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Kurt Busiek

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Arthur Hansen

Subj: Re: A sad day in Avengers history... [SPOILERS]
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 at 12:44:42 pm EDT
Reply Subj: A sad day in Avengers history... [SPOILERS]
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 at 12:29:55 pm EDT

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I could have easily titled this "Heroes no more".

While many people focused on Superman's beating on Thor, it only got me an "eh, whatever" reaction. I think it could have been done a little better, shown Thor to be closer to Superman as a peer of strength and heroism. But that's really just a nit-pick.

No, my issue is with the Avenger's reaction to it. Since when did the Avengers become Thor fanboys? That reaction was just so abhorrently *non*-heroic it was just sickening. They've got the fate of the world on the line and they just dropped it to gang-beat-down Superman?

Especially for She-Hulk and Hercules. Both of these heroes were nearly beat to death in the same manner of the beat-down by the Wrecking Crew (with Goliath and Titana helping in the respective beat-downs.)

I would think these two would have been pulling off the other three, had they been vile enough to just beat on Superman that way. And that's at a minimum.

That scene added a garish tarnish to my favorite hero, the reason I collect comics and one of the biggest reason I'm an artist. Now I have to live with the thought that many people's impression of Iron Man is going to be of a two-bit thug that beats on a weakened foe, just because his sides "heavy-hitter" lost a fight.

Tony's human, but he is not generally *that* petty.

There was no heroism there, just... I don't have the words to say what I feel.

And this is according to a writer that claims to really care for the Avengers and Iron Man in particular.

It is a sad day, indeed, to be an Avengers fan this day.

Arthur Hansen

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> No, my issue is with the Avenger's reaction to it. Since when did the Avengers become Thor fanboys? That reaction was just so abhorrently *non*-heroic it was just sickening. They've got the fate of the world on the line and they just dropped it to gang-beat-down Superman?

The Avengers have piled on powerful villains plenty of times in the past.

I think you may be looking at it as different because it's Superman rather than Count Nefaria or someone you feel deserves it, but it's in character for either the Avengers or the JLA to pile on a villain who just knocked out one of their strongest. They're a team -- multiple heroes against a powerful solo foe is not an unusual thing.

Sorry you didn't care for it.

kdb


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