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Knight


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What IF, HR did turn out to be Savitar? Obviously, not right now but in the future it's revealed he becomes the villain?

What if Harry is Savitar from the future?

Regardless if this is not possible or not, ask yourself "What IF?"

What if either one turned out to be Savitar? How disappointed would you be? Would you be excited instead? Would this be essentially repeating the same villain from season 1?

Look forward to your answers because I want to know if any of you feel the same way I would if either Harry or HR turned out to be Savitar.





It's interesting that a hero/villain performs one amazing feat, or use a power they haven't used for 20+ years, and that automatically propels them to a high status despite scans and evidence to the contrary. I don't know what is worse, selective feat picking that has only been done once or twice 20, or more, years ago or ignoring evidence from scans or the lack thereof. We need to stop putting our favorite heroes/villains on pedestals and start putting them where they really belong. But it's evident that people never will because they would rather accuse others of cherry picking feats, when they don't, and being 'morally superior' when they aren't. I guess being honest and as fair as possible only opens one up to being the target of childish accusations and fault finding by those who insist on acting petty and childish. What happened to a good debate between two civil, mature, adults?
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Paste Pot Pete 

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I've been saying the same thing and others have too.

Here's a thread where we discussed it.

https://www.comicboards.com/php/show.php?msg=flash-2017031714064382&layout=thread

And his absence from most of the Abra Kadabra episode just adds fuel to the fire.



PPP





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Reverend Meteor


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    What IF, HR did turn out to be Savitar? Obviously, not right now but in the future it's revealed he becomes the villain?



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    What if Harry is Savitar from the future?



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    Regardless if this is not possible or not, ask yourself "What IF?"



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    What if either one turned out to be Savitar? How disappointed would you be? Would you be excited instead? Would this be essentially repeating the same villain from season 1?


I would be utterly disappointed. So damn it probably is him. This show knows how to disappoint.

Plus it would seem so empty and manipulative. The logic behind HR being on the team in the first place is paper thin and to make him the big bad after Jay/Hunter and Harrison/Eobard would telegraph that the season 4 villain is probably someone who will become a teammate of the group and come from an alternate future/present, look like someone we know etc.


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    Look forward to your answers because I want to know if any of you feel the same way I would if either Harry or HR turned out to be Savitar.


I would be disappointed either way but more so if it was HR. I like Harrison-2 more but the one good quality HR has is that he seems to be free of malice or hubris. Harrison-2 going evil...doesn't seem that far off from who he really is. But still it would be a cop out since we already sort of had an evil Harrison as the big bad when Eobard pretended to be him.

Any and all Harrisons should be immune from being the seasonal big bad for the rest of the series IMO. UNLESS...it's somehow the actual real one from Earth-1 that Eobard killed that we don't really know...but I'm talking like last season of the show villain.

I think the best bet is to reveal that HR's secret is something dull and banal. We're expecting him to be a mustache twirling villain yet he comes off as a complete idiot. Just reveal he's doing something creepy like blowing dudes behind the Big Belly Burger trashcans every night. Don't make him the season villain.






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Paste Pot Pete 

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    I think the best bet is to reveal that HR's secret is something dull and banal. We're expecting him to be a mustache twirling villain yet he comes off as a complete idiot. Just reveal he's doing something creepy like blowing dudes behind the Big Belly Burger trashcans every night. Don't make him the season villain.


I agree with what you're saying that HR being Savitar would feel really "been there done that.

But if it goes the other way and he's doing the kind of thing you mentioned, I really don't want to see/hear/or even think about it.


PPP








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JesusFan


Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008


Isn't Future Barry him from the future though in the comics?


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JesusFan


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iF Savitar thiough is future Barry, how does he stop Himselfr?


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      I think the best bet is to reveal that HR's secret is something dull and banal. We're expecting him to be a mustache twirling villain yet he comes off as a complete idiot. Just reveal he's doing something creepy like blowing dudes behind the Big Belly Burger trashcans every night. Don't make him the season villain.



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    I agree with what you're saying that HR being Savitar would feel really "been there done that.



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    But if it goes the other way and he's doing the kind of thing you mentioned, I really don't want to see/hear/or even think about it.


That was just one example. Perhaps not the best example!


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Knight


Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008




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    Isn't Future Barry him from the future though in the comics?


Pre-52? No. New 52? No idea. I haven't been reading Barry's run in the New 52





It's interesting that a hero/villain performs one amazing feat, or use a power they haven't used for 20+ years, and that automatically propels them to a high status despite scans and evidence to the contrary. I don't know what is worse, selective feat picking that has only been done once or twice 20, or more, years ago or ignoring evidence from scans or the lack thereof. We need to stop putting our favorite heroes/villains on pedestals and start putting them where they really belong. But it's evident that people never will because they would rather accuse others of cherry picking feats, when they don't, and being 'morally superior' when they aren't. I guess being honest and as fair as possible only opens one up to being the target of childish accusations and fault finding by those who insist on acting petty and childish. What happened to a good debate between two civil, mature, adults?
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Reverend Meteor


Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008
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    Isn't Future Barry him from the future though in the comics?


No he was "A Cold War Pilot from a Third World Nation". I think he was from a uh...browner ethnicity.





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