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Iron Man Unit 007
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Subject: Flash May 15th
Posted Tue May 15, 2018 at 09:23:11 pm CDT (Viewed 1201 times) |
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Devoe easily breaches a blackops site at first impersonating Diggle
Team Flash comments how they have eyes on every possible launch site including BLACK HAWK ISLAND.
Cisco comments how Devoe is a one man legion of doom and they are the super friends.....
Wells2 brain is really drifting into Rutabaga land
Barry goes to get Diggle for information, Cisco and crew wisely have a trashcan ready for him. 
Diggle checks the Argus system and learns he was impersonated.
Devoe is after the meta Borman, he is using his power to generate massive energy to charge his satellites
Cisco and Caitlyn deduce that Barry can briefly bring them into Flashtime mode so that they can save the hostages Devoe has while Barry gets Devoe. They deduce Barry generates Speed Force as well as tapping the SF for speed.
Barry starts to train them on how to move in Flashtime
JOe's girl experiences a humorous/ominous spike in her telepathy
We learn the reason for the enlightenment:
https://www.cbr.com/flash-thinker-enlightenment-explained/
New data about Killer Frost
https://www.cbr.com/flash-killer-frost-history/
Devoe launches the satellites, Barry destroys one of them.
Devoe confronts Barry and explains his plan
Devoe attacks Star Labs to launch its satellite, cliffhanger ending.
Glad next week is the season finale, this season needs to end.
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Reverend Meteor
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Subject: Re: Flash May 15th [Re: Iron Man Unit 007]
Posted Wed May 16, 2018 at 10:15:30 am CDT (Viewed 1092 times) |
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Quote: Devoe easily breaches a blackops site at first impersonating Diggle
Quote: Team Flash comments how they have eyes on every possible launch site including BLACK HAWK ISLAND.
Quote: Cisco comments how Devoe is a one man legion of doom and they are the super friends.....
Quote: Wells2 brain is really drifting into Rutabaga land
Quote: Barry goes to get Diggle for information, Cisco and crew wisely have a trashcan ready for him.
Quote: Diggle checks the Argus system and learns he was impersonated.
Quote: Devoe is after the meta Borman, he is using his power to generate massive energy to charge his satellites
Quote: Cisco and Caitlyn deduce that Barry can briefly bring them into Flashtime mode so that they can save the hostages Devoe has while Barry gets Devoe. They deduce Barry generates Speed Force as well as tapping the SF for speed.
Quote: Barry starts to train them on how to move in Flashtime
Quote: JOe's girl experiences a humorous/ominous spike in her telepathy
Quote: We learn the reason for the enlightenment:
Quote: https://www.cbr.com/flash-thinker-enlightenment-explained/
So should we assume Caitlin's father is a member of the Mahkent family? Or am I reaching?
http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Icicle_(Joar_Mahkent)
Quote: Devoe launches the satellites, Barry destroys one of them.
Quote: Devoe confronts Barry and explains his plan
Quote: Devoe attacks Star Labs to launch its satellite, cliffhanger ending.
Quote: Glad next week is the season finale, this season needs to end.
It's been a real drag. The season is all but over and the mystery girl storyline still hasn't gone anywhere...she disappears for long stretches of episodes and I forget about her. The Thinker story has been horrible. Harrison's arc has been dull IMO...I don't need 2 episodes of Harrison dealing with alternate versions of himself. Cecile (who I like) getting gestational telepathy is dumb. Plus we got the return of the thing I despise most from season 1...Iris's infernal blog. And Caitlin as usual seems to not have much story (but that FINALLY seems to be changing after all these years...for some reason they've never made much of an attempt to really develop the character)
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Knight
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Subject: Re: Flash May 15th [Re: Iron Man Unit 007]
Posted Wed May 16, 2018 at 01:01:03 pm CDT (Viewed 1031 times) |
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Quote: Devoe easily breaches a blackops site at first impersonating Diggle
For me, this truly made DeVoe a serious threat and not to be taken lightly as a villain. He'll do whatever it takes to win. The way to beat him is the very thing DeVoe despises. Emotion. Forget the naysayers, I like DeVoe. He's been a great villain this season so far IMO.
Quote: Wells2 brain is really drifting into Rutabaga land
It's been an interesting storyline so far. I like it. I hope Harry gets his intelligence back, though. Probably will.
Quote: JOe's girl experiences a humorous/ominous spike in her telepathy
By far, the best parts of the episode.
Until it's explained how, and why, Caitlin became Killer Frost before the particle accelerator explosion, I call this a fake memory. No Particle explosion = No Meta-Humans. But based on the show runners questionable track record so far, they'll give a half baked explanation (if even that) that doesn't make a lick of sense.
Quote: Devoe launches the satellites, Barry destroys one of them.
One of them. What about the other 4? Dumb not to destroy all of them.
Quote: Glad next week is the season finale, this season needs to end.
No, this show needs to end. Too bad it's already been renewed for another season. Truly unbelievable.
It's interesting that a hero/villain performs one amazing feat, or use a power they haven't used for 20+ years, and that automatically propels them to a high status despite scans and evidence to the contrary. I don't know what is worse, selective feat picking that has only been done once or twice 20, or more, years ago or ignoring evidence from scans or the lack thereof. We need to stop putting our favorite heroes/villains on pedestals and start putting them where they really belong. But it's evident that people never will because they would rather accuse others of cherry picking feats, when they don't, and being 'morally superior' when they aren't. I guess being honest and as fair as possible only opens one up to being the target of childish accusations and fault finding by those who insist on acting petty and childish. What happened to a good debate between two civil, mature, adults?
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Iron Man Unit 007
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Subject: Re: Flash May 15th [Re: Knight]
Posted Wed May 16, 2018 at 05:48:25 pm CDT (Viewed 1020 times) |
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I think with Caitlyn it is more that she became KF mentally rather then physically when she was a kid.
Traumatic experience(s), her mind split and the KF persona was born.
Similar to how there have been some tales that indicate that from a mental standpoint, Banner may have had his Grey Hulk persona long before he was hit with gamma rays.
Barry only had the one projectile that was made for him, so only one satelite could be taken down, I think the theory was that if one was downed then they couldn't link up to do their job.
But Devoe was ready and launched Star Labs satellite.
Eh, they will probably reverse the polarity of the neutron flow and reverse any dumbing down affects started by the satellites and restore Wells2.
I don't think the show should end, Season 1 and 2 were fine, 3 had its moments and 4 has been off the rails. I would like to see new writers and a retooling of the show for Season 5.
Also with Blackhawk Island being mentioned I hope we get to see some version of them, perhaps in the next season crossover event?
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Subject: Re: Flash May 15th [Re: Reverend Meteor]
Posted Wed May 16, 2018 at 05:51:53 pm CDT (Viewed 1034 times) |
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Interesting idea about Caitlyn's dad. Also let's remember that before Flashpoint she stated she didn't have the meta gene, so somehow Flashpoint altered that.
As to the mystery girl, I suspect she will lend an assist with Devoe which is something he didn't anticipate and will be a recurring figure in Season 5.
Once the kid is born, I suspect Cecile loses the telepathy as it is the kid's power.
As to Wells2, am I the only one that hopes once he gets his intellect back that he starts going crazy/evil?
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CajunSpeedster
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Subject: Re: Flash May 15th [Re: Iron Man Unit 007]
Posted Thu May 17, 2018 at 01:27:48 pm CDT (Viewed 995 times) |
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Not a bad episode but not my favorite . . .
Maybe Cecile can get Prof X to help her control the "mental thing." (I know Prof X is Marvel )
Barry went back into "I I I I must do everything mode." He hasn't learned that the team succeeds more than his individual effort? For such a smart guy its taking him a long time to figure this out.
I love the dumb and empathetic Wells! What a change. I think Tom Cavanaugh is doing a great job and having fun with it.
DeVoe definitely stepped up his bad assery this episode by decimating the entire security force at the black site.
So Marlize and the mystery speedster are going to help out Team Flash? Let's see how it plays out.
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Dakota
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Subject: The single main season-long villain is getting old. [Re: Iron Man Unit 007]
Posted Thu May 17, 2018 at 08:48:13 pm CDT (Viewed 997 times) |
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Quote: I don't think the show should end, Season 1 and 2 were fine, 3 had its moments and 4 has been off the rails. I would like to see new writers and a retooling of the show for Season 5.
I think they need to move away from the single villain seasons. It gets old to see them battle and lose continually until the very end. It makes many episodes a waste of time because you know the villain can't be stopped yet since they have to be there for the season finale.
If they had multiple story arcs in a year, then it would work better because you wouldn't know if they would be able to stop the villain or not in any single episode.
I am somewhat annoyed that they keep showing Ferris Air. Is that just a tease or are they eventually going to do Green Lanterns?
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Iron Man Unit 007
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Subject: Re: The single main season-long villain is getting old. [Re: Dakota]
Posted Thu May 17, 2018 at 10:29:57 pm CDT (Viewed 985 times) |
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yes, perhaps shifting from one villain per season may be a good idea.
Last report was no GL's in the Arrow shows.
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Subject: Re: Flash May 15th [Re: Iron Man Unit 007]
Posted Mon May 21, 2018 at 05:11:18 am CDT (Viewed 1016 times) |
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I don't even care how DeVoe gets beaten now, like you I just want this series over and done. I would personally like to see Barry kill Devoe. Bastard deserves it 100%. He is literally too dangerous to live (and I don't want to risk him returning in a future episode). Phase a hand through his brain and be done with it.
The only chance they have now of beating Devoe is time travel. Its their only shot.
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JesusFan
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Subject: Re: Flash May 15th [Re: Iron Man Unit 007]
Posted Mon May 21, 2018 at 08:50:56 am CDT (Viewed 1002 times) |
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Why can't Flash just contact Kara or Clark, and have them destroy the satellites?
If they wanted someone to brain up and face Thginker, just get their version of Lex Luther!
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Reverend Meteor
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Subject: Re: Flash May 15th [Re: JesusFan]
Posted Tue May 22, 2018 at 10:25:36 am CDT (Viewed 988 times) |
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Quote: Why can't Flash just contact Kara or Clark, and have them destroy the satellites?
Barry's faster. They live in an alternate dimension. And I don't think Barry has met Clark.
Quote: If they wanted someone to brain up and face Thginker, just get their version of Lex Luther!
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Subject: Re: Flash May 15th [Re: Dragon Red]
Posted Tue May 22, 2018 at 10:27:58 am CDT (Viewed 1049 times) |
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Quote: The only chance they have now of beating Devoe is time travel. Its their only shot.
It seems like they've tried really hard to not use time travel to fix problems this season. But yeah it looks unavoidable in this situation. If Devoe wrecks the world Barry should just go back and fix it and deal with whatever side effect comes with that...it can't be worse than Devoe's plan working.
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Subject: Re: Flash May 15th [Re: CajunSpeedster]
Posted Tue May 22, 2018 at 10:28:57 am CDT (Viewed 983 times) |
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Quote: DeVoe definitely stepped up his bad assery this episode by decimating the entire security force at the black site.
It kind of reminded me of Shadow King killing all those guards a few episodes ago on Legion.
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Subject: Re: The single main season-long villain is getting old. [Re: Dakota]
Posted Tue May 22, 2018 at 10:35:10 am CDT (Viewed 793 times) |
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Quote:
Quote: I don't think the show should end, Season 1 and 2 were fine, 3 had its moments and 4 has been off the rails. I would like to see new writers and a retooling of the show for Season 5.
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I think they need to move away from the single villain seasons. It gets old to see them battle and lose continually until the very end. It makes many episodes a waste of time because you know the villain can't be stopped yet since they have to be there for the season finale.
Quote: If they had multiple story arcs in a year, then it would work better because you wouldn't know if they would be able to stop the villain or not in any single episode.
Quote: I am somewhat annoyed that they keep showing Ferris Air. Is that just a tease or are they eventually going to do Green Lanterns?
They shouldn't waste time with this dumb Batwoman crossover next season. The crossover should be about Barry and Oliver meeting Hal (their mutual best buddy in the comics).
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Subject: Time Travel [Re: Reverend Meteor]
Posted Tue May 22, 2018 at 02:33:02 pm CDT (Viewed 992 times) |
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Well all Barry should have to do is go back a few minutes in time and intercept Devoe as he enters RF's time vault and gives him a flash-punch that sends him into rutabaga land for a few days
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