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Sam Spade




Something occurred to me today....did they ever reveal who the unknown person was that helped Norman Osborn? In one of the backups, a shadowy figure gave him the means to deactivate the nannites in his body.

SS


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Sandman




> Something occurred to me today....did they ever reveal who the unknown person was that helped Norman Osborn? In one of the backups, a shadowy figure gave him the means to deactivate the nannites in his body.

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> SS



It was Tony Stark and he didn't help him but used him to attack a Alantian official in public view by controlling him through the nannites to get more superhumans to register through fear of war which can be considered a terrorist act.



Let's hope Iron Man really is a sleeper skrull or extremis crazy because all he has done is make things worse for the human race.


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Sam Spade




> > Something occurred to me today....did they ever reveal who the unknown person was that helped Norman Osborn? In one of the backups, a shadowy figure gave him the means to deactivate the nannites in his body.
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> It was Tony Stark and he didn't help him but used him to attack a Alantian official in public view by controlling him through the nannites to get more superhumans to register through fear of war which can be considered a terrorist act.
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Tony has done some questionable things, but that's too much. When/Where was it revealed to be Tony?

Thanks!!


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spiderprince




> Tony has done some questionable things, but that's too much. When/Where was it revealed to be Tony?
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Last issue of CW: Frontline when Sally Floyd confronted him. She made him seem like a hero (and I believe Jenkins intended for this to seem "heroic") but it came across as waaay too much. Tony jeapordizing not only the life of a foreign official, but almost starting a war against Atlantis? Thats over the line


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sinestro24




> > Tony has done some questionable things, but that's too much. When/Where was it revealed to be Tony?
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> Last issue of CW: Frontline when Sally Floyd confronted him. She made him seem like a hero (and I believe Jenkins intended for this to seem "heroic") but it came across as waaay too much. Tony jeapordizing not only the life of a foreign official, but almost starting a war against Atlantis? Thats over the line

I agree, I enjoyed Frontline up to that issue. Did not understand how Sally flipped flopped on her stance on Civil War here and why her and Ben would pass on on such a Huge story. It kills me how Millar and others at Marvel kept saying Iron Man was the Hero of Civil War when the things Stark did in Front Line, War Crimes, Civil War itself as well as some of the other cross over titles when he so many acts of Terrorism, violations of peoples Civil rights, and acting like a all out jack@$$.

I hope he has been a skrull for a while maybe I could see him as a likeable hero again.


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Sam Spade




> > > Tony has done some questionable things, but that's too much. When/Where was it revealed to be Tony?
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> > Last issue of CW: Frontline when Sally Floyd confronted him. She made him seem like a hero (and I believe Jenkins intended for this to seem "heroic") but it came across as waaay too much. Tony jeapordizing not only the life of a foreign official, but almost starting a war against Atlantis? Thats over the line
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> I agree, I enjoyed Frontline up to that issue. Did not understand how Sally flipped flopped on her stance on Civil War here and why her and Ben would pass on on such a Huge story. It kills me how Millar and others at Marvel kept saying Iron Man was the Hero of Civil War when the things Stark did in Front Line, War Crimes, Civil War itself as well as some of the other cross over titles when he so many acts of Terrorism, violations of peoples Civil rights, and acting like a all out jack@$$.
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> I hope he has been a skrull for a while maybe I could see him as a likeable hero again.


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Sandman




> > Tony has done some questionable things, but that's too much. When/Where was it revealed to be Tony?
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> > Thanks!!
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> She made him seem like a hero (and I believe Jenkins intended for this to seem "heroic")

I thought she was mocking him judging from the facial expression she had while she was clapping and they didn't seem too happy with him while they were leaving in the elevator.


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Sandman




> > > Tony has done some questionable things, but that's too much. When/Where was it revealed to be Tony?
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> > Last issue of CW: Frontline when Sally Floyd confronted him. She made him seem like a hero (and I believe Jenkins intended for this to seem "heroic") but it came across as waaay too much. Tony jeapordizing not only the life of a foreign official, but almost starting a war against Atlantis? Thats over the line
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> Did not understand how Sally flipped flopped on her stance on Civil War here and why her and Ben would pass on on such a Huge story.

I think they were afraid to make things worse if the people knew another super-hero did a terrible thing and it was the leader of the SHRA and the witch hunt was still going on.


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swmcbf




> > > Tony has done some questionable things, but that's too much. When/Where was it revealed to be Tony?
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> > > Thanks!!
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> > Last issue of CW: Frontline when Sally Floyd confronted him. She made him seem like a hero (and I believe Jenkins intended for this to seem "heroic") but it came across as waaay too much. Tony jeapordizing not only the life of a foreign official, but almost starting a war against Atlantis? Thats over the line
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> I agree, I enjoyed Frontline up to that issue. Did not understand how Sally flipped flopped on her stance on Civil War here and why her and Ben would pass on on such a Huge story. It kills me how Millar and others at Marvel kept saying Iron Man was the Hero of Civil War when the things Stark did in Front Line, War Crimes, Civil War itself as well as some of the other cross over titles when he so many acts of Terrorism, violations of peoples Civil rights, and acting like a all out jack@$$.
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> I hope he has been a skrull for a while maybe I could see him as a likeable hero again.

I believe Iron Man has been controlled by some outside force that has seriously distorted his personality and perceptions for a long time. That is if he isnt a skrull. It is possible(not likely) this could go all the way back to the events that led to teenage Tony. Was that the Crossing?


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