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Reverend Meteor


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Ego used to be a humanoid named Egros that was created when the Stranger tampered with the star around his home planet? Me not like. Me like not at all.

To me that goes too far against what Stan and Jack created. That said...the rest of the issue was quite good.







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In the Astonishing Thor mini, it was revealed that the Stranger indeed created Ego. Not sure of the additional stuff like Egros is too much of a departure. I do wish the visuals of Ego Prime was a bit better. I also hoped to see more traditional cosmics in Galactus' crew in his war against the First Firmament. I'm also very curious how the new hierarchy will shake up. 





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Thanks for the scans, Primetime. I didn't know Egron was an established character. You are right, Ewing combined the previous know Ego origins and set it way in the past to give it more scope. 





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No problem. I think that the original origin is set in the distant past. The reason that we see Thor in the scans is because Ego is causing Thor to mentally relive Ego's origin as if Thor himself is Egros. But those events actually happen well before Thor.

Byrne did a different origin for Ego some time after that contradicts the original origin. So it seems that Ewing chose the original one since it sort of benefits the story.

 


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    Ego used to be a humanoid named Egros that was created when the Stranger tampered with the star around his home planet? Me not like. Me like not at all.



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    To me that goes too far against what Stan and Jack created. That said...the rest of the issue was quite good.



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I am not sure I am remembering right but I think this origin was already covered to some degree already. It seems like he is just adding some to it.

I know for sure that Stranger had something to do with his origin.




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    Ewing takes this origin directly from the first telling of Ego's origin in Thor #228 and combines it with the revelation from Astonishing Thor that The Stranger creates Ego:



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    Ego is telepathically causing Thor to relive Egros's experience.


Well then I have to concede your point and admit I'm wrong which I hate doing. I've never heard of the Egros aspect of his origin. Was this just an origin that never caught on? I've always seen Ego as a guy who began life as a sentient planet not a humanoid guy who turned into a planet which seems less cool somehow.





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    No problem. I think that the original origin is set in the distant past. The reason that we see Thor in the scans is because Ego is causing Thor to mentally relive Ego's origin as if Thor himself is Egros. But those events actually happen well before Thor.



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    Byrne did a different origin for Ego some time after that contradicts the original origin. So it seems that Ewing chose the original one since it sort of benefits the story.


I thought the original origin was that Ego was a part of the bio-diversity of the Black Galaxy.







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Both of those origins are in the Black Galaxy. The thing is that the origin that I posted happened in a 1977 issue of Thor. Later on, in a 1981 issue of Byrne's Fantastic Four, Ego forms on his own shortly after the Big Bang. A lot of people may have that FF origin in mind more than the earlier origin from Thor. Byrne was influential.

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    Both of those origins are in the Black Galaxy. The thing is that the origin that I posted happened in a 1977 issue of Thor. Later on, in a 1981 issue of Byrne's Fantastic Four, Ego forms on his own shortly after the Big Bang. A lot of people may have that FF origin in mind more than the earlier origin from Thor. Byrne was influential.


I was thinking of the Recorder's description in Thor #133.






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    Yep. He combined two origins.



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Thanks, I have trouble remembering Ego's origin. The character does not show up that consistently, nor have it brought up too much that I remember. He is a very cool concept though.

I was always surprised he and Galactus have only run into one another twice.




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Ego has actually had five or six different origins, depending on how you count them.

1. Ego was a sentient planet which existed at the center of the Black Galaxy, described as being a fluid bio-verse.

2. Ego was originally Egros, a member of a sentient humanoid race. When it was discovered that their sun would be going nova at a very precise time in the future, Egros led the efforts to save everybody. Sadly, the time when they calculated their sun would go nova was a bit (less then one minute) off and Egros was caught by the radiation from the nova while outside the shielded chamber which had not been sealed yet because he was still outside. As a result, the nova's radiation fused the mind of Egros and the lifeforce of the rest of his race with the matter of the entire planet to create Ego the Living Planet.

3. Ego was a unique but naturally occurring lifeform. The whole Egros origin was a fiction contained within a small false brain which Ego used to deceive enemies into being more sympathetic to him. Ego's real brain was much larger (Moon-sized) and located at the center of his mass.

4. Ego was possibly a component of a massive creature known as Super-Ego that was opposed by the Celestials. Also, the Black Galaxy was either created by the Celestials or taken over by them so that a new Celestial could be born.

5. Ego and his brother Alter Ego were both created long ago by the Stranger as part of one of his experiments. Ego was unaware of his brother's existence until recently. Alter Ego, maddened by being held captive by the Collector since his creation, attacked Ego who was then forced to defend himself, causing his brother to lose much of his mass. Thor's intervention prevented Ego from destroying his brother and the two of them made peace with Alter Ego becoming Ego's moon.

6. Ego was once Egros until a Stranger caused his world's sun to go nova and consume its twin planets, possibly in order to create something like Ego. Egros' race died but Egros survived and became one with every particle of matter that made up his planet.

Although I really like what Al Ewing did to make Nextwave "canon" in Reality-616 and how he explained the origin/history of the multiverses, I must agree that this revision of Ego's origin is not as good. The problem is, I'm not sure why. Maybe it just feels a bit off to me. Or maybe the fact that it was assembled from elements of different stories that don't naturally fit together is something that shines through the cracks.


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Excellent Ego expostion! Thank you. Puts Ultimates #8 in a whole new light!

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I always sort of liked the idea that he was a unique thing that just was, but really any of them works.




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