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MAJOR SPOILER at the end of this regarding the end of this episode and the appearance of......well keep on reading.

The latest meta human is a man that can turn from flesh to steel, Dr Wells refers to him as a Man of Steel.

He is also a former bully from Barry's school and has a thing for Iris, who is in danger from the guy due to her blogging about The Streak

Barry faces the metal man twice and is soundly beaten. They later devise a plan that if Barry hits him at the right angle while going at Mach 1.1 he can inflict serious damage against the metal man. If he hits at the wrong angle/speed, Barry is toast.

Barry pulls off the Mach 1.1 super sonic punch and decks the meta human. Metal Man is locked away below Star Labs, and Barry in a dramatic scene faces him in his cell, mask off but costume on, and gives him a few choice words before he locks up the cell.

Iris' father asks Dr Wells for help in solving the murder of Nora Allen. Dr Wells assures him that there were no particle accelerators or meta humans 14 years ago, and thus states that what Barry saw cannot be possible. Another great way for Wells to maintain his possible cover identity so that no one knows he is Professor Zoom. If he is Professor Zoom.

By the way, speaking of Professor Zoom and time travel, which has always been a big part of the Flash mythos, check out this spoiler link for the winter episodes of the Flash

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=57180

Now then as to Professor Zoom/reverse Flash:

1. We know he's coming, he killed Barry's mother, which was the event that set Barry into believing the impossible and would lead to him becoming the Flash.

2. Wells' interest in Barry as the Flash at times seems normal and other times seems almost obsessive, much like how Zoom obsesses over the Flash.

3. Wells does not need the wheelchair, it is a facade. Great disguise for a super speedster

4. Wells has access to future news, such as Flash disappearing in 2024 during a Crisis. We have also seen in his private computer room that he has video footage of Barry being struck by the lightning bolt!

5. Wells has killed to protect Barry.

6. We've also seen in flashback that Wells pretty much knew the particle accelerator was going to fail, and why as he made it fail so that all the meta humans would arise and Barry becomes the Flash.

7. Wells was interrogated by Iris's father in this episode and though they made peace at the end, back at his home as he goes over the evidence of Nora's murder THE REVERSE FLASH makes a quick appearance and leaves a warning carved into a wall, "STOP OR ELSE" and below the words is a picture of Iris pinned to the wall with a knife!!!!

the only people that know that Nora's murder is being looked into again are : Barry, Iris' father, Henry Allen (John Wesley Shipp of the old Flash series) and now Dr Wells. Now with the addition of Dr Wells knowing that the case is reopened and a visit from the Reverse Flash to warn them to stop the investigation, does anyone still want to think that Wells is NOT the Reverse Flash?

The other possibility is that Detective Edward Thawne is really Eobard Thawne in disguise and concealing his powers, OR that is the direct linear ancestor of Eobard Thawne aka Reverse Flash. If Edward comes to serious harm that could endanger Reverse Flash, IF Edward is indeed the ancestor of the Reverse Flash.

Another possibility is that Professor Zoom is not Dr Wells in disguise and he is also not Edward Thawne in disguise. The only way for this to work and for him to know that the Nora Allen case is reopened is if he has been hiding in Star Labs and the police station using his speed to remain invisible and is keeping watch on things. However that does not seem likely.

So while someone below has posted that it could be all misdirection and that Wells is NOT Professor Zoom/Reverse Flash, I think, given the end of this episode that we must seriously entertain the idea that Wells is Eobard Thawne aka Professor Zoom, the Reverse Flash. He just learns the case is reopened and then Iris' Dad gets a very serious warning to back off the case.




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Paste Pot Pete 

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    So while someone below has posted that it could be all misdirection and that Wells is NOT Professor Zoom/Reverse Flash, I think, given the end of this episode that we must seriously entertain the idea that Wells is Eobard Thawne aka Professor Zoom, the Reverse Flash. He just learns the case is reopened and then Iris' Dad gets a very serious warning to back off the case.


This episode made me think that it isn't Wells because if Wells is Professor Zoom then he is not very smart.

Joe spent the whole episode grilling Wells and then he gets a warning from Zoom. That would make me doubly suspicious of Wells. So, not really an effective warning. It would have been better for Zoom to do nothing and hope Joe was convinced Wells was innocent.

However, if Wells is not Zoom then the warning was effective because the warning made it seem like Wells is Zoom.

As to the rest of the episode. Why the heck did Barry show the villain who he is? I mean I know the guy is in the Meta-human jail, but villains have a way of getting out of jails in comics. So know when that guy gets out he knows who Barry is and has a serious advantage.

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Reverend Meteor





    Quote:
    MAJOR SPOILER at the end of this regarding the end of this episode and the appearance of......well keep on reading.



    Quote:
    The latest meta human is a man that can turn from flesh to steel, Dr Wells refers to him as a Man of Steel.



    Quote:
    He is also a former bully from Barry's school and has a thing for Iris, who is in danger from the guy due to her blogging about The Streak



    Quote:
    Barry faces the metal man twice and is soundly beaten. They later devise a plan that if Barry hits him at the right angle while going at Mach 1.1 he can inflict serious damage against the metal man. If he hits at the wrong angle/speed, Barry is toast.



    Quote:
    Barry pulls off the Mach 1.1 super sonic punch and decks the meta human. Metal Man is locked away below Star Labs, and Barry in a dramatic scene faces him in his cell, mask off but costume on, and gives him a few choice words before he locks up the cell.



    Quote:
    Iris' father asks Dr Wells for help in solving the murder of Nora Allen. Dr Wells assures him that there were no particle accelerators or meta humans 14 years ago, and thus states that what Barry saw cannot be possible. Another great way for Wells to maintain his possible cover identity so that no one knows he is Professor Zoom. If he is Professor Zoom.



    Quote:
    By the way, speaking of Professor Zoom and time travel, which has always been a big part of the Flash mythos, check out this spoiler link for the winter episodes of the Flash



    Quote:
    http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=57180



    Quote:
    Now then as to Professor Zoom/reverse Flash:



    Quote:
    1. We know he's coming, he killed Barry's mother, which was the event that set Barry into believing the impossible and would lead to him becoming the Flash.



    Quote:
    2. Wells' interest in Barry as the Flash at times seems normal and other times seems almost obsessive, much like how Zoom obsesses over the Flash.



    Quote:
    3. Wells does not need the wheelchair, it is a facade. Great disguise for a super speedster



    Quote:
    4. Wells has access to future news, such as Flash disappearing in 2024 during a Crisis. We have also seen in his private computer room that he has video footage of Barry being struck by the lightning bolt!



    Quote:
    5. Wells has killed to protect Barry.



    Quote:
    6. We've also seen in flashback that Wells pretty much knew the particle accelerator was going to fail, and why as he made it fail so that all the meta humans would arise and Barry becomes the Flash.



    Quote:
    7. Wells was interrogated by Iris's father in this episode and though they made peace at the end, back at his home as he goes over the evidence of Nora's murder THE REVERSE FLASH makes a quick appearance and leaves a warning carved into a wall, "STOP OR ELSE" and below the words is a picture of Iris pinned to the wall with a knife!!!!



    Quote:
    the only people that know that Nora's murder is being looked into again are : Barry, Iris' father, Henry Allen (John Wesley Shipp of the old Flash series) and now Dr Wells. Now with the addition of Dr Wells knowing that the case is reopened and a visit from the Reverse Flash to warn them to stop the investigation, does anyone still want to think that Wells is NOT the Reverse Flash?



    Quote:
    The other possibility is that Detective Edward Thawne is really Eobard Thawne in disguise and concealing his powers, OR that is the direct linear ancestor of Eobard Thawne aka Reverse Flash. If Edward comes to serious harm that could endanger Reverse Flash, IF Edward is indeed the ancestor of the Reverse Flash.



    Quote:
    Another possibility is that Professor Zoom is not Dr Wells in disguise and he is also not Edward Thawne in disguise. The only way for this to work and for him to know that the Nora Allen case is reopened is if he has been hiding in Star Labs and the police station using his speed to remain invisible and is keeping watch on things. However that does not seem likely.



    Quote:
    So while someone below has posted that it could be all misdirection and that Wells is NOT Professor Zoom/Reverse Flash, I think, given the end of this episode that we must seriously entertain the idea that Wells is Eobard Thawne aka Professor Zoom, the Reverse Flash. He just learns the case is reopened and then Iris' Dad gets a very serious warning to back off the case.



To me the hints certainly point to Wells being the Reverse Flash...but that's why I don't want it to be him.

I think if Wells isn't Barry's enemy but is instead some sort of morally grey guy scheming to protect Barry (or his ideal of what the Flash should be) Wells is more interesting. If the resolution to the Wells mystery is that he's just some evil guy from the future then that's kind of one note.

Personally I think in a later season we're going to find out Eddie and Barry are either half siblings or share a half sibling. Flash characters from what I can tell have convoluted family trees centered around time travel. I fully expect that we will get some of that in later seasons.

Personally I think Barry has a sibling and that sibling is Wells ancestor. Or heck maybe Eddie is Wells son with Nora Allen.

I fully expect Harrison, Barry and Eddie to be parts of the same family tree.



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Iron Man Unit 007




Yes, he spent the ep grilling Wells, but unless Joe begins to suspect that Wells is faking his need for the wheel chair, he isn't going to think that Wells attacked him as Reverse Flash.


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Paste Pot Pete 

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    Quote:

    To me the hints certainly point to Wells being the Reverse Flash...but that's why I don't want it to be him.



    Quote:
    I think if Wells isn't Barry's enemy but is instead some sort of morally grey guy scheming to protect Barry (or his ideal of what the Flash should be) Wells is more interesting. If the resolution to the Wells mystery is that he's just some evil guy from the future then that's kind of one note.



    Quote:
    Personally I think in a later season we're going to find out Eddie and Barry are either half siblings or share a half sibling. Flash characters from what I can tell have convoluted family trees centered around time travel. I fully expect that we will get some of that in later seasons.



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    Personally I think Barry has a sibling and that sibling is Wells ancestor. Or heck maybe Eddie is Wells son with Nora Allen.



    Quote:
    I fully expect Harrison, Barry and Eddie to be parts of the same family tree.


This was the first episode where Eddie's character really seemed to work. I liked him in this episode.

How him and Barry worked together, exercised together. Had a discussion where Barry tried very poorly to cover up the existance of meta-humans. And they even had a good talk about Iris and how he sees Barry as an good friend to Iris and clearly doesn't think of him as a threat to his relationship with her.

Iris even worked as a character is this episode, but unfortunately only because she was a typical damsel in distress.

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JesusFan


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man of Steel was an interesting tag line!

And they will need to get more powerful heros to appear, for Grodd and Shaggy man seem to be coming down the pike as Villains to defeat...

General Illing would become Shaggy man, capt cold, Grodd, DC Collesus guy, all that you really need is for the Dr Wells to become Zoom and lead the Flash version of the Injustice league!


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emerickman

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This was another good ep!



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    the only people that know that Nora's murder is being looked into again are : Barry, Iris' father, Henry Allen (John Wesley Shipp of the old Flash series) and now Dr Wells. Now with the addition of Dr Wells knowing that the case is reopened and a visit from the Reverse Flash to warn them to stop the investigation, does anyone still want to think that Wells is NOT the Reverse Flash?


Having just seen this episode I loved it, but it does strike me that Wells being Reverse-Flash is perhaps too obvious a misdirection. The overall plotline appears to be a tug-of-war over the Flash's timeline, Wells is trying to shape or protect it, while Reverse-Flash is out to make Barry suffer - why else intervene to take all of that evidence/research from Joe her, tip off his existence to Barrys him, but leave him alive. Since he had just crossed Wells from his suspect list it makes little sense that Wells is the Reverse-Flash, it would be pointless announcing his existence like thas as Joe has absolutely no knowledge of a 'Reverse-Flash' and no way to EVER know!

It seemed to me that we probobly have two people (Wells and Reverse-Flash) playing chess with history, one is trying to protect it, the other...?

Then again Wells does seem strangely indifferent to Barry's tragic origins.




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