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Attok12




Who's your favorite writers and the writers at Marvel that you dislike?

Dislike-wise, um, Peter David and Dan Slott. Well known around here, heh.

Favorite-wise, right now it's Brain Reed and Christos Gage.

Curious experiment: I recently bought AVENGERS: THE INITIATIVE #14, if you can believe it. I bought it for SECRET INVASION purposes but also because of Gage. It will be interesting to see if I like the issue. Seriously. My second favorite writer and my second most disliked writer are writing the same issue. What in the holy blue hell is up with that? How's this going to work? How will this read? Will I like parts of it and hate the rest? Will I blame the wrong person for something I dislike (or even like)? Sweet Mary Sunshine, this will be some experiment, eh? I know at least Doc Shallot will be curious as to the results!


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Unusual Suspect




I'm loving Brubaker, Matt Fraction, Rucka, Christopher Yost, Mike Carey, and Christos Gage.

Not feeling Bendis, Guggenheim, Bob Gale.
The all time worst marvel writers are Jay Faerber and Chuck Austen.


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Doc Shallot




> Who's your favorite writers and the writers at Marvel that you dislike?
>
> Dislike-wise, um, Peter David and Dan Slott. Well known around here, heh.
>
> Favorite-wise, right now it's Brain Reed and Christos Gage.
>
> Curious experiment: I recently bought AVENGERS: THE INITIATIVE #14, if you can believe it. I bought it for SECRET INVASION purposes but also because of Gage. It will be interesting to see if I like the issue. Seriously. My second favorite writer and my second most disliked writer are writing the same issue. What in the holy blue hell is up with that? How's this going to work? How will this read? Will I like parts of it and hate the rest? Will I blame the wrong person for something I dislike (or even like)? Sweet Mary Sunshine, this will be some experiment, eh? I know at least Doc Shallot will be curious as to the results!

I am curious. I won't be reading the issue myself until at least next Wednesday, I didn't pick up the latest issue due to some budget constraints. Last issue, the one featuring Butterball(a character I believe you once proclaimed had to be a Slott creation) was one of my favorite comics of the year so far. Gage was the solo writer on that issue.

I don't have favorite and least favorite writers. If you are talking like and dislike on a personal level, I don't know enough about any writer enough personally to like of dislike them. Interviews are often not true indicators of someone's personality and I always try to separate the work from the writer. Slott and PAD are two of my favorite writers, they both have excellent track records. I don't track down everything they write though. For example, I'm not buying Amazing Spider-man, although for years during the JMS tenure I often proclaimed that Slott would be the perfect Spidey writer. The shabby treatment of my favorite character over the years keeps me away from the title, no matter who is writing it.

However, I'm loving JMS on both The Twelve and Thor(despite slow pacing), so while some writers aren't good fits on some titles they are perfect for others and their skills really shine.

If I have to give an answer I will say that in addition to Slott and PAD, I think Mike Carey, Ed Brubaker, Matt Fraction and the team of Abnett and Lanning are some of my faves right now.

I don't like Bendis on either Avengers title and I'm not feeling the love for Millar/Hitch over on the FF. However, I am enjoying Millar's "1985" so what can you say?


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Attok12




> > Who's your favorite writers and the writers at Marvel that you dislike?
> >
> > Dislike-wise, um, Peter David and Dan Slott. Well known around here, heh.
> >
> > Favorite-wise, right now it's Brain Reed and Christos Gage.
> >
> > Curious experiment: I recently bought AVENGERS: THE INITIATIVE #14, if you can believe it. I bought it for SECRET INVASION purposes but also because of Gage. It will be interesting to see if I like the issue. Seriously. My second favorite writer and my second most disliked writer are writing the same issue. What in the holy blue hell is up with that? How's this going to work? How will this read? Will I like parts of it and hate the rest? Will I blame the wrong person for something I dislike (or even like)? Sweet Mary Sunshine, this will be some experiment, eh? I know at least Doc Shallot will be curious as to the results!
>
> I am curious. I won't be reading the issue myself until at least next Wednesday, I didn't pick up the latest issue due to some budget constraints. Last issue, the one featuring Butterball(a character I believe you once proclaimed had to be a Slott creation) was one of my favorite comics of the year so far. Gage was the solo writer on that issue.

I think I thought Butterball was a Slott creation because I thought Slott was the solo writer on #13, not Gage. In any case, I heard Butterball was washed out, so me no see him in #14, I think. I also heard Devil-Slayer returns in #14, so I hope that is Gage's idea. : )


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Nyssie




Favorites include: Mike Carey, Fabian Nicieza, Christos Gage, Dan Slott, and Peter David.

Dislikes include: Frank Tieri... I can't think of any others, but I'm not really fond of any of the "major" writers, and that's simply because I find them overrated (and they NEVER seem to write any villainesses, only reusing the same ol' Wrecking Crew, Enforcers, et al).

> Who's your favorite writers and the writers at Marvel that you dislike?
>
> Dislike-wise, um, Peter David and Dan Slott. Well known around here, heh.
>
> Favorite-wise, right now it's Brain Reed and Christos Gage.
>
> Curious experiment: I recently bought AVENGERS: THE INITIATIVE #14, if you can believe it. I bought it for SECRET INVASION purposes but also because of Gage. It will be interesting to see if I like the issue. Seriously. My second favorite writer and my second most disliked writer are writing the same issue. What in the holy blue hell is up with that? How's this going to work? How will this read? Will I like parts of it and hate the rest? Will I blame the wrong person for something I dislike (or even like)? Sweet Mary Sunshine, this will be some experiment, eh? I know at least Doc Shallot will be curious as to the results!



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Nyssie




> Favorites include: Mike Carey, Fabian Nicieza, Christos Gage, Dan Slott, and Peter David.
>
> Dislikes include: Frank Tieri... I can't think of any others, but I'm not really fond of any of the "major" writers, and that's simply because I find them overrated (and they NEVER seem to write any villainesses, only reusing the same ol' Wrecking Crew, Enforcers, et al).
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> > Who's your favorite writers and the writers at Marvel that you dislike?
> >
> > Dislike-wise, um, Peter David and Dan Slott. Well known around here, heh.
> >
> > Favorite-wise, right now it's Brain Reed and Christos Gage.
> >
> > Curious experiment: I recently bought AVENGERS: THE INITIATIVE #14, if you can believe it. I bought it for SECRET INVASION purposes but also because of Gage. It will be interesting to see if I like the issue. Seriously. My second favorite writer and my second most disliked writer are writing the same issue. What in the holy blue hell is up with that? How's this going to work? How will this read? Will I like parts of it and hate the rest? Will I blame the wrong person for something I dislike (or even like)? Sweet Mary Sunshine, this will be some experiment, eh? I know at least Doc Shallot will be curious as to the results!



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fan4





> Who's your favorite writers and the writers at Marvel that you dislike?
>
> Dislike-wise, um, Peter David and Dan Slott. Well known around here, heh.

I knew you hated Slott, but I didn't know you hated Peter David.

My favorites are Slott, Kesel, Byrne, Kirby, Waid (pre-Authoratative Action mostly, though his last storyline where the FFers hunted their powers, was interesting.), Pachecho (sp?)

Least favorites are DeFalco, JMS, Duffie

I'm unsure where to rank Millar's FF run.
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> Favorite-wise, right now it's Brain Reed and Christos Gage.
>
> Curious experiment: I recently bought AVENGERS: THE INITIATIVE #14, if you can believe it. I bought it for SECRET INVASION purposes but also because of Gage. It will be interesting to see if I like the issue. Seriously. My second favorite writer and my second most disliked writer are writing the same issue. What in the holy blue hell is up with that? How's this going to work? How will this read? Will I like parts of it and hate the rest? Will I blame the wrong person for something I dislike (or even like)? Sweet Mary Sunshine, this will be some experiment, eh? I know at least Doc Shallot will be curious as to the results!



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Chris1962


Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008


Favorite would be Ed Brubaker for Captain America and Daredevil. Also Fabian N. for both of his runs on Thunderbolts and the Zemo miniseries.

Will not give disliked writers just to stay in the positive.


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spiderprince




Bendis is my fav writer. I thought his Daredevil was spectacular, his Avengers have gotten me to be a regular reader and well he's the reason Marvel gets so much of my money. Other favs are:

Brian Reed (didn't like his Ms. Marvel at the beginning, but lately its been awesome as was the Captain Marvel mini).
Dan Slott (guy writes a terrific Spidey)
Matt Fraction (don't like Punisher: WJ, but loved The Order and Iron Fist as well as Iron Man)
Ed Brubaker (don't like his X-Men and his DD is ok, but his Captain America is amazing)
Geoff Johns, Sinestro Corps Wat. Nuff Said
Chuck Dixon, his recent BATO work is great.

I don't care much for Hudlin or Winnick.

> Who's your favorite writers and the writers at Marvel that you dislike?
>
> Dislike-wise, um, Peter David and Dan Slott. Well known around here, heh.
>
> Favorite-wise, right now it's Brain Reed and Christos Gage.
>
> Curious experiment: I recently bought AVENGERS: THE INITIATIVE #14, if you can believe it. I bought it for SECRET INVASION purposes but also because of Gage. It will be interesting to see if I like the issue. Seriously. My second favorite writer and my second most disliked writer are writing the same issue. What in the holy blue hell is up with that? How's this going to work? How will this read? Will I like parts of it and hate the rest? Will I blame the wrong person for something I dislike (or even like)? Sweet Mary Sunshine, this will be some experiment, eh? I know at least Doc Shallot will be curious as to the results!



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FirstChAoS




> Who's your favorite writers and the writers at Marvel that you dislike?
>


My favorites are: Busiek, slott, nicieza, and the current crew on nova (I keep forgetting their names).

My least favorites are: Bendis, Millar, Austen, Ellis


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TJ Burns




> Who's your favorite writers and the writers at Marvel that you dislike?

Currently, or ever?

Currently, I'm a fan of Slott, Gage, DnA, Reed, Cebulski, Oeming, Brubaker, and Fraction. My absolute favorite, of course, is Jeff Parker.

I'm not enjoying the work of Bendis!, Millar, and Austen very much. (Although after picking up a Daredevil collection of Bendis's work at a yard sale last October, I can see where the man got his rep from. That was some good stuff. Also, love his Ares dialogue.)

There are a few writers that are in a weird place for me. PAD's She-Hulk went in a direction that made me drop the title, but, classically, I've enjoyed some of his work on X-Factor. (Never did like his Professor Hulk as much as I'd have suspected I should. I think I love the stupid rampaging Hulk too much to enjoy a green Hulk that isn't.) JMS's Thor is... well, terrible to me, but I'm really loving the Twelve enough to call it my favorite mini published currently. (I also hated his Spider-Man run.) Warren Ellis is someone I've went on record as saying should never be allowed near licensed properties, but his Thunderbolts has been very good. (I also loved his Thor run back pre-Onslaught, but hated his Druid miniseries with the white-hot intensity of a thousand suns. I think I run hot and cold with his work, really. Never a middle ground.)

Classic Marvel writers I'd like to see back are: Stern, Englehart, Busiek, and Nicieza, all of whom have proven they haven't lost a single step since leaving Marvel elsewhere. I miss Len Kaminski as well.


TJB


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Blue Beetle




> Who's your favorite writers and the writers at Marvel that you dislike?


Supreme Favorites: Jeff Parker, Abnett & Lanning, Zeb Wells.

Guys I Loved on Certain Books: JMS on Thor although I had to read the first eight issues in two sittings over two evenings, as I wouldn't have had the patience to read them monthly; Greg Pak on Hercules and Planet Hulk; Matt Fraction on Iron Man; Mark Millar on The Ultimates and Wolverine.

Guys I Hated on Certain Books: JMS on Spider-Man; Greg Pak on World War Hulk; Matt Fraction on Iron Fist but that may be the Brubaker influence; Mark Millar on Civil War; Slott, Guggenhem, and Gale on Spider-Man.

Writers I Usually Avoid: Bendis, Brubaker, Hudlin, Heinberg, Whedon, Loeb.




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Reverend Meteor




> > Who's your favorite writers and the writers at Marvel that you dislike?
> >
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> My favorites are: Busiek, slott, nicieza, and the current crew on nova (I keep forgetting their names).
>
> My least favorites are: Bendis, Millar, Austen, Ellis

um...those would actually be my choices as well.

And I know it's really trendy to hate John Byrne and all but I loved his writing pre-Avengers West Coast.


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fan4





> > > Who's your favorite writers and the writers at Marvel that you dislike?
> > >
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> >
> > My favorites are: Busiek, slott, nicieza, and the current crew on nova (I keep forgetting their names).
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> > My least favorites are: Bendis, Millar, Austen, Ellis
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> um...those would actually be my choices as well.
>
> And I know it's really trendy to hate John Byrne and all but I loved his writing pre-Avengers West Coast.

What's wrong with the West Coast Avengers? I loved the issues I found from that series.



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DCR


Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008
Posts: 1,861


Favorites:
*Brubaker: he made me like Cap America and does an awesome Cap America without Cap America comics
*Slott: he know how to use third string characters and make them cool and delivers awesome dialogues, mystery, humour and action in the same time
*Bendis: he made the Avengers great and write the best Spider Man book
*Vaughan: Runaways. nuff said
*Yost&Kyle: loathed their work at the beginning but love it now
*Ellis: it's a hit or miss, but Nextwave and Thunderbolts were awesome

Dislike:
*Casey: there are some of his comics I really like (Mr Majestic, X-Men Year One), but I find most of them boring with dislikable characters (Wildcats, Defenders, Uncanny X-Men...)
*Defalco: I liked him before, but now his name is associeted with what I consider one of the worst comics ever (Spider Ugly Girl)
*Grievoux: I's a bit early to judge him, but his New Warriors was one of the biggest desapointment I ever had in comics
*Reed: Like the fact he's using some obscur charcacters but Cap Marvel and Ms Marvel are incredibly boring.
*Loeb. I don't dislike ULtimates as much as the majority, but still find it pretty bad. And Hulk is a lamefest.


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Bubba2




> Who's your favorite writers and the writers at Marvel that you dislike?

I realize that everyone's tests will vary a bit, but I actually dislike anything by Bendis (which is most of the Marvel Universe these days), I am not enjoying Warren Ellis' treatment of the Thunderbolts, and I do not really like Brubaker on Cap (at least not since he killed Steve Rogers anyway). Oh and what started as an interesting homage was turned weird and almost unreadable (in my opinion) by Jonathan Lethem.
>
> Favorite-wise, right now it's Brain Reed and Christos Gage.

Well, I agree on these two, but I would add the two you disliked--Peter David and Dan Slott. I'm also enjoying Joe Casey on Defenders, and I tend to like most of Straczynski's material.

So, that's four dislikes and six likes, which means that my Marvel purchases are increasing a bit. Oh, and I'm liking Avengers: Initiative more lately myself. Let us know what you thought!

On a related question (but one that wasn't asked), who are the writers you would like to see at Marvel?

Me, I'd love to see Roger Stern, Kurt Busiek, Fabian Niecieza (or however you spell it!), Mark Waid, and Christopher Priest back. But I am old school, so I realize I am probably a minority here. Oh well, your mileage may vary!

Bubba2




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CyberCoyote

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First on a personal level I'd like to say I'd prefer if ALL the writers would please stick to PG-13 language in interviews. That makes me not like them at the moment. I know Bendis and Millar cuss like sailors all the time,I'm sure others do, but even Joey Q drops the F-Bomb around so who's setting the example? Stop it guys, speak professionally and let me allow my elementary aged kid come to a comic con without hearing protection.

Favorites: I really enjoys Slott and Reed the most in the Marvel mix right now. RAS has his high points, too. All of them seem to do plenty of research into their characters, the scripting is natural and unique character to character, the story's flow naturally.

Least Favorites: Eh.. Austen's stuff was pretty wretched. I don't really DISLIKE Bendis or Millar as much as most of my posts make it sound. I'm just befuddled by the adoration tossed on their work when it's pretty much average at best to me.

I read ONE Hudlin story, I will NEVER do so again. Just sayin'

All the guys that put the Annihilation stuff together are bang up first rate top of their game.





Pull List: Fantastic Four-Fire Power-Eternals-Champions-High Republic-Seven to Eternity
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mjyoung




> Who's your favorite writers and the writers at Marvel that you dislike?

Favorite: Bendis and Millar for most consistently great.

Others that I like often have mixed results, like Brubaker (great on DD and CA, bad on X-Men), or Fraction (great on IF, bad on Punisher), or Ellis (great on Thunderbolts, bad on Ultimate minis).

Worst: Way and Hudlin. Both are just horrible. There stories are bad, their characterizations are bad, their basic understanding of storytelling is bad, and they don't fit their stories into the greater context of the MU very well.


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Mark The Man-Thing




Favorites:

Peter David, Neil Gaiman, Daniel & Charles Knauf, Matt Fraction, Greg Pak, Ed Brubaker, David Michelinie & Bob Layton (though I don't think they're under contract with Marvel)

Least Favorite:

Reggie Hudlin, Chuck Austen (he's not with Marvel anymore, is he?), Joss Whedon (though I admit I tried to like him), Terry Kavanagh, Jeph Loeb

Somewhere in the middle:

Bendis, Millar, Ellis, JMS...all four of them are better with creator-owned projects.

Who should come back?

Kurt Busiek, Walt Simonson, Len Kaminski, Christopher Priest, Mark Waid, Bruce Jones (without Axel Alonso!)


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SEHS66




Dislike-Brian Bendis, Mark Millar, Peter David, JMS and Ed Brubaker

Like-Alan Davis, Jeph Loeb (sometimes) and Chris Claremont (sometimes)

Like to See-Roger Stern, Len Wein, Roy Thomas and Marv Wolfman.



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MysteryMan




> Who's your favorite writers and the writers at Marvel that you dislike?
>
> Dislike-wise, um, Peter David and Dan Slott. Well known around here, heh.
>
> Favorite-wise, right now it's Brain Reed and Christos Gage.
>
> Curious experiment: I recently bought AVENGERS: THE INITIATIVE #14, if you can believe it. I bought it for SECRET INVASION purposes but also because of Gage. It will be interesting to see if I like the issue. Seriously. My second favorite writer and my second most disliked writer are writing the same issue. What in the holy blue hell is up with that? How's this going to work? How will this read? Will I like parts of it and hate the rest? Will I blame the wrong person for something I dislike (or even like)? Sweet Mary Sunshine, this will be some experiment, eh? I know at least Doc Shallot will be curious as to the results!



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Mark The Man-Thing




> Dislike-Brian Bendis, Mark Millar, Peter David, JMS and Ed Brubaker
>
> Like-Alan Davis, Jeph Loeb (sometimes) and Chris Claremont (sometimes)
>
> Like to See-Roger Stern, Len Wein, Roy Thomas and Marv Wolfman.
>



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SEHS66




Why all the PAD hate?

I don't "hate" Peter David. I don't personally know the man. I just don't care for his writing style. Peter David seems to me to be the type of writer who instead of saying "can I tell a good Character X story?" He says "can I tell my story using Character X?" So he will bend, twist, fold and transform Character X to fit his story. So when he is all done Character X is no longer Character X. Peter David isn't the only one guilty of this. Many writers are doing this more and more. Also I don't think his "in" jokes are very funny.


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mjyoung




> Why all the PAD hate?
>
> I don't "hate" Peter David. I don't personally know the man. I just don't care for his writing style. Peter David seems to me to be the type of writer who instead of saying "can I tell a good Character X story?" He says "can I tell my story using Character X?" So he will bend, twist, fold and transform Character X to fit his story. So when he is all done Character X is no longer Character X. Peter David isn't the only one guilty of this. Many writers are doing this more and more. Also I don't think his "in" jokes are very funny.

His She-Hulk run is a perfect example of that.

When Slott did She-Hulk, a major part of the title was about her being a lawyer, the purpose of the title was about superhero law, being a lawyer was a major part of most of the stories, and her supporting cast was her law firm. She has even been a lawyer ever since her introduction.

But when Peter David came on, he changed all that. She no longer was a lawyer, becoming a bounty hunter instead. It's the equivalent of someone coming onto a Superman title and saying that they want to make Clark Kent an book writer.

He just has the tendency to do the same stories over and over, with the same characters. I loved the Madrox miniseries, but when he did X-Factor, I lost interest. I want to see a writer evolve instead of just falling into a pattern.


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fan4





> Why all the PAD hate?
>
> I don't "hate" Peter David. I don't personally know the man. I just don't care for his writing style. Peter David seems to me to be the type of writer who instead of saying "can I tell a good Character X story?" He says "can I tell my story using Character X?" So he will bend, twist, fold and transform Character X to fit his story. So when he is all done Character X is no longer Character X. Peter David isn't the only one guilty of this. Many writers are doing this more and more. Also I don't think his "in" jokes are very funny.

I've only read novels (and movie novelizations) of his. I haven't read his comicbook writings.



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Michael




> > Why all the PAD hate?
> >
> > I don't "hate" Peter David. I don't personally know the man. I just don't care for his writing style. Peter David seems to me to be the type of writer who instead of saying "can I tell a good Character X story?" He says "can I tell my story using Character X?" So he will bend, twist, fold and transform Character X to fit his story. So when he is all done Character X is no longer Character X. Peter David isn't the only one guilty of this. Many writers are doing this more and more. Also I don't think his "in" jokes are very funny.
>
> His She-Hulk run is a perfect example of that.
>
> When Slott did She-Hulk, a major part of the title was about her being a lawyer, the purpose of the title was about superhero law, being a lawyer was a major part of most of the stories, and her supporting cast was her law firm. She has even been a lawyer ever since her introduction.
>
> But when Peter David came on, he changed all that. She no longer was a lawyer, becoming a bounty hunter instead. It's the equivalent of someone coming onto a Superman title and saying that they want to make Clark Kent an book writer.
>
He's always been guilty of ignoring what came before. In his original X-Factor run, he ignored the fact that Alex had cheated on and tried to kill Lorna and that Claremont had turned Alex into a psychotic jerk. In his Captain Marvel series, he had Rick allow Marlo to enter into a relationship with Moondragon, forgetting that Moondragon had raped Thor. What kind of jerk doesn't care that his wife is dating a rapist? In his early Hulk issues, he brought the Leader back and never explained how the Leader survived falling into that volcano. He later had Ross become a general again, ignoring that Ross had committed treason by working with Modok. In one of his earliest Spider-Man stories, he had Peter let a group of thugs who tried to rape a woman go, ignoring almost all of Peter's characterization to date.
Michael


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