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Urban Cowboy




With Iron Man 2 we've seen War Machine, Black Widow, had a better look at Nick Fury, etc. That, along with Wolverine movies, X-Men movies, Fantastic Four movies, and Spider-Man movies, we've seen about a few dozen live action characters.

So my question here is, which ones got it "right", that is which ones are as good or better than their comic book counterparts?




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ChrisBechtloff




Iron Man Got it best. After that I would say Punisher War Zone. I know alot of people crapped on that movie but I loved it. That was the Punisher come to life.


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MysteryMan





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    Iron Man Got it best. After that I would say Punisher War Zone. I know alot of people crapped on that movie but I loved it. That was the Punisher come to life.


Pretty much agree...Spiderman is fairly good too though not as close as the 2 you mentioned.


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jwmccay3




The first Spider-Man was pretty close. The only major complaint that I would have with that first one is with MJ as the next door neighbor.

Magneto in the X-trilogy was pretty solid. Only criticism is that there was no explanation behind the total psychotic twist that we saw from him in the third film. Usually with Magneto in the comics, there is something behind his more psychotic turns.






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bd2999

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    With Iron Man 2 we've seen War Machine, Black Widow, had a better look at Nick Fury, etc. That, along with Wolverine movies, X-Men movies, Fantastic Four movies, and Spider-Man movies, we've seen about a few dozen live action characters.



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    So my question here is, which ones got it "right", that is which ones are as good or better than their comic book counterparts?


Iron man/Tony Stark is pretty close. I liked Tom Janes Punisher but he fits more with an early on Frank. Those are the ones that are probably nearest. Hugh Jackman was pretty good too but I did not like Wolverine Origins much. Nick Fury was decent if you go with the Ultimate version.




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Jared






As much as I love all three Spider-Man movies, including the vastly underrated Spider-Man 3, Tobey Maguire was badly miscast as Peter Parker. Ironically, Topher Grace would have been a much better choice, as he's just as skinny as one would expect Peter Parker to be, and we already know he's a master of the deadpan humor that is Spidey's trademark. Maguire would have been much better as the grim, humorless Eddie Brock that's everything Peter Parker could have been if he'd taken a darker path.

Kirsten Dunst was also badly miscast as Mary Jane. Someone like Anne Hathaway or Scarlett Johanssen, someone who's a drop-dead hottie-which Dunst most certainly is *not*, especially by the time the second and third films rolled around-would have been far better for the role. Not to mention Dunst plays her like a whiny, nagging shrew-exactly why we're supposed to sympathize with her is entirely beyond me.

That said, I still feel all three spider-films did a wonderful job in replicating a lot of the major themes of the comics, namely power, responsibility, and redemption. Just as I find the Spider-Man comics to be among the only things Marvel prints that are worth reading these days (aside from Spider-Girl, and possibly other things that Bendis and Millar haven't taken a creative dump on like they did with the Avengers and the Marvel Universe in general), the Spider-Man films are and remain my favorite Marvel films.


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Hatman




I know the FF movies weren't exactly critically acclaimed films (I still maintain if you shut of your brain and go in looking for a fun popcorn flick they're good), but I really think the first FF movie really nailed the Thing.

~Hat~


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ChrisBechtloff




I never thought the FF movie was nearly as bad as everyone says. Sure its wasnt what it should have been but it was ok. I thought the guy who played Reed really nailed it and Thing was well done as well. Really I think FF had one one real flaw, but it was a fatal flaw. Doom. They did not get Doom right at all. Bad casting and bad re-writing of his orgin and nature. Movie Doom sucked. And I mean its Doom, like probably the coolest most baddass vilian Marvel has and they turned it into that loser. Terrible.


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Unstable Molecule


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Agreed. Galactus as a cloud totally took away the "whoa!" factor as well. Better villains would have made these movies incredibly better.




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Madison Carter




If we're talking characters and not the full movies:

J. Jonah Jameson.


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FirstChAoS





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    The first Spider-Man was pretty close. The only major complaint that I would have with that first one is with MJ as the next door neighbor.


One thing about the spiderman movie bothered me. Spidey NEVER cracked jokes. The spidey I remembered CONSTANTLY cracked jokes and gave witty banter in battle. If spidey doesn't taunt, tease, and joke constantly in the villain fight he is NOT spidey.


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jwmccay3




Watch the first one again...in the ring with Buzzsaw and in his early fights with Norman, he does taunt him consistently. In the second one, he did not, which could have been explained by the relationship between him and Octavius at the beginning of the movie. Yeah, it was changed to make Octavius like a mentor to Parker (more along the lines of Curt Connors) and was more respectful as a result. There was also a darker tone to that movie. In the third film, I think that there was more focus on the villains and their background than on Parker & Spidey. They were trying to make the villains too likeable/sympathetic, and as a result they cut out the talk. You also have to add to the darkness/seriousness (no pun intended) of Parker in the black costume, which would take out a lot of that banter.

You are right though, there needs to be more taunting and joking...that's what made Spidey great in the books.


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