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First of all, Captain America, if he had to go, went out with a bang. Brubaker did an excellent job on this issue, it's one of the best I've ever read, and included the full gamit of Cap's mythology: WW II, the super solider program, Bucky, the Red Skull, the Falcon, Crossbones, Sister Sin, Sharon Carter (oh my), Nick Fury, and even a resurrected Doctor Faustus, whom I was very glad to see figuratively smoking his pipe again.

A very powerful issue with clear allusions to the Kennedy assassination. Bravo, Ed. A sterling job.

Next, Mighty Avengers. Well, it certainly felt 100% more like the Avengers than anything we've seen since before 'Chaos.' It was full of holes all the way through, but of the kind I can forgive, though why Jan, Tony, Simon, and Natasha didn't recognize moloids and the Mole Man's monsters is completely unexplainable. and why weren't Jan's and Natasha's previous Avengers-leadership positions mentioned? Both Tony and Carol should totally be aware of that!

Also, with all the heroes available for membership, Ares? A total wild card, instead of She Hulk, Hercules, and Photon? So now they've got the Sentry, whose membership was still not adequetely explained (which Carol acknowledged in her wonderful--and welcomed--thought balloons) and Ares, who may develop into an interesting character, but whose membership really makes no sense.

I think the story was well-told, but having Iron Man be invaded by and transformed in a female Ultron seems to be a bit much to ladel on this character at this time, with everything that's happened and resulted from CW. Does Tony now have a vagina? A mechanical vagina? Where did Tony actually go?

Having Ultron invade Tony via a download was an expected idea in this day and age, BUT shouldn't Tony have been 100% secured against such invasions, if we're supposed to believe that he's so technologically on top of things?

I'm glad to say I look forward to the next issue.

Uncanny X-Men: Brubaker is doing a great job on this book, though I admit I think it's starting to drag a bit (as is Planet Hulk slightly), and might have been better as an 8-parter instead of a 12. But his characterization is dead-on, and Lorna is Lorna again (which means a whole lot to me), and it looks like she and Alex will patch up their romantic differences. It's great to see the new characters, Deathbird, Li'landra, Chod, Corsair, and the whole crew. This may not be what everyone wants from an X-book, but I'm really digging it, and the art is terrific.

The Initiative special: This was an enjoyable read all the way through, and I comment Ellis and Bendis, and Silvestri on the art. The use of the Collective, Reed Richards, and Sasquatch was effective, and it helped round out Bendis' weak 'Collective' NA arc. Ellis' Thuderbolts section was true to form, though why Silvestri decided to physically portray the Radioactive Man as a huge-toothed Chinese stereotype out of the Karloff 'Mask of Fu Manchu' from 1932 is beyond me.

The section with Ms. Marvel and Spider Woman was okay, though I don't really know what the point of it was. The poor Grey Gargoyle was used as cannon fodder, which I don't appreciate. I don't for a moment buy that the GG couldn't take down Spider Woman. He's got all these powers, and yet he's chronically used as a helpless patsy. No thanks to that.

One of the best of the week was Meltzer's JLA arc closer about the Red Tornado, Eclipso, and Solomon Grundy. Holy moly! Talk about violence, drama, suspense, great dialog, action, and pizzazz. This book had it all, though I think there were a few holes.

My NYC comic shop was jammed-packed, with crews from the AP and Reuter's on hand, as well as local news stations, to cover the death of Captain America. The check-out line wrapped all the way around the inside of the store, which means three long columns of buyers, each column containing about 100 people. It was a madhouse, and all due to the death of our beloved hero.


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Jovian




> First of all, Captain America, if he had to go, went out with a bang.


WENT OUT WITH A BANG?!?!?!?!?!?!


are you kidding?? that was the most pathetic killing off of an icon I have ever seen or heard of.



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Tiger Shark




Cap is probably my all-time favorite Marvel character, but once we knew it was happening and 'had happened,' the best we could do is hope that the issue is outstandingly and repsectfully written. And I thought it was; you didn't.

I seriously doubt it will ast for very long. And in The Iniative, Carol Danvers told Spider Woman Cap wasn't dead, but was being cared for by SHIELD. Why? Who knows?


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Dr. Shallot




Before my comments TS, I'm holding you to your promise of giving the FF a shot now that McDuffie is on board. This anniversary issue was excellent and McDuffie has injected more character and enthusiasm into this title that it has seen in years, even while still dealing with the aftermath of CW. Next issue looks to be the start of a new era.



> First of all, Captain America, if he had to go, went out with a bang. Brubaker did an excellent job on this issue, it's one of the best I've ever read, and included the full gamit of Cap's mythology: WW II, the super solider program, Bucky, the Red Skull, the Falcon, Crossbones, Sister Sin, Sharon Carter (oh my), Nick Fury, and even a resurrected Doctor Faustus, whom I was very glad to see figuratively smoking his pipe again.
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> A very powerful issue with clear allusions to the Kennedy assassination. Bravo, Ed. A sterling job.

I agree. While I don't believe with the idea in principle, Brubaker did a great job of making Cap's death a powerful story. After his weepy surrender in CW and his pathetic verbal beat down by Sally Floyd in Frontline, Brubaker, with few words, restored Cap's heroic nature. Whle I don't know if I'll continue to pick up this book I'm very interested to see how the Sharon Carter development works out. And I still think the add with the sexy blonde licking the vanilla ice cream distracted me from full enjoyment of the few final panels. \:\-\)
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> Next, Mighty Avengers. Well, it certainly felt 100% more like the Avengers than anything we've seen since before 'Chaos.' It was full of holes all the way through, but of the kind I can forgive, though why Jan, Tony, Simon, and Natasha didn't recognize moloids and the Mole Man's monsters is completely unexplainable. and why weren't Jan's and Natasha's previous Avengers-leadership positions mentioned? Both Tony and Carol should totally be aware of that!
>
> Also, with all the heroes available for membership, Ares? A total wild card, instead of She Hulk, Hercules, and Photon? So now they've got the Sentry, whose membership was still not adequetely explained (which Carol acknowledged in her wonderful--and welcomed--thought balloons) and Ares, who may develop into an interesting character, but whose membership really makes no sense.
>
> I think the story was well-told, but having Iron Man be invaded by and transformed in a female Ultron seems to be a bit much to ladel on this character at this time, with everything that's happened and resulted from CW. Does Tony now have a vagina? A mechanical vagina? Where did Tony actually go?
>
> Having Ultron invade Tony via a download was an expected idea in this day and age, BUT shouldn't Tony have been 100% secured against such invasions, if we're supposed to believe that he's so technologically on top of things?
>
> I'm glad to say I look forward to the next issue.

I haven't read this issue yet, but I flipped through it. I'm going to give this series my standard 3 issue test. One comment about the issue: the reason I flipped through it was to see how Bendis used thought balloons. One advance review I read on the issue indicated that Bendis used them like never before! These aren't you daddy's thought balloons! Upon review I certainly didn't see them used in any new fancy way that hasn't been done before. I'm glad to see them back. Now that Bendis is using them again perhaps Joe Q will say their hip and sophisticated again.
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> Uncanny X-Men: Brubaker is doing a great job on this book, though I admit I think it's starting to drag a bit (as is Planet Hulk slightly), and might have been better as an 8-parter instead of a 12. But his characterization is dead-on, and Lorna is Lorna again (which means a whole lot to me), and it looks like she and Alex will patch up their romantic differences. It's great to see the new characters, Deathbird, Li'landra, Chod, Corsair, and the whole crew. This may not be what everyone wants from an X-book, but I'm really digging it, and the art is terrific.

Arghh! Did this come out, I didn't even see it. All the high-priced issues that came out yesterday are putting a dent in my wallet. Next week maybe.
>
> The Initiative special: This was an enjoyable read all the way through, and I comment Ellis and Bendis, and Silvestri on the art. The use of the Collective, Reed Richards, and Sasquatch was effective, and it helped round out Bendis' weak 'Collective' NA arc. Ellis' Thuderbolts section was true to form, though why Silvestri decided to physically portray the Radioactive Man as a huge-toothed Chinese stereotype out of the Karloff 'Mask of Fu Manchu' from 1932 is beyond me.
>
> The section with Ms. Marvel and Spider Woman was okay, though I don't really know what the point of it was. The poor Grey Gargoyle was used as cannon fodder, which I don't appreciate. I don't for a moment buy that the GG couldn't take down Spider Woman. He's got all these powers, and yet he's chronically used as a helpless patsy. No thanks to that.

Haven't read that one either, but I did notice the depiction of Radioactive Man. Silvestri's art looks solid in the main story. I've already lost interest in Thunderbolts. At $4.99 this was a little steep and I thought it would showcase a bit more of "The Initiative" series.
>
> One of the best of the week was Meltzer's JLA arc closer about the Red Tornado, Eclipso, and Solomon Grundy. Holy moly! Talk about violence, drama, suspense, great dialog, action, and pizzazz. This book had it all, though I think there were a few holes.

Ah screw it, I'm going back to day and picking up the stuff I missed. I put this back on the shelp, as the $3.50 price tag put me over my limit.
>
> My NYC comic shop was jammed-packed, with crews from the AP and Reuter's on hand, as well as local news stations, to cover the death of Captain America. The check-out line wrapped all the way around the inside of the store, which means three long columns of buyers, each column containing about 100 people. It was a madhouse, and all due to the death of our beloved hero.


At least any new readers coming in to check this issue out got a solid story. Cap could have easily yelled "get down" and rolled, but his heroic nature shined through. We'll have to see if any new batch of readers gained from this death stick around.



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Jovian




> Cap is probably my all-time favorite Marvel character, but once we knew it was happening and 'had happened,' the best we could do is hope that the issue is outstandingly and repsectfully written. And I thought it was; you didn't.
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> I seriously doubt it will ast for very long. And in The Iniative, Carol Danvers told Spider Woman Cap wasn't dead, but was being cared for by SHIELD. Why? Who knows?

it was kinda lame that he died to a sniper while in custody. In custody to go on trial for war crimes no less.

the whole thing felt to me like they (MU powers that be) had no idea what to do with Cap now. Since as Sally Floyd pointed out, that he is basically just an old fossil.

So they 'kill' him off.

plus I think it was shodily written as well. Why didnt they just get every single villain from Cap's past and make them all in on the plot?

oh wait, they did.






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> Cap is probably my all-time favorite Marvel character, but once we knew it was happening and 'had happened,' the best we could do is hope that the issue is outstandingly and repsectfully written. And I thought it was; you didn't.
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> I seriously doubt it will ast for very long. And in The Iniative, Carol Danvers told Spider Woman Cap wasn't dead, but was being cared for by SHIELD. Why? Who knows?

According to Burbaker and Brevoort, it's just a swerve. Captain America is dead. Ms. Marvel said what she said as a way to trap Spider-Woman, and the repurcussions of the MM/SW encounter will be seen in upcoming issues of NEW AVENGERS, while the reactions to Cap's death continue on in CAPTAIN AMERICA #26-33, a nine-part storyline. The question is....who will be the new Captain America? Likely Bucky/Winter Soldier, but we'll see. In any case, I hope Winter Soldier finds the Red Skull and his cronies and wipes them all out. I haven't even read the issue yet, and I already hate the Red Skull more than I already had.


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Tiger Shark




...and on and on. I think it was a take on the Kennedy assassination, as I said; clearly it was. Why, I'm not sure, but that's the approach Bru took. I thought the writing was excellent and responsible. But I'm not pleased that it had to happen.


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Tiger Shark




I loved BEYOND!, and where McDuffie goes, I will follow; I've been waiting to see the the FF fully revitalized for many a year--maybe since the Simonson era. My wallet is getting tight too with all these minies and extra books to pick up, but I'll gladly get the new FF.

I'm glad you feel as I do about Cap # 25, if it had to happen. It was just beautifully done, and had a dreamlike quality. The twist at the end with Sharon was fantastic--and I admit I didn't see it coming. Did you? The only major figure missing was Diamondback, which is okay by me.

I think you'll like MA # 1. It's leagues better than NA, and any issue of NA that I can recall, even though Cho's art leaves me cold.

If the tone and spirit remains as it is in this issue, I'll be on board. I actually felt like the Avengers were back. And the thought balloons really added a lot, though there was nothing at all revolutionary about their use, which was purely standard. I hope they will continue to appear.

Go get Uncanny! Got Get Uncanny! And don't miss JLA. I mean it: Holy Moly! It was simply amazing---I was literally on the edge of my subway seat....jaw agape. Really powerful in a way NA hasn't come close to being.

But you can basically skip The Iniative (I can't spell it), since it's basically just a promo for forthcoming books, and is padded with pages from Cap # 25 and MA #1 and the current issue of IM.

Yes, I agree about new and newer readers. They're seeing Cap shine in his darkest hour, and, as I said yesterday, let's face it: Cap, the Wasp, T'Challa, Angel, Hawkeye, Mantis, Nighthawk, the Beast, Reed Richards, Prof. Xavier, Tigra, Hellcat, the Black Widow, the Falcon, even Doctor Strange: one of them was bound to fatally take a bullet sooner or later, just as the Jester did from the Punisher. These are basically human men and women. They don't have skin or costumes of adamantium; they don't have healing factors.

Thank you, Doc.




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> First of all, Captain America, if he had to go, went out with a bang. Brubaker did an excellent job on this issue, it's one of the best I've ever read, and included the full gamit of Cap's mythology: WW II, the super solider program, Bucky, the Red Skull, the Falcon, Crossbones, Sister Sin, Sharon Carter (oh my), Nick Fury, and even a resurrected Doctor Faustus, whom I was very glad to see figuratively smoking his pipe again.

My little shop was sold out, but I assumed I wasn't missing anything since I'd been thoroughly spoiled. Sounds like I still need to get a copy of this. Brubaker's a good solid writer and has voiced his opinion on how this has and will work out. I hope he does Cap justice. Well written or not, though, I'm still disturbed that the symbol of America fell on the steps as he was about to be tried for crimes against the country. that's not something I can let go of easily.


> Next, Mighty Avengers. Well, it certainly felt 100% more like the Avengers than anything we've seen since before 'Chaos.' It was full of holes all the way through, but of the kind I can forgive, though why Jan, Tony, Simon, and Natasha didn't recognize moloids and the Mole Man's monsters is completely unexplainable. and why weren't Jan's and Natasha's previous Avengers-leadership positions mentioned? Both Tony and Carol should totally be aware of that!

I only had a quick read through of this, but agree with most of your points. It WAS fun, we don't know what's actually happened to Moley's folk, but at least it looks like something that'll be adressed and a contributing part of the plot rather than something mentioned then forgotten by the writers but not the readers. They unspoken moments with Stark and Carol were worth the ticket price.

> Also, with all the heroes available for membership, Ares? A total wild card, instead of She Hulk, Hercules, and Photon? So now they've got the Sentry, whose membership was still not adequetely explained (which Carol acknowledged in her wonderful--and welcomed--thought balloons) and Ares, who may develop into an interesting character, but whose membership really makes no sense.

Well, come now. Does it have to make sense? He's popular and Bendis tosses in popular characters. Logic often has little to do with it.

> I think the story was well-told, but having Iron Man be invaded by and transformed in a female Ultron seems to be a bit much to ladel on this character at this time, with everything that's happened and resulted from CW. Does Tony now have a vagina? A mechanical vagina? Where did Tony actually go?

I wanted to believe, and still might, that Stark wasn't physically in that armor. The way it twisted and squirmed made it seem all inorganic, so I'm thinking there's no man in the tin suit and the new Ultrona is all robot. Might explain the army of Iron Men on the other cover, if they can be remote controlled and Ultron gets through the controls then he has them all.

> Having Ultron invade Tony via a download was an expected idea in this day and age, BUT shouldn't Tony have been 100% secured against such invasions, if we're supposed to believe that he's so technologically on top of things?


Shark Shark Shark. There you go with the logic again. Modern Marvel is about saying what WAS is wrong and faulty unless it suits the story \:\)

> I'm glad to say I look forward to the next issue.

Me too, and that's saying A LOT. I'm a serious Bendis disliker..

> Uncanny X-Men: Brubaker is doing a great job on this book, though I admit I think it's starting to drag a bit (

Actually it was dragging a bit a while ago, I've dropped this title \:\(

> The Initiative special: This was an enjoyable read all the way through, and I comment Ellis and Bendis, and Silvestri on the art. The use of the Collective, Reed Richards, and Sasquatch was effective, and it helped round out Bendis' weak 'Collective' NA arc. Ellis' Thuderbolts section was true to form, though why Silvestri decided to physically portray the Radioactive Man as a huge-toothed Chinese stereotype out of the Karloff 'Mask of Fu Manchu' from 1932 is beyond me.

This got me very excited for Omega, but I've gotta say as little interest I had in the Doom-bolts this just made me less interested. Yay! They're badguys and they beat the crap out of folks for fun and profit.

> The section with Ms. Marvel and Spider Woman was okay, though I don't really know what the point of it was. The poor Grey Gargoyle was used as cannon fodder, which I don't appreciate. I don't for a moment buy that the GG couldn't take down Spider Woman. He's got all these powers, and yet he's chronically used as a helpless patsy. No thanks to that.

Only way I can excuse the manhandling of GG is if Drew had him all pheromoned up or something, otherwise he's WAY out of her class.

> One of the best of the week was Meltzer's JLA arc closer about the Red Tornado, Eclipso, and Solomon Grundy. Holy moly! Talk about violence, drama, suspense, great dialog, action, and pizzazz. This book had it all, though I think there were a few holes.

If not for the FF:END I'd call this the book of the week. Dear GAD was that a well written and illustrated story. Then again how long were we waiting for it?

FF:THe END was unlike any other END story before it and made this lifelong fan of the Four shed a tear of happiness(given I read it in the morning after a B-Day drinking bash and before the coffee had me totally awake)The last page image was awesome! DOOM is Eternal \:\)


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> I loved BEYOND!, and where McDuffie goes, I will follow; I've been waiting to see the the FF fully revitalized for many a year--maybe since the Simonson era. My wallet is getting tight too with all these minies and extra books to pick up, but I'll gladly get the new FF.


I think that was the deal. Didn't know it'd be a $5 book, but I ain't worried. I forgot about this book being out on the 7th because I'd gotten an early copy. You'll like it!




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> > Cap is probably my all-time favorite Marvel character, but once we knew it was happening and 'had happened,' the best we could do is hope that the issue is outstandingly and repsectfully written. And I thought it was; you didn't.
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> > I seriously doubt it will ast for very long. And in The Iniative, Carol Danvers told Spider Woman Cap wasn't dead, but was being cared for by SHIELD. Why? Who knows?
>
> According to Burbaker and Brevoort, it's just a swerve. Captain America is dead. Ms. Marvel said what she said as a way to trap Spider-Woman, and the repurcussions of the MM/SW encounter will be seen in upcoming issues of NEW AVENGERS, while the reactions to Cap's death continue on in CAPTAIN AMERICA #26-33, a nine-part storyline. The question is....who will be the new Captain America? Likely Bucky/Winter Soldier, but we'll see. In any case, I hope Winter Soldier finds the Red Skull and his cronies and wipes them all out. I haven't even read the issue yet, and I already hate the Red Skull more than I already had.


I have a feeling that we'll eventually get a Punisher/Winter Soldier showdown. Castle is going to be PISSED that Crossbones killed Captain America, since Cap was the only one who trusted him in Civil War. (He also has Cap's mask.) Bucky is also going to be a bit upset since...well, I don't have to spell this one out. The thing is, I don't see these two getting along very well, and eventually Winter Soldier is going to want the mask back and I don't think that the Punisher is going to want to give it to him.


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Funkguerilla





I'm really glad you dug Mighty Avengers, I too totally loved it. I commented to a buddy of mine that I didn't think Bendis could write this kind of story, but I'm really glad he proved me wrong. Anyway, you said some things I wanted to comment on.

> and why weren't Jan's and Natasha's previous Avengers-leadership positions mentioned? Both Tony and Carol should totally be aware of that!

I thought they did mention Jan's previous Leader role. I'll need to check, but I do believe they talked about it, albeit briefly.

Black Widow, however, was never mentioned having lead the Avengers, you're right.

> Also, with all the heroes available for membership, Ares? A total wild card, instead of She Hulk, Hercules, and Photon?

Well yeah. Did you miss that section where Tony talked about needing not only a God on the team, but someone who wouldn't be afraid to do what needed to be done? A 'thor/wolverine' type? I absolutely dig She-Hulk, Hercules, and Photon (of course the version you hate), but none of them fill that role. Plus Herc is probably a fugitive.

Every new Avengers line up needs some kind of new blood in it, it keeps things fresh.

>So now they've got the Sentry, whose membership was still not adequetely

you didn't think so? Even with Tony's comments about needing to be there to train poor ol'Bob to be the hero he should be? That they didn't want to have a repeat of what they had with Wanda when they ignored her craziness? I felt like it was a good reason.

>Does Tony now have a vagina? A mechanical vagina?

LOL!

Quote of the year!

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> Having Ultron invade Tony via a download was an expected idea in this day and age, BUT shouldn't Tony have been 100% secured against such invasions, if we're supposed to believe that he's so technologically on top of things?

It certainly makes Ultron into a huge threat if he can corrupt Tony's super hi-tech system, doesn't it? Would you rather Tony reject him from his system with no more than a thought?

> I'm glad to say I look forward to the next issue.

Me too. Dammit! I don't want to buy monthlies!

-The Funk



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Funkguerilla




>One comment about the issue: the reason I flipped through it was to see how Bendis used thought balloons. One advance review I read on the issue indicated that Bendis used them like never before! These aren't you daddy's thought balloons! Upon review I certainly didn't see them used in any new fancy way that hasn't been done before. I'm glad to see them back.

Currently I'm neck deep in old issues of Fantastic Four, and other 'classic' Marvel tales, that are chock full of traditional thought balloons, and I'll tell you, Bendis' are totally different.

Instead of being chock full of story and character exposition, as is the classic way of doing things, bendis' were a more natural way of thinking.

For instance during the conversation that Carol and tony were having, I could tell that Tony was distracted because he was thinking about equations and what-not, instead of thinking "Being the new head of SHEILD makes me split my attention between future actions and what's happening now, but I dare not let carol know that she doesn't have my full attention".

Further as Tony tells Carol that he needs her to lead, her simple thought of "Argg", followed by her comments tactfully questioning Tony's decision let me know that she wasn't too keen on the idea much more efficiently and sophisticatedly (is that a word?) than her thinking "I really don't like this idea of leading the Avengers, but I can't let Tony know that. I'll need to phrase this next question very carefully".

And so on.

Certainly not 'your daddy's thought balloons'. I dig'em though.

-The funk


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Funkguerilla





because he's been doing this amazing job of making not only Cap a great hero, but making his rogue's gallery really intimidating and scary. And I never thought there'd be a day when I'd say that about Armin Zola.

> it was kinda lame that he died to a sniper while in custody. In custody to go on trial for war crimes no less.

Really? Because I thought it made him an ever greater hero in that while being lead to trial he still did everything he could to save that federal marshal's life. Not only that, but for the fatal shots to be delivered by his girlfriend who had been slowly brainwashed into a sleeper agent is such a great story point.

> the whole thing felt to me like they (MU powers that be) had no idea what to do with Cap now.

> plus I think it was shodily written as well. Why didnt they just get every single villain from Cap's past and make them all in on the plot?
>
> oh wait, they did.

So I take it you haven't been reading Bru's Cap; this is something he's been building to for a while. Get your hands on some of the trades, I think you might be changing your tune.

-the funk


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> I seriously doubt it will ast for very long. And in The Iniative, Carol Danvers told Spider Woman Cap wasn't dead, but was being cared for by SHIELD. Why? Who knows?

JQ claims that was a lie as Carol was trying to 'trap' SW, which is a lousy method of trapping her. Not sure what that meant, seemed to me Carol was pretty straight up with SW and did what they should have been doing during CW..TALKING to one another about their situation rather than knocking their friends' teeth in.


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..and it was those that really gave me hope for ther future of Mighty Avengers.

If you look at the little 'info' bar for each character while they're picking the new team, I think you'll see some mistakes. I don't even think Natasha is listed an an Avenger (though she is listed as a Champion), much less a longtime former leader of the team.

I did see and read, of course, the information Tony provided about Sentry & Ares, it just didn't fly with me as rational and believable. Most of Tony's commentary seemed flippant and silly to me--that's not how you select a truly reliable team, IMO. It seemed more or less off the top of his head.

And what is not Thor-like, in terms of power, about Sentry? He has the power of a million exploding suns, for gosh sake.

In terms of Wolverine, well, I think Natasha can be as ruthless and fierce as Mystique if and when she decides to be, and probably Wolverine too. Overall, the portrayal of Natasha was not completely to my liking--she's sleeker, more sophisticated, a little more of a liminal personality that the !+&?*#@-speaking person we saw here.

I agree having Ares there as a 'new to the mix' tradition was a good idea--I just think it could have come about in a much more believable way, like him showing up at the battle, joining in, and then asked to be a member.

I would have liked to see a real 'wild card' added, like Stingray, Moondragon or Mantis in addition to those selected.

Yup--Tony just became a she!

I don't think the thought balloon usage was as revolutionary as you do. They were used cleverly, a little too cleverly for my taste, but I was thrilled to see them in use again.

They add so much dimension and intelligence to the average story--and certainly could have helped HOM, SW, and CW a lot.

At least we've got an Avengers title that looks, walks, and smells like an Avengers title again. I'll probably drop NA at long last, or at least after the MA/NA slug-fest coming up.

I'm really hating NA and even beginning to resent it, I think. The last issue with the introduction of Strange and Iron Fist certainly didn't change my opinion.

And I still don't care who's in the Ronin suit unless it turns out to be Madcap, the Melter, YellowJacket II, the Jester, or, God Forbid, Polaris.

If it's Hawkeye, big deal. It seems likely to me that we won't find out forever and a day.

And now we've got a third Avengers ongoing coming into the mix!

Peace, FunkG.




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Shallot




And I have to wonder if the New Avengers don't fall into that trap as some of the preview art shows them trying to obtain a mysterious body on a slab.



Maybe they'll get there and Tony in a fake Cap suit will sit upright and say "gotcha"!



At which point I hope Iron Fist gives Iron Nazi a Burning Iron Rectal exam while Cage crushes Iron Testicles(hey, groin damage is his latest thing) and Spidey snaps Stark's Iron Neck saying "turn your head and die".



Like Cage says in the latest FF-Business is Business.

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> JQ claims that was a lie as Carol was trying to 'trap' SW, which is a lousy method of trapping her. Not sure what that meant, seemed to me Carol was pretty straight up with SW and did what they should have been doing during CW..TALKING to one another about their situation rather than knocking their friends' teeth in.



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CyberCoyote




> And I have to wonder if the New Avengers don't fall into that trap as some of the preview art shows them trying to obtain a mysterious body on a slab.

> Maybe they'll get there and Tony in a fake Cap suit will sit upright and say "gotcha"!

> At which point I hope Iron Fist gives Iron Nazi a Burning Iron Rectal exam while Cage crushes Iron Testicles(hey, groin damage is his latest thing) and Spidey snaps Stark's Iron Neck saying "turn your head and die".

> Like Cage says in the latest FF-Business is Business.

Aww. Spidey doesn't keep the bullet that took out May and use his strength to ram it repeatedly through Tony's chest yelling, "Hey! Take off the mask! I'll protect you!"?



"I don't think there's such a thing as a hero.
It's a lovely idea and this isn't meant to be cynical,
but I think people are just people who are capable of
very good of very bad things.... "

Mark Millar: Writer of Super Hero comic books

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> First of all, Captain America, if he had to go, went out with a bang. Brubaker did an excellent job on this issue, it's one of the best I've ever read, and included the full gamut of Cap's mythology: WW II, the super solider program, Bucky, the Red Skull, the Falcon, Crossbones, Sister Sin, Sharon Carter (oh my), Nick Fury, and even a resurrected Doctor Faustus, whom I was very glad to see figuratively smoking his pipe again.

Unfortunately this comic was sold out by the time I got to the store. Well, sold out is probably a nicer way to put it, that the comic shop employees are hoarding all the issues so they can jack the prices up to Bill Foster size. I'll wait for the trade. Or I won't. Doesn't really matter to me. It's just a story. Cap's died before and my day still goes by unchanged.

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> A very powerful issue with clear allusions to the Kennedy assassination. Bravo, Ed. A sterling job.
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> Next, Mighty Avengers. Well, it certainly felt 100% more like the Avengers than anything we've seen since before 'Chaos.' It was full of holes all the way through, but of the kind I can forgive, though why Jan, Tony, Simon, and Natasha didn't recognize moloids and the Mole Man's monsters is completely unexplainable. and why weren't Jan's and Natasha's previous Avengers-leadership positions mentioned? Both Tony and Carol should totally be aware of that!

To me this was a piece of crap. The whole issue was filled with two-faced bipolar attitudes between Tony and Carol's thoughts as opposed to their words. Clearly these two dont trust each other deep down. Great way to start a team.
Ares was boring. Simon doesn't even resemble Wonder-Man. Guess he got over his love for Wanda real quick. Doesn't even think of her these days. (On a side note, I kinda was hoping that Simon was actually the father of Wiccan & Speed as they appear in Young Avengers. Think about it. Vision sired Billy and Tommy who turned out to be pieces of Mephisto's soul, and they disappeared, at least until that bit during Chaos. But it wasn't until Wanda started sleeping with Simon did the teenage twins appear. Now since Vision was patterned from Simon, who was to say that Wanda didn't really have two sets of twins? The fake ones with Vizh, and the flesh and blood ones from Simon. Oh well, it was fun to think about.)
Plus, I always hated the Daktari jacket outfit.
I'm passing on future issues of Mighty. At least till Bendis is gone.
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> Also, with all the heroes available for membership, Ares? A total wild card, instead of She Hulk, Hercules, and Photon? So now they've got the Sentry, whose membership was still not adequately explained (which Carol acknowledged in her wonderful--and welcomed--thought balloons) and Ares, who may develop into an interesting character, but whose membership really makes no sense.

And bears no resemblance to the Ares we've seen as an Avengers protagonist as far back as in Roy Thomas' run on the series.

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> I think the story was well-told, but having Iron Man be invaded by and transformed in a female Ultron seems to be a bit much to ladle on this character at this time, with everything that's happened and resulted from CW. Does Tony now have a vagina? A mechanical vagina? Where did Tony actually go?

Tony Stark. The Fleshlight?

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> Having Ultron invade Tony via a download was an expected idea in this day and age, BUT shouldn't Tony have been 100% secured against such invasions, if we're supposed to believe that he's so technologically on top of things?

Maybe they can rename his monthly title to my subjectline.
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> I'm glad to say I look forward to the next issue.
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> Uncanny X-Men: Brubaker is doing a great job on this book, though I admit I think it's starting to drag a bit (as is Planet Hulk slightly), and might have been better as an 8-parter instead of a 12.

I agree. It seems to have lost it's momentum with me.

> But his characterization is dead-on, and Lorna is Lorna again (which means a whole lot to me), and it looks like she and Alex will patch up their romantic differences.

Chances are one will die. Alex is my guess.
Rachel's not coming back from this adventure either. I'd bet a shiny new nickle on it.

>It's great to see the new characters, Deathbird, Li'landra, Chod, Corsair, and the whole crew.

Huh. New??? Those four have been around since the seventies.

>This may not be what everyone wants from an X-book, but I'm really digging it, and the art is terrific.

On that I agree. Tan's done his best work ever on Uncanny.

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> The Initiative special: This was an enjoyable read all the way through, and I comment Ellis and Bendis, and Silvestri on the art. The use of the Collective,

Too lazy to archive myself, but I called it a long time ago that the new Guardian/Vindicator was gonna be the Collective guy. I'm not psychic, it's just that Marvel is so predictable these days.


>Reed Richards, and Sasquatch was effective, and it helped round out Bendis' weak 'Collective' NA arc. Ellis' Thunderbolts section was true to form, though why Silvestri decided to physically portray the Radioactive Man as a huge-toothed Chinese stereotype out of the Karloff 'Mask of Fu Manchu' from 1932 is beyond me.
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> The section with Ms. Marvel and Spider Woman was Okay, though I don't really know what the point of it was. The poor Grey Gargoyle was used as cannon fodder, which I don't appreciate. I don't for a moment buy that the GG couldn't take down Spider Woman. He's got all these powers, and yet he's chronically used as a helpless patsy. No thanks to that.
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Now this was the only part I liked. The interaction of Marvels seventies heroines. It was nice to see Carol acknowledge their past which goes way back to Avengers Annual #10

> One of the best of the week was Meltzer's JLA arc closer about the Red Tornado, Eclipso, and Solomon Grundy. Holy moly! Talk about violence, drama, suspense, great dialog, action, and pizazz. This book had it all, though I think there were a few holes.

Still wasn't worth the over inflated five dollar price tag in my opinion.

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> My NYC comic shop was jammed-packed, with crews from the AP and Reuter's on hand, as well as local news stations, to cover the death of Captain America. The check-out line wrapped all the way around the inside of the store, which means three long columns of buyers, each column containing about 100 people. It was a madhouse, and all due to the death of our beloved hero.

Man if that were me, I woulda used the mass confusion as an excuse to shoplift back issues. Not that I condone that. But when opportunity strikes...




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