it's kind of pointless story with no depth
the "heroes" are random mostly and interchangeble
the deaths has no meanning and we have no idea what ultron did better this time so he could win.
marvel keep giving bendis this events and he keep writing empty calories stories with disapointing ends. this time the start was boring too.
you can see why hitch bailed in the middle. who can draw so much pointless talking heads?
will it get better?
provably not.
and who cares about Angela anyways?
or in other words - i love this event.

I never read anything about him bailing, and I don't think that he had a problem with the storyline. Certainly not with working with Bendis.

Hitch didn't bail, but he did say some negative things about the story and Bendis in general. For Bendis, he commented that there wasn't much of an interaction between the two and Hitch's contributions were non-existent. He also commented that Bendis's story was too conversation heavy as opposed to action oriented. It seems that this storyline and his abanonded Ultimate Captain America project is what lead to him leaving Marvel. He states that he's not bitter though, and I can imagine he is willing to go back to Marvel. (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=42680)

As for the story itself, I think it fails for alot of reasons. It's not connected to the main Marvel Universe, so fan's just aren't going to care as much about it. And while Marvel tries to maintain the hope that's is happening intune with the rest of the MU, it just doesn't feel that way. Comic fans have become cynical about change, so we know that these alternate/future storylines aren't going to last.

These stories also need a central character that the book can follow, at least for the first few issues. In Flashpoint you had the Flash. In House of M you had Wolverine. This story jumped around with the main characters from Hawkeye, Black Widow, Luke Cage, and now Wolverine.

And if you are going to do this type of alternate story, you have to include interesting takes on characters. Thomas Wayne Batman. Dictator Magneto. The only character that's different is Wolverine who has a new costume.

Fans also just weren't craving an event comic at this time. We just had AvX, and we know we got Infinity coming up. Structually, this comic should have been the last one for Bendis on the Avengers. It's already dragging out too long, and is one of the best examples of Bendis dragging out a storyline. This needed to be done like Siege, four to six issues, in and out.

Well, you are right about the cynicism where change is concerned. Mighty God King once wrote a bit on his blog about Civil War and all the changes that came from it, and the fact that just about every one was reversed. Steve Rogers came back from the dead and became Captain America again, Iron Man got four years of his memory wiped and his status quo was returned to a pre-CW point. The Act was repealed, and I think the only long running consequence was Bill Foster dying. Most sickening aspect for me? Avengers Prime, where Stark, Rogers and Thor all kissed and made up. It is, hands down, one of the worst comics I ever read. I'm glad I checked it out of the library and did not spend money on that crap.

Hitch was the wrong guy for this series. I remember the first work I saw him do was Storm Watch (I think that was him on Ellis' Storm Watch) and The Authority. The man is best used by illustrating huge blockbuster like action pieces.

Sadly, I bought Civil War, Secret Invasion, and Siege before I wised up.

More sadly, I knew after Civil War that I wouldn't like the next one, and knew absolutely after the next one that I would like the third, but I bought three of these things because I wanted to be able to talk about comics - and people who talk about comics were inevitably going to be talking about these silly things.

Finally, after the third, I just couldn't take it any more, and swore off these events.

I'll be buying Avengers Infinity but to me that's very different, because it's Hickman writing an Avengers story, and I like Hickman on Avengers. Infinity will just be more of the same. I won't be buying the tie-ins. I buy Iron Man so if that ties in, I'll be buying that as a matter of course.

Frankly, if Marvel NOW hadn't put Hickman on Avengers, I wouldn't be buying Marvel Comics at all any more. But I must say, I like Thunderbolts a lot right now, and Deadpool too, so while it's true that Hickman anchors me to the Marvel Universe, there are a few other books that I'm enjoying a lot, and which have nothing to do with what Hickman is doing.


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Oh, and I'll say this much for the Ultron mess that is currently under way: It serves as the lead-in for Avengers: A.I., which stars a character whose book I would probably buy if two six year olds were writing and drawing it - the Vision.

he is a professional and a good person that will never say it out loud but to ME it's clear that what happend

I hear where you are coming from. I am buying Hulk and Daredevil because I like Mark Waid's writing, so I am willing to purchase a title more out of loyalty to a writer than anything else.

I am also digging Thunderbolts, although I think Deadpool should be a little funnier in it.

Mark Millar (Who wrote it.) did not intend for Cap to die in the event. He had something else planned for him, something stupid from what I remember. He was going to de-power him and have him go back in time or something. Ed Brubaker was the one who wanted to kill him. And yes, I agree with you, I don't buy Stark and Steve being friends anymore after that. I still don't see the two of them getting past that so fast.

It was BENDIS! that broke me of the buying habit. Before him, I had to endure Austin's Avengers run before I learned that buying a crappy run on a title just to have a full run just means your collection has crappy comics in it that you paid money for.

So, thanks BENDIS! and Austin. I now think before I buy. "What are the odds that I will enjoy this comic?"

And that means VERY few "events".

Whatever Millar's ultimate plans for Steve were, it was his handling of Steve during Civil War that was so terrible.

Someone over at Scans Daily posted some pages from Mark Gruenwald's run when Captain America was being forced to work for the government again:

http://scans-daily.dreamwidth.org/4318720.html

Steve was written in a far more mature and reasonable manner here. Could he have done the same thing during Civil War? Not precisely; technically he is still a super human based on the Super Soldier Serum. But imagine if he had quit being Captain America and left the United States as a conscientious objector, pointing out how the United States government has allowed fear to dictate their actions and has essentially enslaved a portion of it's populace.

And make no mistake; it was slavery. You serve the government or we lock you up (That's the way it looked to me, when you look at The Avengers Initiative. There were a lot of characters there who were there against their will.). You're a super villain? We're going to inject nanites into your body that can kill you if you don't serve us. Was deportation even an option?

What was Steve's plan during Civil War? Can anyone give me his actual endgame strategy? Because he was written as being pretty darn stupid.