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Subject: How Marvel Comics' Editors Ruined Hobgoblin (YouTube video with OLD SPOILERS)|
Posted Fri Jan 14, 2022 at 07:18:43 pm EST (Viewed 148 times)
A lot of this I was unaware of.
Question I looked up on google: Will Ash Vs. Evil Dead be continued as a cartoon?
Online news article sample (from one of many):
After playing Evil Dead franchise hero Ash Williams on screen for around forty years, spanning three feature films and three seasons of the TV series Ash vs. Evil Dead, Bruce Campbell formally retired from the role, saying he’s not physically able to handle the action sequences any longer. But he is playing Ash again by delivering a vocal performance for the Evil Dead video game that’s going to be released next year – and while talking to OK Magazine he confirmed that he would also be willing to provide Ash’s voice if there were ever to be an animated Evil Dead series.
OK Magazine caught up with Campbell during the LA Comic Con earlier this month, and here’s what they had to say about the possibility of some animated Evil Dead:
"When asked if he would be interested in making an Evil Dead animated television series to alleviate the stress of fight scenes and stunts, the answer is a resounding yes. “I can do the voice,” he teases. Time for fans to cross their fingers and hope!"
So clearly there aren’t any plans for an Evil Dead animated series at this time, but if Campbell is interested in the idea he could make it happen; he holds the rights to the franchise, along with Sam Raimi and Rob Tapert.
This isn’t the first time we’ve seen talk about animated additions to the Evil Dead franchise. About fifteen years ago, I saw a lot of fans hoping the story to the Freddy vs. Jason vs. Ash movie that the Evil Dead crew put the kibosh on would receive an animated adaptation. (The story did end up being told in the pages of a comic book.) There is such a hunger to get as much Ash as we can get while Bruce Campbell is still in this world, I can definitely see fans supporting the idea of an animated series. If we can’t get live action Ash, many of us would gladly take video game Ash and animated Ash in his place.
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Subject: Re: How Marvel Comics' Editors Ruined Hobgoblin (YouTube video with OLD SPOILERS) [Re: Rodimus]|
Posted Sat Jan 15, 2022 at 09:56:32 am EST (Viewed 126 times)
My personal opinion is that the Hobgoblin was doomed from the start.
While it's best that Kingsley is the Hobgoblin the fact is that the way Stern wrote and developed him, he didn't make a great deal of sense. How does a hack fashion designer who plagiarized his stuff somehow manage to reverse engineer Norman Osborn's goblin formula and supposedly improve on it? It still doesn't make sense, no more than Miles Warren somehow inventing human cloning on ESU salary makes sense. These are poor decision choices, where the characters do not convince you that they are able to do what they end up doing.
The other problem with the "Hobgoblin mystery" is that there's no real way Peter could conceivably investigate or solve it. Roderick Kingsley is not a person known to him and Spider-Man comics and titles by nature aren't detective fiction, they are action/suspense/comedy. In fact Marvel Comics as a whole is antithetical to detective stories and mysteries. They really don't have many notable ones compared to DC (Watchmen, Hush, Long Halloween among others).
However, maybe if Stern had stayed on the title, things could have improved and been fixed. And Stern's slow buildup of the Hobgoblin is still fun to read. Instead he decided to leave, and Tom Defalco and others were stuck with a mystery story where the intended culprit is some random figure whose notable stories was in Spectacular Spider-Man, in a title and publication where mystery stories are hard to do as it is.
So while Marvel Comics' Editors Ruined Hobgoblin the fact is the reason they did so is because Stern didn't leave them a lot to work with.
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Subject: Re: How Marvel Comics' Editors Ruined Hobgoblin (YouTube video with OLD SPOILERS) [Re: Revolutionary_Jack]|
Posted Tue Feb 08, 2022 at 05:21:35 pm EST (Viewed 75 times)
Agreed, I was luke warm on the Kingsley reveal. It was better than Ned Leeds (which also didn't make any sense), but still pretty uninteresting.
In my perfect world, Kingsley would have been revealed as The Rose (which made perfect sense), and Hobgoblin would have been revealed as Richard Fisk. Having the Hobgoblin tied to the Osborn legacy as well as the Fisk family/sins of the father dynamic would have been a background that could launch a thousand stories. It was a way to make Hobgoblin a bigger deal, so his allure could carry on after his identity was settled.
"It is not our abilities that show what we truly are. It is our choices." – Albus Dumbledore
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