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clayton




In a way that no spider-man comic has since civil war started. Its nice to see gwen from way back when she had a personality (before her hair became all strait and her uncle died) and despite peter parker now growing up in the 90s marvel time, the beatnik Coffee Bean prevails. LaRocca's art is stunning as well. It looks like his time off to develope a new style was well worth the wait.

Between this and Iron Fist, Fraction looks to be one of the best new additions to the Marvel family.


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> In a way that no spider-man comic has since civil war started. Its nice to see gwen from way back when she had a personality (before her hair became all strait and her uncle died)
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Huh. From the preview, I felt like the writer shoehorned an artificial contemporary Lindsey Lohan esque personality for Gwen that there's no actual basis for. It actually sorta irked me. It would be like if Harry Osborn started talking Shakespearian for no reason (okay, obviously not that bad, but still I wasn't a fan...). You can give her a personality by taking cues from earlier books and expanding it the best you can... not creating something out of nothing. But I'm probably in the minority of not being very excited about this book based on the preview.

> Between this and Iron Fist, Fraction looks to be one of the best new additions to the Marvel family.


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GuestGuy




> > In a way that no spider-man comic has since civil war started. Its nice to see gwen from way back when she had a personality (before her hair became all strait and her uncle died)
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> Huh. From the preview, I felt like the writer shoehorned an artificial contemporary Lindsey Lohan esque personality for Gwen that there's no actual basis for. It actually sorta irked me. It would be like if Harry Osborn started talking Shakespearian for no reason (okay, obviously not that bad, but still I wasn't a fan...). You can give her a personality by taking cues from earlier books and expanding it the best you can... not creating something out of nothing. But I'm probably in the minority of not being very excited about this book based on the preview.
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Well Aunt May under JMS is totally out of character when you compare her to other incarnations of the character. Most people haven't complained about that, because she became more interesting (Hopefully she'll die tho). But much like you I didn't like the way Gwen was portrayed in the flashback, but I'm still pretty excited about the issue. This reminds me of an ASM annual (85 I think) when Smythe came to the conclusion that MJ is Spider-Man, and we get some nice scenes from MJ. Hopefully we'll see the same in this annual.

> > Between this and Iron Fist, Fraction looks to be one of the best new additions to the Marvel family.


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clayton




> > In a way that no spider-man comic has since civil war started. Its nice to see gwen from way back when she had a personality (before her hair became all strait and her uncle died)
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> Huh. From the preview, I felt like the writer shoehorned an artificial contemporary Lindsey Lohan esque personality for Gwen that there's no actual basis for. It actually sorta irked me. It would be like if Harry Osborn started talking Shakespearian for no reason (okay, obviously not that bad, but still I wasn't a fan...). You can give her a personality by taking cues from earlier books and expanding it the best you can... not creating something out of nothing. But I'm probably in the minority of not being very excited about this book based on the preview.
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Gwen was totally like that when Ditko was on the book. Stuck up, and someone who thought herself too good for peter, but liked him anyways. After Romita came aboard and Mary Jane became an actual character instead of a throwaway joke between Peter and Aunt May, Gwen was shoehorned into the kind, sweet counterpoint to MJ's wild partygirl outlook.

> > Between this and Iron Fist, Fraction looks to be one of the best new additions to the Marvel family.


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dave




> > In a way that no spider-man comic has since civil war started. Its nice to see gwen from way back when she had a personality (before her hair became all strait and her uncle died)
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> Huh. From the preview, I felt like the writer shoehorned an artificial contemporary Lindsey Lohan esque personality for Gwen that there's no actual basis for. It actually sorta irked me. It would be like if Harry Osborn started talking Shakespearian for no reason (okay, obviously not that bad, but still I wasn't a fan...). You can give her a personality by taking cues from earlier books and expanding it the best you can... not creating something out of nothing. But I'm probably in the minority of not being very excited about this book based on the preview.
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That's because they never really gave her a personality before. Seriously, she was the most generic character to ever exist and is looked back on by fanboyism as the greatest woman ever just because of nostalgia. If she hadn't died she would be just another ex of Pete's.

> > Between this and Iron Fist, Fraction looks to be one of the best new additions to the Marvel family.


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> > > In a way that no spider-man comic has since civil war started. Its nice to see gwen from way back when she had a personality (before her hair became all strait and her uncle died)
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> > Huh. From the preview, I felt like the writer shoehorned an artificial contemporary Lindsey Lohan esque personality for Gwen that there's no actual basis for. It actually sorta irked me. It would be like if Harry Osborn started talking Shakespearian for no reason (okay, obviously not that bad, but still I wasn't a fan...). You can give her a personality by taking cues from earlier books and expanding it the best you can... not creating something out of nothing. But I'm probably in the minority of not being very excited about this book based on the preview.
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> That's because they never really gave her a personality before. Seriously, she was the most generic character to ever exist and is looked back on by fanboyism as the greatest woman ever just because of nostalgia. If she hadn't died she would be just another ex of Pete's.
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I agree in that I think the melodrama about Gwen's death is WAY overplayed and I have no nostalgia for her. I'm just a stickler for continuity and people being out of character.

-M

> > > Between this and Iron Fist, Fraction looks to be one of the best new additions to the Marvel family.


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Nose Norton




> > > In a way that no spider-man comic has since civil war started. Its nice to see gwen from way back when she had a personality (before her hair became all strait and her uncle died)
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> > Huh. From the preview, I felt like the writer shoehorned an artificial contemporary Lindsey Lohan esque personality for Gwen that there's no actual basis for. It actually sorta irked me. It would be like if Harry Osborn started talking Shakespearian for no reason (okay, obviously not that bad, but still I wasn't a fan...). You can give her a personality by taking cues from earlier books and expanding it the best you can... not creating something out of nothing. But I'm probably in the minority of not being very excited about this book based on the preview.
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> That's because they never really gave her a personality before. Seriously, she was the most generic character to ever exist and is looked back on by fanboyism as the greatest woman ever just because of nostalgia. If she hadn't died she would be just another ex of Pete's.
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Compared to Pepper Potts, Jane Foster, Karen Page, Sue Richards, Dorrie Evans, and Betty Ross, Gwen actually had a wealth of character. Betty, too. The reason I like Gwen is because Peter's relationship with her actually progressed closer to real life than any other relationship in Silver Age Marvel. In Daredevil, Thor, and Iron Man, grown men actually want to ask their respective "girlfriends" to marry them, even though they've never even had meaningful conversations with them (on panel, anyway), let alone been on dates.
In Spider-Man, you can follow the progression of two people falling in true love, with the insecurites, the highs and lows, the jealousies. Peter doesn't even admit to himself that he loves her until issue 61, I believe. That makes me nostalgic, more than Gwen's death.
I could see if you're not a fan of the Silver Age feeling that Gwen was a very generic character, compared to later characters or character who were allowed to grow, but really she was as much defined by her love interest, who was the main character of the story, as any other female from the time (MJ didn't have a real love interest until after Gwen died). If I had to rank Marvel's Silver Age romances, the top three would probably be Peter/Gwen, Peter/Betty, and Scott Summers/Jean Grey.


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