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Reverend Meteor


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In Thor #169 Galactus recounts his origin to Thor and mentions that the Watcher (Uatu?) observed him on his ship after everyone else on his ship perished after they crashed into a sun (because a plague destroyed their world Taa). Galan at this time was infected with cosmic power but hadn't woken up yet and become Galactus. The Thor story doesn't even say Galactus survived the death of his universe...that must have been added later.

So does that mean the Watchers existed in Galan's iteration of the multiverse or did we get a retcon later that established this Watcher only observed Galan after the universe was reborn (meaning the Watchers probably did not exist in Galan's original universe).





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    In Thor #169 Galactus recounts his origin to Thor and mentions that the Watcher (Uatu?) observed him on his ship after everyone else on his ship perished after they crashed into a sun (because a plague destroyed their world Taa). Galan at this time was infected with cosmic power but hadn't woken up yet and become Galactus. The Thor story doesn't even say Galactus survived the death of his universe...that must have been added later.


Yes, that was added later.


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    So does that mean the Watchers existed in Galan's iteration of the multiverse or did we get a retcon later that established this Watcher only observed Galan after the universe was reborn (meaning the Watchers probably did not exist in Galan's original universe).


This Thor story was retconned, but it wasn't retconned in such a way that necessarily precludes there being Watchers in the previous iteration of the universe.




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bd2999

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It was retconned. Initially, Galactus did not survive from the previous universe either. He flew through a nebula or some other event and gained power that way. The survivor of a previous universe was revealed later.




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JesusFan


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Wasn't he galen in a prior Universe, who merged with the Eternity of that Universe and came out as Galactus?


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bd2999

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That is his origin, but it was not originally. Initially, if I remember the initial Thor story, he was Galen but he flew through a quasar or something for a much less noble reason.

The energy in that merged with him and he became what he is. Later, when Galactus gained status, and as the cosmic sphere grew the idea must have been to give him a place of honor, being such a critical piece of things. So they had him be the survivor of the previous universe merged with the dying sentience of that universe, or Eternity.

The original origin does not really flow with much have what has come after in any way, so it is largely just a footnote anyway.




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Reverend Meteor


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    Wasn't he galen in a prior Universe, who merged with the Eternity of that Universe and came out as Galactus?


Not originally.

As recounted in Thor #169:

1. Galen is just from another planet and not from the previous universe. The survivor from another universe idea came later.

2. Galen's world Taa didn't die because the universe was ending. There was a plague on Taa that wiped almost everyone but Galen and few other survivors out. Galen and the others end up flying into the universe's largest star because they thought it would be a glorious thing to do. Everyone but Galen died and Galen became transformed by the cosmic energy. The Watcher saw the ship skittering through space and came aboard the ship and observed. The Watcher left, Galen dumped the bodies of his compatriots in space (are those guys really dead? there's a story) and then began designing his body armor, changed his ship and then a few centuries later he emerged as Galactus.

3. Eternity wasn't involved.

4. Read the issue here:
http://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Thor-1966/Issue-169?id=7723







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Unless there is something I do not know(always a possibility) they are still dead. Some of the few to never be revived and a story I would be very interested seeing unfold. Now would be a good time while Galactus is in lifebringer mode. Maybe them being brought back to take his old place setting up a conflict of universal importance as if almost every major event is otherwise. However I expect Galactus goes back to regular either before or during his next trip to Asgard.


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