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I don't know if this requires spoilers, but I'll throw some space in just in case it does.


































DC is is completely rebooting. Books starting over as first issues.

http://www.supermanhomepage.com/news.php?readmore=9852

Whatever. DC can yanky my wanky.

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Hmmmm. I would hate it if something like this happened to the Marvel Universe, but DC has given us a reboot before and I honestly think I'd be more likely to pick up a reboot if it was quality work.

One thing I noticed is that in the article you provided a link for, there was a picture of the JLA. Were those supposed to be redesigned costumes? Nothing looked new to me. Superman wasn't wearing the red undies is all I saw. I think the timing of this is interesting since rumor has it DC will lose the rights to the Superman costume in the next year or two. Perhaps they are preparing us for a permanent change of costume?


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rc




The shot I saw showed a high slit collar a la Monel and Jim Lee's redesign of Superman for Wizard from several years back, and an S akin to that of the Electric Superman.

As for what DC may be preparing us for: Perhaps not just the loss of the costume, but (I hope, I hope, I hope) the loss of the man in it.

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I know it's silly since it's really just a number but they gotta keep Action Comics' numbers. I mean they're so close to reaching 1000 and that'd just be awesome to have an issue #1000 with Superman in it.






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I'm surprised this board is so calm. I've seen many people blowing gaskets elsewhere. Still, I say here what I did there:

My gut tells me it is not as permanent or as drastic as the Collective Comic Internet ID seems to believe. That's not how DC or Marvel works anymore. This is likely a storyline that will run its course and nothing more.

And I stand by my comment that they will not permanently renumber ACTION COMICS or DETECTIVE COMICS (probably not SUPERMAN or BATMAN, either). They are too historical.




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Mike, if the heirs get the rights back, and I hope they do, this likely won't "run its course."

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118037679?categoryid=13&cs=1&cmpid=RSS|News|FilmNews

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I agree with you. It should be a ten to twelve month stunt. Still that first two months of orders could be huge for the big titles.

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    I'm surprised this board is so calm. I've seen many people blowing gaskets elsewhere. Still, I say here what I did there:



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    My gut tells me it is not as permanent or as drastic as the Collective Comic Internet ID seems to believe. That's not how DC or Marvel works anymore. This is likely a storyline that will run its course and nothing more.


Yeah I tend to agree. I fully support it and there'll be great stuff coming from it but the more I read of and think on it the more like a sales gimmick it looks, a nice gimmick to be sure but to change both continuity and costumes as radically as this is an unusual move, DC have had such almightly problems ironing out its basic continuity since 1986 and have gone to such lengths to make it cohesive and integrated again in recent years I don't think this 'throw-it-all-out' relaunch is credible in that light.




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I'll never understand WHY DC has to ALWAYS change a hero's origins. There was nothing wrong with the revamp of characters that happened in 1986. Some characters got major changes, others got minor changes. The one character that I can name that was most effected by it all is Superman.

Then they came up with Birthright. Then they came up with Secret Origins. All in the same DECADE!

And now ANOTHER large scale revamp?! This is not needed and I'm getting really tired of things always changing in the DCU. It creates nothing but confusion, especially for new readers.

DC. GIVE IT A REST ALREADY!!! Stop changing something that ain't broke!

I really hope the other posters who have said this is not a permanent change are right. I'm really, really tired of the DCU always changing. DC, learn from Marvel, stick to ONE universe and STOP changing things all the time!

There, I've said my piece.


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I've vented on it on some of my friends FB statuses and on Deviantart, but personally, I'm just pissed at the notion they're wiping out Action/Detective Comics numbering to new #1's.

I'm actually all for a line-wide reboot of the universe; but considering all the people attached to write/draw these books and the fact they've all but stated that a decent amount of continuity will be staying (I.E. all of Johns recent work), I have no desire to read these books and frankly don't care.

But as much as I have no desire to read their books, I don't want to see Action Comics numbering undone just for a stunt (because I'm sorry, if you re-start the book at #1 and then change it back later, it's not continuing the original print run).

But that's just me.




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    Quote:
    I'm surprised this board is so calm. I've seen many people blowing gaskets elsewhere. Still, I say here what I did there:



    Quote:
    My gut tells me it is not as permanent or as drastic as the Collective Comic Internet ID seems to believe. That's not how DC or Marvel works anymore. This is likely a storyline that will run its course and nothing more.


I think its going to be a "wait and see" approach. If the sales improve and continue to improve I could see them actually keeping the new history going.

I would actually welcome the new history. I actually wouldn't mind some drastic changes happening either
Wild ideas -

Superman has actually been around since 1938 but he only looks about 35 because he ages slower then normal humans. Clark Kent is actually his 3rd or 4th secret identity he's established. Every 20 to 30 years or so he moves to a new city and sets up a new id for himself.

Bruce Wayne started as Batman in the 80s. He's now in his 50s and serves as a mentor to the current Batman, Dick Grayson.

A few other random thoughts I wonder about though

Digital comics are coming out the same time as print. While I still think people prefer print I think this will hurt some of the comic shops. Especially if they make them easily accessible on notebooks, ipads, tablets, nooks, etc.

I'm curious how they are going to debut the heroes. The first issue is Justice League so it seems like when we're introduced to the new DCU the heroes are already established in the communities they live in probably.

I wonder if his parents will be alive or not. I hope they are

I'm betting Clark won't have his wedding ring anymore. I'm disappointed that he won't.

I wonder if he'll of ever been Superboy. I'm indifferent about it but if I had a choice I'd prefer it if he was only Superboy in the 30th century and not active in Smallville.


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    And I stand by my comment that they will not permanently renumber ACTION COMICS or DETECTIVE COMICS (probably not SUPERMAN or BATMAN, either). They are too historical.


I hope so.




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    I don't know if this requires spoilers, but I'll throw some space in just in case it does.



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    DC is is completely rebooting. Books starting over as first issues.



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    http://www.supermanhomepage.com/news.php?readmore=9852



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    Whatever. DC can yanky my wanky.



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    _rc


A complete universal reboot can be a good news in the long run, but the reset on the titles number is not something that make me happy. They should have wait for Action #1000 at least.





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Navin




A chance to reboot Superman without the red trunks, without a selfish Lois. Hmm, sounds interesting. Does this effectively erase Kingdom Come and Earth One?

So is DC rebooting because they have run out of new ideas? They don't have to reboot any of the titles. They could've just start a new Earth One series carrying all the major titles. Quick, someone email them my suggestion!


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My intuition says it's mandated by new EiC Bob Harrass and upper management, the fact this is also hand in glove with DCs move to digital sales tells you a lot as well. I just can't see the likes of Geoff Johns suggesting this... definitly not as a permanent reboot.
Being Cynical it's another bid to grab the hype and marketshare for five minutes, but if they were indeed serious I would think such a reboot would come from a HUGE event like crisis, not out of the blue and done in a hurry from a fairly minor event like Flashpoint....



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