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Jebsib


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Not trying to troll; Really interested.

I have never read a story (other than Spider-verse) with him in it.
(So I missed out on his introduction and initial hype)/

But what with all the chatter about him being a good candidate for being the new MCU Spidey, and the idea that Secret Wars' main gain is to get him into the Marvel Universe, the character must have a huge appeal.

I'd like to know why... Is it his personality? Back story? Fresh perspective?

Thanks.




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RadRacer




His character is really well written. Plus the Ultimate Spider-man universe is so great, everything has been created by one author, so it all makes sense. There's the legacy there of the old Peter Parkers life, as well as Miles' own supporting characters.

I personally don't want to see him move to the 616 universe, I think part of what makes the character so great is the Ultimate universe that he is in.


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Blargh





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    Not trying to troll; Really interested.



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    I have never read a story (other than Spider-verse) with him in it.
    (So I missed out on his introduction and initial hype)/



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    But what with all the chatter about him being a good candidate for being the new MCU Spidey, and the idea that Secret Wars' main gain is to get him into the Marvel Universe, the character must have a huge appeal.



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    I'd like to know why... Is it his personality? Back story? Fresh perspective?



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    Thanks.


All of the above? It is a fresh take on Spidey but at his core is still a genuinely good kid whose heart is in the right place. I think he's actually a bit BETTER of a person than Peter (616) was starting out. Peter in early Lee/Ditko was someone who really could've gone on to either become Captain America or Magneto. He eventually did the right thing, but usually either accidentally or for the wrong reason.

In contrast, Miles is really trying to do the right thing but gets dealt a bad hand, particularly in regards to his uncle.

Bendis' USM is by far one of the best runs of comics out there and there really is no let down in quality except the past couple of issues have been so-so. But that's like 5 issues out of a 200+ run at this point.




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Blargh




Says the guy who has never read a single comic with Miles in it.


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Grey Gargoyle


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Blargh




Eh, then Bendis wouldn't have been able to undo his death as well.

Also they're currently publishing an entire event with alt Spider-Men many of which share the Parker name or Peter Parker name.


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japatar




I wonder what the response would be if they included Luke Cage in Daredevil and he was played by a white actor?


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Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man




But this isn't the same. Miles is a new character. It's not like they just randomly made Peter Parker black, I agree that would've been dumb.

This isn't like making Luke Cage white, it's like introducing a new Power Man who's not Luke Cage who happens to be white. Which I actually think they did a while ago, and no one complained.

I'm not a fan of Miles either, don't particularly care for the character, but your comparison was really off.


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Thanks for the reply! You helped me win a bet with my wife....I'm 20.00 richer right now!!! We were debating the issue of negative replies on blogs and you validated my point. Appreciate it...and btw...who is Miles Morales anyway?


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Probably most of the people being open minded, going "huh" and going about their day and the racists complaining super loudly because "dur Peter Parker is white". Just like how we saw when Miles was introduced and even among this board were claims of a conspiracy and it being a "PC mandate"

Let's be clear: Peter Parker is a character who happens to be white. Peter Parker, however, is not defined in part by his whiteness or even any type of ethnic heritage. So in theory, there's no reason that a black actor or a hispanic or a British actor (which actually did happen, Garfield just did an American accent) or whatever.

This is in contrast to Luke Cage, where being black is indeed a part of his character. Both him as a character/person and how the fictional character was created in the era of blaxploitation. Cage's origin story of a harmful experiment could be similar to the Tuskegee experiments, something that involved the US government conducting inhumane tests on African Americans.

There are characters where race, culture, or ethnic traits are notable enough that they are non-negotiable. Luke Cage and Black Panther are one of them. Magneto being Jewish and a victim of the Holocaust is another. Arguably Punisher and Vietnam, and speaking of Daredevil, Matt Murdock and being Catholic. But I thought Bullseye and Kingpin, from that otherwise horrible Daredevil film, were absolutely great and I was not bothered in the least that Bullseye had an Irish accent or Kingpin was black.

So to people who say "Peter Parker is white", I say "Explain". Explain to me why Peter Parker is, at his core, a white person, abouve anything else.

THAT all being said, I think the two big things working against an African American, Hispanic, or a woman being cast in a Spider-Man film is that there are absolutely great Spider-related characters for them to use without using the Peter Parker name in Miles Morales and several Spider-Women and Spider-Girls respectively.


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