in his solo books more often than anyone else. After that, I'd go with Captain America, especially while he's leading a team. Best Inventor Reed Richards in first place. Hank Pym, Tony Stark and Doom tie for second. Best Leader Captain America hands down. He's both inspirational and leads by example. (Something Superman btw is not so good at.) Most invulnerable Superman, Hulk, and Juggernaut. Put those 3 in any order you like. Most magical Thor, Doctor Strange, Doctor Fate, Loki. Best Power suit user Iron Man. Doctor Doom may often have a better suit, having the resources of an entire nation to utilize, but Iron Man will use his suit more effectively. Richest Bruce Wayne, Tony Stark, Lex Luthor, Norman Osborn, Doctor Doom. Place those in whatever order you want. Stealthiest Daredevil. Since stealth is more about being silent than being non-odorous, Wolverine can only get second place at best. After that, Batman, Nightwing, Electra, etc. Strongest The Hulk, then Superman Best Tracker This is the only one I can think of where Wolverine comes in first. Unless you mean tracking as a detective does, in which case Logan would be way behind Batman. | |
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Subject: Re: Who is the best there is at what they do? [Re: Happy Hogan] Posted Sun Jan 24, 2010 at 11:03:19 pm EST (Viewed 141 times) |
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Best Acrobat I put Spider-Man on top here, with honorable mention to Daredevil, Captain America, and Nightwing Don't forget Nightcrawler. Best Flier Just like energy projection, this is a hard one to figure out. I've noticed that the two most overused powers in comics are flying and throwing zaps. Perhaps judge by where they are limited to flying. In this case, Heralds can fly in space - and hyperspace - and even through time. Best at Healing I think it's Wolverine, with the Hulk a close second. Don't forget Madcap - who beats them both. Best Improviser Spider-Man shows this in his solo books more often than anyone else. After that, I'd go with Captain America, especially while he's leading a team. I'd like to throw a vote in for the Punisher. Best Inventor Reed Richards in first place. Hank Pym, Tony Stark and Doom tie for second. Plus, it's kinda Forge's whole thing. Best Leader Captain America hands down. He's both inspirational and leads by example. (Something Superman btw is not so good at.) Wholeheartedly agree. Richest Bruce Wayne, Tony Stark, Lex Luthor, Norman Osborn, Doctor Doom. Place those in whatever order you want. Here's my order: Annihilus Doctor Doom The Mandarin Tony Stark, Lex Luthor, Norman Osborne The Kingpin (at his height) Warren Worthington III and Janet van Dyne Stealthiest Daredevil. Since stealth is more about being silent than being non-odorous, Wolverine can only get second place at best. After that, Batman, Nightwing, Electra, etc. I'm throwing a vote in for the Spot! Strongest The Hulk, then Superman I'd say Superman is above Hulk when both are at base levels, but Hulk will get stronger and surpass Supes. Best Tracker This is the only one I can think of where Wolverine comes in first. Unless you mean tracking as a detective does, in which case Logan would be way behind Batman. Or there was Caliban (although only mutants). | |
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Subject: Re: Who is the "best there is" at what they do? [Re: Happy Hogan] Posted Sun Jan 24, 2010 at 11:18:02 pm EST (Viewed 130 times) |
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Quote: Best AcrobatQuote: I put Spider-Man on top here, with honorable mention to Daredevil, Captain America, and NightwingSpider-Man is probably best. I'd give Daredevil more than an "honorable", he's actually very competative with Spider-Man, losing this contest by inches as actually wrtten. Quote: Best Energy projector Quote: This is a hard one for me to figure out. As many energy projector as there are in comics, there doesn't seem to be a general consensus over which ones are the most powerful. Superman? Thor? Green Lantern? Cyclops? Iron Man? Does Iron Man even count as an energy projector since he does it using machinery?Magneto and Green Lantern are probably the two biggest name energy-projectors. Quote: Best Flier Quote: Just like energy projection, this is a hard one to figure out. I've noticed that the two most overused powers in comics are flying and throwing zaps. Angel is probably the most skilled at using pure flight in combat. Quote: Best at Healing Quote: I think it's Wolverine, with the Hulk a close second. Hulk would actually be above him these days, as would Madcap and Dracula. Quote: Best Improviser Quote: Spider-Man shows this in his solo books more often than anyone else. After that, I'd go with Captain America, especially while he's leading a team.I wouldn't rate Cap high at this as actually written. He gets lauded as it, but he's failed the show-don't-tell test imo, and failed it badly. He mostly just attacks in fairly straight-forward manner and somehow becomes strong and tough enough to win anyway. I'd put Iron Man above Cap as actually written, and by a comfortable margin. Quote: Best Inventor Quote: Reed Richards in first place. Hank Pym, Tony Stark and Doom tie for second.Quote: Best Leader Quote: Captain America hands down. He's both inspirational and leads by example. (Something Superman btw is not so good at.)I'd say Cyclops displayed better actual clever tactics. Cap mostly just shouts hit em hard and hit em fast and then gets praised as brilliant. Quote: Most invulnerable Quote: Superman, Hulk, and Juggernaut. Put those 3 in any order you like.Quote: Most magical Quote: Thor, Doctor Strange, Doctor Fate, Loki. Quote: Best Power suit user Quote: Iron Man. Doctor Doom may often have a better suit, having the resources of an entire nation to utilize, but Iron Man will use his suit more effectively.Quote: Richest Quote: Bruce Wayne, Tony Stark, Lex Luthor, Norman Osborn, Doctor Doom. Place those in whatever order you want.Quote: Stealthiest Quote: Daredevil. Since stealth is more about being silent than being non-odorous, Wolverine can only get second place at best. After that, Batman, Nightwing, Electra, etc.Quote: Strongest Quote: The Hulk, then SupermanQuote: Best Tracker Quote: This is the only one I can think of where Wolverine comes in first. Unless you mean tracking as a detective does, in which case Logan would be way behind Batman.Quote: ![]() | |
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Subject: Cool post... [Re: Happy Hogan] Posted Mon Jan 25, 2010 at 10:50:20 am EST (Viewed 104 times) |
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I'll mention people you didn't... Best Acrobat *Nightcrawler Best Detective *Thanos - strange answer, but he does solve universal mysteries. Best Energy projector *Surfer - power and a ton of versatility and skill. Fastest *The Runner. Best Flier *Ikarus should be. Best at Healing I think it's Wolverine, with the Hulk a close second. *Continuity has shown it's the other way around. Best Improviser Spider-Man shows this in his solo books more often than anyone else. After that, I'd go with Captain America, especially while he's leading a team. *Good picks. Punisher also improvises well. And Batman. Best Inventor *Tom Thumb is underrated. And so is Banner/Leader. *Runs away* ![]() Best Leader *Warlock. Most invulnerable Superman, Hulk, and Juggernaut. Put those 3 in any order you like. *Juggs wins. That sounded a little sexist. Juggs win. Ah. Better. Most magical *Doctor Strange. Actually, the Strange construct, Paradox. Best Power suit user Iron Man. *agree. Richest *Also Kingpin. Stealthiest *Bendis. Strongest The Hulk, then Superman *PC Validus. He one shots PC clones. Best Tracker *Kraven. Also Prometheus from the Pantheon. And SS. | |
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Subject: Re: Who is the "best there is" at what they do? [Re: Happy Hogan] Posted Mon Jan 25, 2010 at 11:04:53 am EST (Viewed 111 times) |
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Quote: Best at Healing Quote: I think it's Wolverine, with the Hulk a close second. Wolverine seemed to think grey Hulk's was notably superior to his own healing, and the Hulk's healing has only gone up since those days. Of course, Deadpool trumps either of them. Quote: Most invulnerable Quote: Superman, Hulk, and Juggernaut. Put those 3 in any order you like.Juggernaut is comfortably superior to either. Classic savage Hulk would have been competitive with Superman in this department, but nowadays not so much. Supes ties with Surfer for second in "hard" durability. Quote: Richest Quote: Bruce Wayne, Tony Stark, Lex Luthor, Norman Osborn, Doctor Doom. Place those in whatever order you want.Namor is richer than any of them. Possibly most of them put together. Quote: Stealthiest Quote: Daredevil. Since stealth is more about being silent than being non-odorous, Wolverine can only get second place at best. After that, Batman, Nightwing, Electra, etc.Wolverine snuck up on Daredevil. He was asleep, but still. Quote: Best Tracker Quote: This is the only one I can think of where Wolverine comes in first. Unless you mean tracking as a detective does, in which case Logan would be way behind Batman."The best there is at what I do...." refers to killing people rather than any one physical asset I think. Or getting missions done by whatever ugly means necessary. "....but what I do isn't very nice, bub." Cheers. ![]() ![]() ![]() | |
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Subject: Re: Who is the "best there is" at what they do? [Re: Happy Hogan] Posted Mon Jan 25, 2010 at 01:17:28 pm EST (Viewed 108 times) |
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Quote: Best AcrobatQuote: I put Spider-Man on top here, with honorable mention to Daredevil, Captain America, and NightwingI'd add the Beast as well. He may not be Spidey level but he's beter than Daredevil, Cap, or Nightwing. Quote: Best Detective Quote: In this category, Batman's (Bruce Wayne) the best, with Dick Grayson coming in second. I'd also give a nod to all the investigative reporters in each universe, many of whom don't have superpowers. This includes Lois Lane, Jimmy Olsen, Ben Urich, etc.Yeah, hard to argue with Batman. I'd give John Constantine honorable mention, but his methods involve magic which may not qualify as purely detective skills. Quote: Best Energy projector Quote: This is a hard one for me to figure out. As many energy projector as there are in comics, there doesn't seem to be a general consensus over which ones are the most powerful. Superman? Thor? Green Lantern? Cyclops? Iron Man? Does Iron Man even count as an energy projector since he does it using machinery?The heralds, Surfer in particular, have to get the nod here. An honorable mention to Pulsar. Quote: Fastest Quote: Flash of course. In fact he's so fast that there aren't even many good stories about him now.Yeah, that's an easy one. Quote: Best Flier Quote: Just like energy projection, this is a hard one to figure out. I've noticed that the two most overused powers in comics are flying and throwing zaps. Not really sure what best flier means. Fastest, most manueverable, or something else. I think Supes is a safe bet here. A good combo of speed, manueverability, and experience. Quote: Best at Healing Quote: I think it's Wolverine, with the Hulk a close second. I favor Deadpool. Quote: Best Improviser Quote: Spider-Man shows this in his solo books more often than anyone else. After that, I'd go with Captain America, especially while he's leading a team.I think this one goes to Hawkeye. He's improvised wins over the Grandmaster, Abomination, and She-Hulk. I know of no other street with that kind of record. Quote: Best Inventor Quote: Reed Richards in first place. Hank Pym, Tony Stark and Doom tie for second.Forge has to be in there somewhere, but yeah Reed or Doom is number one. Quote: Best Leader Quote: Captain America hands down. He's both inspirational and leads by example. (Something Superman btw is not so good at.)Yeah, Cap gets it. Quote: Most invulnerable Quote: Superman, Hulk, and Juggernaut. Put those 3 in any order you like.Is durability different from healing factor? I think so and so I'd drop Hulk on the list. Juggernaut would be my vote. Quote: Most magical Quote: Thor, Doctor Strange, Doctor Fate, Loki. Most magical? I'd take Karnilla over all 3 you've listed. Quote: Best Power suit user Quote: Iron Man. Doctor Doom may often have a better suit, having the resources of an entire nation to utilize, but Iron Man will use his suit more effectively.Aegis armor or Destroyer if they qualify. However, for terrestial armor I'd agree with Iron Man. Quote: Richest Quote: Bruce Wayne, Tony Stark, Lex Luthor, Norman Osborn, Doctor Doom. Place those in whatever order you want.I'd put Stark or Luthor first. Modern robber barons are much wealthier than old money or the aristocracy. Quote: Stealthiest Quote: Daredevil. Since stealth is more about being silent than being non-odorous, Wolverine can only get second place at best. After that, Batman, Nightwing, Electra, etc.I'll go with the Shroud on this one. He's very sneaky. Quote: Strongest Quote: The Hulk, then SupermanYeah, I'd give it to Hulk when enraged though there are many with higher bases. Quote: Best Tracker Quote: This is the only one I can think of where Wolverine comes in first. Unless you mean tracking as a detective does, in which case Logan would be way behind Batman.I'd go with Heimdall here. His senses are far sharper than Logan's. Quote: | |
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Subject: Re: Who is the "best there is" at what they do? [Re: Happy Hogan] Posted Mon Jan 25, 2010 at 06:03:39 pm EST (Viewed 66 times) |
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Quote: Best AcrobatSpider-Man (due to Spider-senses). Gamora's up there too. Quote: Best Detective Batman. Quote: Best Energy projector Silver Surfer. Quote: Fastest The Runner. Quote: Best Flier Superman. Quote: Best at Healing Wolverine. Quote: Best Improviser Hm... either Spider-man or Batman. Quote: Best Inventor Richaaaaarrrrdddss!!! Quote: Best Leader Captain America (Steve). Quote: Most invulnerable Hulk edges out Superman due to Kryptonite. Quote: Most magical Dr. Strange took this easily, until he was Ruined Forever in New Avengers. Quote: Best Power suit user Dr. Doom. Quote: Richest I wish I knew the population of Latveria. I'd probably give it to Doom, since he can profit from the riches of an entire economy. Quote: Stealthiest Batman. Quote: Strongest The Hulk. (Let's agree to ignore the Red Hulk). Quote: Best Tracker Probably the Silver Surfer again, since he can track across the cosmos. "It is not our abilities that show what we truly are. It is our choices." – Albus Dumbledore | |
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Subject: Re: Who is the "best there is" at what they do? [Re: Happy Hogan] Posted Mon Jan 25, 2010 at 07:58:13 pm EST (Viewed 17 times) |
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Quote: Best AcrobatI'd say Spidey with Nightcrawler and Beast getting honorable mentions. Quote: Best Detective I think Bats gets this by defaut. He was the original super hero detective and is the best at it. Daredevil gets an honorable mention because he does it on the cheap using his powers. Quote: Best Energy projector I'd probably give this to somebody like Cyke or Havok but their powers tend to get dwarfed by the cosmics, although that latter class doesn't get the good showings on Earth. If I were the Rhino and I had to take a hit from somebody, I'd rather it by Cyke than Silver Surfer. Quote: Fastest Flash, without much question. Quote: Best Flier I think Superman in general, multidirectional flight. Angel gets the win for winged flight because of a lack of competition (Hawkman and Vulture not being completely winged flight). For propulsion-driven flight, Iron Man is the best. Worst flyer goes to Jessica Jones or Peter Parker in his Hornet costume. Quote: Best at Healing WWH was better than Wolverine but since there are different versions of Hulk I'm going to say his average isn't any better than Wolverine's average. Both have low showings and insane ones. I think Deadpool is getting left out here. Back in the day, he was top dog in this, no? I'm assuming we aren't counting shape shifters. Quote: Best Improviser Spidey and Batman are good and they seem to do a lot with a little, but I think I favor Iron Man here. Improvising via his tech is what he does. Quote: Best Inventor This has to go to Pym. Sure, Reed has built gizmos to take him to other dimensions and battle gods, but currently Pym pulls stuff like that out of his pocket. I think in the field of inventing useful gizmos Reed and Tony may have just gotten passed. Quote: Best Leader Quote: Captain America hands down. He's both inspirational and leads by example. (Something Superman btw is not so good at.)Quote: Most invulnerable Classically, I'd say Juggernaut. However, if this is a brawl to end it all with Metropolis on the line, I don't know if Superman could not be the last guy standing in a straight up brawl. Quote: Most magical This is hard to say. Quote: Best Power suit user Iron Man Quote: Richest I'd say Black Panther or Doom, depending on who has the higher GDP. Quote: Stealthiest It's cheating, but I'd say somebody like Ghost or maybe the Flash. It is really dependent on situation. the Invisible Woman has a very different approach to stealth than Batman. Quote: Strongest If we are only taking big names, Superman has the highest average. There are guys that can surpass him (really angry Hulk, a handful of villains, etc.) but even then it's never completely clear that somebody else is stronger. Quote: Best Tracker Daredevil. Sure, Wolverine has the experience and possibly the best since of small out there. However, Daredevil's other senses are much better than Wolverine's and these are used frequently in his book to help him find people. | |
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Subject: Make this more difficult....choose only FEMALE characters - NT [Re: Surly Rockbottom] Posted Mon Jan 25, 2010 at 10:36:52 pm EST (Viewed 3 times) |
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Subject: Re: Who is the "best there is" at what they do? [Re: dave] Posted Tue Jan 26, 2010 at 03:25:49 pm EST (Viewed 70 times) |
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Quote: I think Deadpool is getting left out here. Back in the day, he was top dog in this, no? He still is. As recently as last year his healing was explicitly stated to be above Logan's. In the same arc, he literally no-sold having Wolverine's claws popped through his brain. Cheers. ![]() ![]() ![]() | |
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Subject: Re: Who is the "best there is" at what they do? [Re: Happy Hogan] Posted Tue Jan 26, 2010 at 03:26:47 pm EST (Viewed 67 times) |
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Quote: Yeah, I know Wolverine says that ad nauseam, but I'm putting together a list of common comic book abilities and I notice that Wolverine doesn't rate even near the top on most of them. I've tried to place these abilities in alphabetical order, and if I've missed any I apologize, and please feel free to add. Also, I know my list is kind of Marvel-heavy, that's just who I read more of. Please feel free to any any names you think are appropriate, and if you like where they and others rate on a scale of 1 to 100.Quote: Best AcrobatTie between Spiderman and Night Crawler, Death Stroke maybe Quote: Best DetectiveBatMan, Nick Fury [/qoute]Best Energy projector Excluding Abstracts, Cosmics, Sky Fathers, gods, The Destroyer and mystical entities like Dormammu or the Vishanti. Silver Surfer, Quasar, The Lanterns. [/qoute]Fastest The Flashes, The Runner, Makkari, Hermes, Hermod, Quick Silver [/qoute]Best Flier Surfer, Supes, Ikaris, Glads Best at Healing Wolverine, Hulk any Eternal. Best Improviser Cap, Bats, Spidey, Stark, Doom, Reed, Thanos, Thor. Quote: Best InventorGalactus, High Evolutionary, Celestials, Watchers and gods have uber devices but non cosmics like Thanos, Reed, Doom, Mad Maximus, Stark, and Forge. Quote: Best LeaderCap, Thor, Ares, Gladiator, Quote: Most invulnerableDestroyer Armor, Mangog, Juggernaut, Supes, Doomsday, Hulk Quote: Most magicalBarring gods and mystical entities, Doctor Strange, Fate, Zantana, Voodoo Quote: Best Power suit userBarring Imperiex, Destroyer, Celestial Quote: Iron Man. Doctor Doom may often have a better suit, having the resources of an entire nation to utilize, but Iron Man will use his suit more effectively.Just because Doom runs a backwater country it does not preclude him in to having a superior suit of armor. I'll bet the Stark gross profits are equal to or better than Doom's. Stark's armor is equal to and superior in a lot of ways to Doom's armor. Quote: RichestBruce Wayne, Tony Stark, Lex Luthor, Doom, Black Panther, Thor, Namor. These guys are very very rich and a few billion here or there is nothing. Some use there money while other think little of it. Quote: StealthiestInvisible Woman, Martian Manhunter, Vision, Black Panter, Bats, Spiderman Dare Devil, Shadow Cat. Quote: StrongestMangog is an absolute beast apart from cosmics or the Destroyer no one is going to wrestle him to the ground. Best Tracker Any Herald or Heimdall can find you anywhere. | |
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Subject: Re: Who is the "best there is" at what they do? [Re: Happy Hogan] Posted Tue Jan 26, 2010 at 06:26:25 pm EST (Viewed 75 times) |
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Quote: Quote: Yeah, I know Wolverine says that ad nauseam, but I'm putting together a list of common comic book abilities and I notice that Wolverine doesn't rate even near the top on most of them. I've tried to place these abilities in alphabetical order, and if I've missed any I apologize, and please feel free to add. Also, I know my list is kind of Marvel-heavy, that's just who I read more of.   Please feel free to any any names you think are appropriate, and if you like where they and others rate on a scale of 1 to 100.Quote: Best AcrobatQuote: I put Spider-Man on top here, with honorable mention to Daredevil, Captain America, and NightwingSpider-man yes, He's embarrased Nightcrawler before now and if he can leave Kurt in the shade he should logically leave Cap behind too though it's debatable i suppose. Quote: Best Detective Quote: In this category, Batman's (Bruce Wayne) the best, with Dick Grayson coming in second. I'd also give a nod to all the investigative reporters in each universe, many of whom don't have superpowers. This includes Lois Lane, Jimmy Olsen, Ben Urich, etc.It's dependent on how you classify this but i think Daredevil should be right up there too, his senses and deductive reasoning make him arguably at least match for Batman in my opinion. Quote: Best Energy projector Quote: This is a hard one for me to figure out. As many energy projector as there are in comics, there doesn't seem to be a general consensus over which ones are the most powerful. Superman? Thor? Green Lantern? Cyclops? Iron Man? Does Iron Man even count as an energy projector since he does it using machinery?You'll never get a straight answer here as whoever you name there's someone more powerful... I would nominate Silver Surfer obviously but point to Captain Atom who's reachable potential exceeds Surfers. You can go on and on with potential candidates here. Quote: Fastest Quote: Flash of course. In fact he's so fast that there aren't even many good stories about him now.I can't think of anyone decisively faster no, but his speed is not responsible for the poor stories, reread Mark Waids run for example and you see it's just a matter of getting a writer who understands the mechanics of that power and its limitations. Quote: Best Flier Quote: Just like energy projection, this is a hard one to figure out. I've noticed that the two most overused powers in comics are flying and throwing zaps. I nominate Hawkman largely due to his sheer experience, back in JSA #24 he's thrown off Onimar Synn's citadel minus wings and there's an awesome sequence highlighting his aviation intuition... his instinct is superb in this field. Quote: Best at Healing Quote: I think it's Wolverine, with the Hulk a close second. The General. Quote: Best Improviser Quote: Spider-Man shows this in his solo books more often than anyone else. After that, I'd go with Captain America, especially while he's leading a team.In improvisation i'd say Iron Man historically ties Batman. Both superb at adapting on the spot... Quote: Best Inventor Quote: Reed Richards in first place. Hank Pym, Tony Stark and Doom tie for second.Yup, though How about Doc Savage? Quote: Best Leader Quote: Captain America hands down. He's both inspirational and leads by example. (Something Superman btw is not so good at.)Superman does every bit as well as Cap actually. But in terms of experience and ability Cap is indeed the man of choice... Though Optimus Prime rivals him. Quote: Most invulnerable Quote: Superman, Hulk, and Juggernaut. Put those 3 in any order you like.Juggernaut by definition leads, Silver Surfer, followed by Superman and his most powerful imitators - the Hulk shouldn't make the list however! Quote: Most magical Quote: Thor, Doctor Strange, Doctor Fate, Loki. Etrigan, Spectre, Spawn or Ghost Rider surely? Again you can go on and on but in recognition terms Dracula is arguably the logical choice. Quote: Best Power suit user Quote: Iron Man. Doctor Doom may often have a better suit, having the resources of an entire nation to utilize, but Iron Man will use his suit more effectively.I'd say Shellhead for sure leads the pack. Quote: Richest Quote: Bruce Wayne, Tony Stark, Lex Luthor, Norman Osborn, Doctor Doom. Place those in whatever order you want.No idea. I guess right now it's Bruce Wayne at the top, Doom is leader of a relatively poor country, Luthor is Bankrupt, Osborn who knows while Tony Starks fortune is both contentious and frozen - if not confiscated.... Quote: Stealthiest Quote: Daredevil. Since stealth is more about being silent than being non-odorous, Wolverine can only get second place at best. After that, Batman, Nightwing, Electra, etc.Tough call, if it's streetlevellers then Snake Eyes is in there as is The Shadow. I think if push comes to shove Elektra beats out Batman slightly but Daredevil is below Batmans expertise in this category while Wolverine might be anywhere.... Quote: Strongest Quote: The Hulk, then SupermanSuperman. In terms of feats, combat showings and the fact the Hulk is going near allout 9/10 while Superman needs extra prodding to break his daily self-imposed level means Superman has a far higher ceiling to what he can draw on in terms of power - see performances against Brainiac, Subjekt-17, Konvikt or that squad of Daxamites for the idea. Quote: Best Tracker Quote: This is the only one I can think of where Wolverine comes in first. Unless you mean tracking as a detective does, in which case Logan would be way behind Batman.I'd say Daredevil heads the list actually, he can operate on a higher level than Logan. | |
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Subject: Re: Who is the "best there is" at what they do? [Re: Happy Hogan] Posted Wed Jan 27, 2010 at 06:20:30 am EST (Viewed 54 times) |
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Quote: Quote: Yeah, I know Wolverine says that ad nauseam, but I'm putting together a list of common comic book abilities and I notice that Wolverine doesn't rate even near the top on most of them. I've tried to place these abilities in alphabetical order, and if I've missed any I apologize, and please feel free to add. Also, I know my list is kind of Marvel-heavy, that's just who I read more of.   Please feel free to any any names you think are appropriate, and if you like where they and others rate on a scale of 1 to 100.Quote: Best AcrobatQuote: I put Spider-Man on top here, with honorable mention to Daredevil, Captain America, and NightwingDefinitely Spiderman. Quote: Best Detective Quote: In this category, Batman's (Bruce Wayne) the best, with Dick Grayson coming in second. I'd also give a nod to all the investigative reporters in each universe, many of whom don't have superpowers. This includes Lois Lane, Jimmy Olsen, Ben Urich, etc.Yeah batman. Quote: Best Energy projector Quote: This is a hard one for me to figure out. As many energy projector as there are in comics, there doesn't seem to be a general consensus over which ones are the most powerful. Superman? Thor? Green Lantern? Cyclops? Iron Man? Does Iron Man even count as an energy projector since he does it using machinery?This is a tough one. Thor is kind of a hardhitter though not very fancy. I think he desrves a mention. In terms of finesse as well i think Heralds and GLs should make up the rest. Quote: Fastest Quote: Flash of course. In fact he's so fast that there aren't even many good stories about him now.Yep. Quote: Best Flier Quote: Just like energy projection, this is a hard one to figure out. I've noticed that the two most overused powers in comics are flying and throwing zaps. Superman and clones should own this. Quote: Best at Healing Quote: I think it's Wolverine, with the Hulk a close second. This probably should be Wolverines category as it pretty much is "what he does" apart from the claws. Quote: Best Improviser Quote: Spider-Man shows this in his solo books more often than anyone else. After that, I'd go with Captain America, especially while he's leading a team.Tony deserves mention. Quote: Best Inventor Quote: Reed Richards in first place. Hank Pym, Tony Stark and Doom tie for second.Yep. Quote: Best Leader Quote: Captain America hands down. He's both inspirational and leads by example. (Something Superman btw is not so good at.)Yep. Quote: Most invulnerable Quote: Superman, Hulk, and Juggernaut. Put those 3 in any order you like.Juggs then Surfer. Then Superman and classic Savage Hulk assuming you mean "hard invulnerability". Quote: Most magical Quote: Thor, Doctor Strange, Doctor Fate, Loki. Quote: Best Power suit user Quote: Iron Man. Doctor Doom may often have a better suit, having the resources of an entire nation to utilize, but Iron Man will use his suit more effectively.Quote: Richest Quote: Bruce Wayne, Tony Stark, Lex Luthor, Norman Osborn, Doctor Doom. Place those in whatever order you want.Stark would probably be the richest to be honest but lets say Bruce is a good counterpart in the DCU. Quote: Stealthiest Quote: Daredevil. Since stealth is more about being silent than being non-odorous, Wolverine can only get second place at best. After that, Batman, Nightwing, Electra, etc.More or less agree. Quote: Strongest Quote: The Hulk, then SupermanPretty much. Though I think Herc might get a mention in between Hulk and Superman in my book at least. Quote: Best Tracker Quote: This is the only one I can think of where Wolverine comes in first. Unless you mean tracking as a detective does, in which case Logan would be way behind Batman.Quote: His Holiness The Pope
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