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https://www.cbr.com/transformers-35th-anniversary-4k-uhd/

If they would take the story boards of the scenes that were not finished when the movie was first released and animate them with the same techniques/animation style as the rest of the movie and insert them into the movie to make an extended edition, I would buy it.

I have seen the story boards and they make the battle of Autobot city and the fight between Optimus and Megatron even better.


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I probably own enough versions of this already, although better picture quality is somewhat of a selling point. It looks like most of the bonus features are holdover from the last release (25th Ann?) and some previous features are not mentioned, like the isolated musical score track.



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Yeah I just don't feel the need to get this version.

I've seen some online clips and the colors are brighter then ever....but that is it.


Again though if they take the story boards of the Autobot City battle scenes that were not animated and animate them with the same art and style of the rest of the movie and insert them in proper sequence to extend the battle, then I would get it.


Heh...wonder how many kids watching this movie for the first time these days will freak out over the death of Optimus?

If kids back then paid attention more and didn't freak out they would have realized Optimus still lived in the Matrix and his power was channeled into Rodimus.....

But the episode Dark Awakening didn't help the traumatized kids by having Undead Optimus stomping around either.

His return was a retcon, and it established permanent precedence that in any form of the franchise, Optimus will not stay dead for long and no one else can truly lead.


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    Yeah I just don't feel the need to get this version.



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    I've seen some online clips and the colors are brighter then ever....but that is it.



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    Again though if they take the story boards of the Autobot City battle scenes that were not animated and animate them with the same art and style of the rest of the movie and insert them in proper sequence to extend the battle, then I would get it.



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    Heh...wonder how many kids watching this movie for the first time these days will freak out over the death of Optimus?



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    If kids back then paid attention more and didn't freak out they would have realized Optimus still lived in the Matrix and his power was channeled into Rodimus.....



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    But the episode Dark Awakening didn't help the traumatized kids by having Undead Optimus stomping around either.



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    His return was a retcon, and it established permanent precedence that in any form of the franchise, Optimus will not stay dead for long and no one else can truly lead.


I know this discussion has happened here before, but as someone who was in the 11-13 age range in 84-86, I will always maintain that real mistake was doing it so soon. The toy line was only two years old, and you want to kill a whole bunch of characters and introduce new ones already? That's like killing multiple GI Joe characters after two years, or He-Man characters... or any other toy franchise after just two years. It doesn't seem like a way to get kids to be loyal to the toys when you do that.



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The idea I think was out of the old and in with the new. But yeah it was a mistake.

The Autobots that came to earth on the Ark were the ones getting killed, they could have lived and stayed on Earth while the series turned focus to Cybertron and other worlds in season 3 under Rodimus' leadership....


.....Rodimus I actually liked. he was new to leadership and growing into it and had the self doubt one would expect at being the new leader. Also I am sure he was plagued by guilt, it was his actions that enabled Megatron to blast Optimus, then he is revealed as the next Prime....


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I think one of the previous releases included Scramble City. That would be a nice legacy feature. I saw it once. Didn't it end on a cliffhanger that continued into some toy commercials?



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Yeah it was designed to intro characters to the audience/fans in Japan.

I did like how it showed Metroplex being built and how the combiners can switch limbs in battle to boost their might.


Also had the original cartoon continued, I wonder how they would have handled the fact that Optimus did not have the might to go against Galvatron?

Optimus vs Megatron = stalemate

Galvatron is Megatron upgraded, stronger and faster and thanks to that lava bath his circuits are damaged making him a berzerker.

Rodimus Prime however as the Chosen One and carrying the power of Optimus and all past leaders in him had enough power to handle Galvatron.

If the Matrix was fully charged Optimus could have used it to boost his power as he mentioned in Dark Awakening when he was pummeling Rodimus. Optimus' only advantage would have been if he was still coated in that special alloy that saved him from the plague. It could withstand heat and radiation thus rendering Galvatron's cannon useless and it withstood the shockwaves from an exploding sun.


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I really should watch those later seasons again. I watched 1-2 and the movie a lot growing up, but never saw much of 3.

I finally picked up the Headmasters/Victory/Masterforce DVD somewhere many years back and I started watching it but I was finding it a tad hard to follow. Maybe if I read some annotated notes as I went along ...



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Headmasters comes first then MF and Victory

Headmaster ignores the three part Rebirth series finale and starts a few years after Op was revived

In this series they are cybertrons that left the planet when the war was starting and evolved and developed their power differently.


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I think it came from them not being used to the idea that the toys had direct tie ins to cartoons. That was relatively new at the time.

Revamping toy lines every couple of years when the "Story" was only in commercials was easy, because the kids didn't have a strong "group mind" emotional attachment to them.

One of the interviews on the DVD extras has a writer say something like, "I thought I was clearing space on the shelves for the next year's toy line, I didn't realize I was killing an Icon."

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Yeah and on the Toys that Made us documentary about TF, they all flat out agreed killing off Optimus was a huge error.


An error that was compounded by bringing him back as Undead Optimus in Season 3, that episode was truly meant to make sure he was dead. He was never supposed to return.

Too bad though about Rodimus Prime, he certainly is demonized in the eyes of some of the fans these days.


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