The Thor Message Board >> View Thread

Author
Carlos


Location: Premia de Mar, Barcelona, Spain
Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008


These words I write is a definitive good-bye and I´ll begin a new life, I hope someone read all the words to understand it, I´ll never write on a comic book forums, also I will not ask on Tom Brevoort or Kieron Gillen formspring again about this theme.

I´m very tired, all this things, I´m feeling sometimes so stupid and it is clear that although there are people who understand it, others have not understood anything of what I´m saying in all these years about a character like Amora the Enchantress.

Character completely wasted for years in a very bad stories and that a great character like her, don´t deserve it, I personally, don´t understand how it is possible that Marvel, with all the writers and artists that they have, they have never been worried at least with a great character like her with all the potential that she has and so good as her, they continue wasting her in the same way without giving her any background story or a good story behind her origin (I repeat what I always said, origin never explained), if this had been done and done right, it could be considered one of the best stories of Thor, Asgard and Marvel.

I gave dozens and dozens of examples in all my threads that I wished to have discussed with anyone, but clearly nobody seemed to care and those examples have always been there, completely ignored and I don´t know if anyone could ever read them and I didn´t have any opportunity to answer, since the vision of people seems too conservative to open their eyes to other things and they have always seen The Enchantress in the same way, as if she were an one-dimensional character which offered nothing more than sexy and sensual part of the story without delving into her story, unfortunately in recent years, Amora seems to have no love or affection of the Marvel writers who always ignored her in all their stories as if she didn´t exist, despite her appearance in the Avengers animated series.

Amora the Enchantress is a more complex character than she seems at first sight, any good writer could do wonders of a good stories with her, add new things or use things already seen and give her a new approach, they could have taken the theme of her younger sister, Lorelei (character so forgotten by Marvel writers), Skurge the Executioner (there also may have developed this story better), Thor and his behavior towards her, which is not the same that he has with his stepbrother, Loki. Sif and Amora rivalry, her ambiguity between good and evil, despite Amora is a villainess, she is very able of doing good things, she isn´t a sorceress as evil as can be Karnilla, quite the contrary, although no one would say it seeing her first appearances and her fights against the Avengers) or recently, the forgotten second Enchantress, Sylvie Lushton, if all this, a good writer is able to unite and make a good story by joining all the pieces, interesting, shocking, well-written … it would be a very good story and at last, they will do justice to character like her.

Surely, there are people who will continue without understand the why, that they must think, I´m paranoid, that I´m exaggerating too, that when I talk about it, I speak with passion and other things.

The fact is that I really like this character and one day, I want to read something good about her and that Marvel don´t ignore her in the way they do it, this is why I insist too much, because I hope to read good stories and not bad stories and that one day, some good writer think in a good story to tell about her, or at least that begin to start a balance in her appearances.

After all this tirade, I say good-bye forever to comic book forums, I have no intention to turn back on my decision, I hope people read it and be able to understand why I´m saying these things, I never said a single bad Word, I´m just try to argue what I say, it is possible that in some things, I´m wrong, and I acknowledge that I have exaggerated in certain things, is also the fact that I don´t know how to make people understand me due to not being an Anglophone, but I´ve always done everything possible to improve my English, in some cases with good results and others cases, a disaster.

Well, good luck and good-bye, I will begin a new life thinking in other things more important. \:\-\)


Posted with Mozilla Firefox 8.0.1 on Windows 7
bd2999

Moderator

Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008


Ok?


    Quote:
    These words I write is a definitive good-bye and I´ll begin a new life, I hope someone read all the words to understand it, I´ll never write on a comic book forums, also I will not ask on Tom Brevoort or Kieron Gillen formspring again about this theme.



    Quote:
    I´m very tired, all this things, I´m feeling sometimes so stupid and it is clear that although there are people who understand it, others have not understood anything of what I´m saying in all these years about a character like Amora the Enchantress.



    Quote:
    Character completely wasted for years in a very bad stories and that a great character like her, don´t deserve it, I personally, don´t understand how it is possible that Marvel, with all the writers and artists that they have, they have never been worried at least with a great character like her with all the potential that she has and so good as her, they continue wasting her in the same way without giving her any background story or a good story behind her origin (I repeat what I always said, origin never explained), if this had been done and done right, it could be considered one of the best stories of Thor, Asgard and Marvel.



    Quote:
    I gave dozens and dozens of examples in all my threads that I wished to have discussed with anyone, but clearly nobody seemed to care and those examples have always been there, completely ignored and I don´t know if anyone could ever read them and I didn´t have any opportunity to answer, since the vision of people seems too conservative to open their eyes to other things and they have always seen The Enchantress in the same way, as if she were an one-dimensional character which offered nothing more than sexy and sensual part of the story without delving into her story, unfortunately in recent years, Amora seems to have no love or affection of the Marvel writers who always ignored her in all their stories as if she didn´t exist, despite her appearance in the Avengers animated series.



    Quote:
    Amora the Enchantress is a more complex character than she seems at first sight, any good writer could do wonders of a good stories with her, add new things or use things already seen and give her a new approach, they could have taken the theme of her younger sister, Lorelei (character so forgotten by Marvel writers), Skurge the Executioner (there also may have developed this story better), Thor and his behavior towards her, which is not the same that he has with his stepbrother, Loki. Sif and Amora rivalry, her ambiguity between good and evil, despite Amora is a villainess, she is very able of doing good things, she isn´t a sorceress as evil as can be Karnilla, quite the contrary, although no one would say it seeing her first appearances and her fights against the Avengers) or recently, the forgotten second Enchantress, Sylvie Lushton, if all this, a good writer is able to unite and make a good story by joining all the pieces, interesting, shocking, well-written … it would be a very good story and at last, they will do justice to character like her.



    Quote:
    Surely, there are people who will continue without understand the why, that they must think, I´m paranoid, that I´m exaggerating too, that when I talk about it, I speak with passion and other things.



    Quote:
    The fact is that I really like this character and one day, I want to read something good about her and that Marvel don´t ignore her in the way they do it, this is why I insist too much, because I hope to read good stories and not bad stories and that one day, some good writer think in a good story to tell about her, or at least that begin to start a balance in her appearances.



    Quote:
    After all this tirade, I say good-bye forever to comic book forums, I have no intention to turn back on my decision, I hope people read it and be able to understand why I´m saying these things, I never said a single bad Word, I´m just try to argue what I say, it is possible that in some things, I´m wrong, and I acknowledge that I have exaggerated in certain things, is also the fact that I don´t know how to make people understand me due to not being an Anglophone, but I´ve always done everything possible to improve my English, in some cases with good results and others cases, a disaster.



    Quote:
    Well, good luck and good-bye, I will begin a new life thinking in other things more important. \:\-\)


She is a good character. Although not sure why lack of responses would stop you from posting. Do what you want, but if you like a character have at it. People complain when their favorite character does not show up much, if they are a b lister, so I see no reason to not talk about her. She is Marvel's so at the same time I think I would rather not have a character show up at all than show up in a bad story or bad characterization. Just my two cents.




Look Raist bunnies...
Posted with Microsoft Internet Explorer 5.0 on Windows 7
Battle Wizard




Hang in there.

I lament regularly how infrequently I get to see She-Hulk anymore.

My lack of Power Girl showings is practically unbearable.

I'm still asking myself years later what ever happened to Firestar?

Why, oh WHY did they stop letting Moondragon have appearances?

Purgatori & Lady Death NEED to make a comeback or I swear I'll scream.

Bomb Queen simply shoulda never EVER been allowed to be cancelled.

Selene, the Black Queen is awesomeness personified and simply sitting on a shelf being useless, utterly unbelievable !!!

I could keep going on, but the point is, I've not given up hope on all my favorite HOTTIES...

Neither should you !!!


Posted with Microsoft Internet Explorer 5.0 on Windows Vista
Thor


Location: Minnesota
Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008
Posts: 308


Carlos,

Not much makes me post on this board anymore. I read every day, but not much moves me. Lots of whining and whining...very little actual discussion...

My 2 cents. Hang in there. Amora is a wonderful character. I know you have a borderline obsession with her, but hey, we all have an obsession of these characters. Keep the passion. Keep the devotion.

unfortunately, I will miss you.




~ Sanity is simply a state of mind that society has deemed acceptable...I don't recognize your society!

Thor
God of Storm
Posted with Mozilla Firefox 8.0.1 on MacOS X
Meador




Like others have written, hang in there.


Posted with Microsoft Internet Explorer 8 4.0; on Windows Vista
Garth




You've been a poster on this board for a long time now Carlos.

I can't help but noticing too how much your English has improved over the years.

The number of viewings (already) of your post - should give you some indication of your popularity on this Board.

If you should leave the board I think I speak for most posters hereabouts when I say you would be welcome to return anytime.

As to Amora, I can, to some extent, understand your frustrations. She is a very interesting character and it's unfortunate that Marvel have not chosen to use her much in more recent times.

All the best to you for the future.

Cheers

Garth


Posted with Microsoft Internet Explorer 7 on Windows XP
Punchdrunk






Posted with Microsoft Internet Explorer 8 4.0; on Windows Vista

Alvaro's Comicboards powered by On Topic™ © 2003-2022 Powermad Software