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It stands to reason that in a "reborn" Asgard could be a "reborn" Odin as well...


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hpitty




> It stands to reason that in a "reborn" Asgard could be a "reborn" Odin as well...


could, yes. should, no. odin was biggest pain in a**. sometime think he done more harm to thor than loki. alays wit da "teach ya a lesson" he was. n thor will gain a new dimension wit out him. force warrior to find wisdom within hiself stead o relyin on odin. thinks will make for an inerestin run. wants him to continue as was in ragnrk. though, wouldn't mind a partin visit from him if only to kinda give thor closure. sorta 'good job and good bye.' aww .


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Vartha




> It stands to reason that in a "reborn" Asgard could be a "reborn" Odin as well...
Well I've come up with an thought about a month ago and talked about it on the Marvel Boards about that.

In the Ragnarok arc Thor had gained control of the Odin Force by topping Odin's own Sacrifices and the fact that only one can have complete control of the Odin Force as far as I know. Now IF Odin returns, I see him returning with powers he had BEFORE he had gone through the Trials for the Odin Force, which we have barely seen any of those powers.



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Garth




> It stands to reason that in a "reborn" Asgard could be a "reborn" Odin as well...

I wouldn't mind seeing Odin back in some form but it needn't be as Lord of Asgard.

There was a "What if ?" once where Thor took over Asgard and it left Odin free of the worries of Asgard and able to pursue other agendas. I thought it was rather good. He got rid of both Mephisto and Loki consigning them to limbo as I recall. Thor didn't have the OdinPower but drew enough power from the land of Asgard to dispose of the Destroyer construct.

I guess only one of them can have the OdinPower - can't they ? - unless it's shared in some way (not a good idea at all).

I'd be happy to see Odin making an occasional appearance - maybe inhabiting some other plane of existence and "slumming it" now and again. But when he does make an apperance - watch out for big daddy !

Why the partiality for Odin ? - well I'm basically an old fart myself !

Cheers

Garth


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thorsverd




> It stands to reason that in a "reborn" Asgard could be a "reborn" Odin as well...

In Book 1 (One) Blake says something like "...we are both children of Mjolnir." I bet Odin is in the hammer. Thor: Son of Odin (Hammer) and Blake creation by Odin (hammer). hmmm.....


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ubermensch




> It stands to reason that in a "reborn" Asgard could be a "reborn" Odin as well...

As much as I loved the Old Man. I would not want to see him come back as he was. That would mean Thor would have to 'step down'. Erasing all the evolution that has taken place.

Now, if Odin were to be brought back, I would like to see him come back as a more 'evolved' entity as well. Kinda like how the Ancient One(Dr. Strange) merged with Eternity after his death.

Bring back Odin as a Abstract Being. Don't bring him back as the same old Odin.




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hpitty




> > It stands to reason that in a "reborn" Asgard could be a "reborn" Odin as well...
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> In Book 1 (One) Blake says something like "...we are both children of Mjolnir." I bet Odin is in the hammer. Thor: Son of Odin (Hammer) and Blake creation by Odin (hammer). hmmm.....


dunno. that sound too philosophical fo me. or reminds me o some lsd trippin from the 60's man. mebbe jms was just bein poetic n all. wouldn't takes it literal like. especial since hammer was made long after odin n thor. if anythin, odin parent and hammer child, so ta speak. anyways, hope not too much deep dialogue likes that. i not sophisticated nough for it. over my head man.


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Bifrost




> It stands to reason that in a "reborn" Asgard could be a "reborn" Odin as well...


...is should Odin be brought back?


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seeker





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> I guess only one of them can have the OdinPower - can't they ? - unless it's shared in some way (not a good idea at all).
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I remember after Odin split Jake Olson and Thor Olson used the Enchantress' mirror to become Thor again siphoning the Odinforce to do it. Of course it leaves them both weaker because it is essentially divided in half.

> I'd be happy to see Odin making an occasional appearance - maybe inhabiting some other plane of existence and "slumming it" now and again. But when he does make an apperance - watch out for big daddy !
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I do not want Odin to return because basically he has in a sense served his purpose. Thor has grown up and if Odin returns to rule Asgard you risk once again falling into old stories. If he does return I would prefer someone like Tiwz. Unnkown to most of Asgard, but either does nothing or works behind the scenes. Maybe someone you go to advice on occassion. Something people do tend to forget is Odin was sometimes as much a menace to Thor and had a bad as temper if not worse than Thor's than any villain he faced. Which reminds me, where do gods go when they retire but the pantheon remains?



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RE-man




> > It stands to reason that in a "reborn" Asgard could be a "reborn" Odin as well...
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> ...is should Odin be brought back?

Odin should not be brought back. this is a new beginning in thor's life. this not the asgard of old. or the thor of old. thor has been reborn after the final ragnarok. thor has growned wise and educated from his previous ordeal. let's not rehash the old. odin is dead. long live the king!



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Magni 11550




> It stands to reason that in a "reborn" Asgard could be a "reborn" Odin as well...

Asgard and everyone in it returns with the exception of Odin? If Sif, Balder and The Warriors Three can be killed in combat and still return why would Odin remain "dead"? I guess I'm in the minority here but I hope Odin does return as the king of Asgard. I dread the idea of King Thor. I want to see Thor bouncing around Earth, Asgard and the cosmos kicking butt not, sitting on the throne settling disputes between farmers and working on treaties with other leaders. I don't think Thor has to be King to show growth and maturity. In the real world most of us mature long before our fathers pass and the same can be true of Thor.
IMHO strict/rigid fathers don't slow the journey to adulthood. They quicken the pace.



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Garth




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> I do not want Odin to return because basically he has in a sense served his purpose. Thor has grown up and if Odin returns to rule Asgard you risk once again falling into old stories. If he does return I would prefer someone like Tiwz. Unnkown to most of Asgard, but either does nothing or works behind the scenes. Maybe someone you go to advice on occassion. Something people do tend to forget is Odin was sometimes as much a menace to Thor and had a bad as temper if not worse than Thor's than any villain he faced. Which reminds me, where do gods go when they retire but the pantheon remains?
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Well in Odin's case I used to have a theory that he had become one of "those who live above ib shadow" - at least until Mike Oeming kind of put paid to that.

Cheers

Garth


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thorsverd




> > > It stands to reason that in a "reborn" Asgard could be a "reborn" Odin as well...
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> > In Book 1 (One) Blake says something like "...we are both children of Mjolnir." I bet Odin is in the hammer. Thor: Son of Odin (Hammer) and Blake creation by Odin (hammer). hmmm.....
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> dunno. that sound too philosophical fo me. or reminds me o some lsd trippin from the 60's man. mebbe jms was just bein poetic n all. wouldn't takes it literal like. especial since hammer was made long after odin n thor. if anythin, odin parent and hammer child, so ta speak. anyways, hope not too much deep dialogue likes that. i not sophisticated nough for it. over my head man.

hahaha.. no man. I did not mean it literal as in the hammer is the father of the two. I meant that Odin's "spirit" could be in the hammer. Put there for "safe keeping" so-to-speak. His and Blake's as well. In that way... coming from the hammer - "Reborn". See? Though, it's been done before, so I guess there is presedence at least.

See ya.


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Slickster




Of course he will be brought back sooner or later. He's come back from the dead mythologically too BTW. The question, then, is how to do it RIGHT.

My take is that he should be very different from how he has been shown before. Odin mythologically wasn't always "king" of Asgard. At times he was considered to have been less central, while Thor was "king." Thor (Donnar) was referred to as his father, even; of course this could be interpreted to mean that once upon a time Odin's father, Bor Skullcrusher, had the trappings that made him seem an earlier version of Thor.

Anyway, I'd want to see Odin as an independent operative sort of along the lines of how that other one-eyed Marvelite has been operating...

> > > It stands to reason that in a "reborn" Asgard could be a "reborn" Odin as well...
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> Odin should not be brought back. this is a new beginning in thor's life. this not the asgard of old. or the thor of old. thor has been reborn after the final ragnarok. thor has growned wise and educated from his previous ordeal. let's not rehash the old. odin is dead. long live the king!
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