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Subj: Re: Thank you Captain America [SPOILERS]
Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 at 01:33:19 pm EST
Reply Subj: Re: Thank you Captain America [SPOILERS]
Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 at 06:27:56 pm EST
> > > For being a true patriot...
> > Yeah he is above the law he tries to enforce on others...good job Cap!
> The Basic misconception that most readers/posters are stating is that super heroes such as Captain America enforce the laws. Where is that written. That is absolutely incorrect. Superheroes fight super criminals or super powered threats. That is all. They are not law enforcement officers unless they are under the employ of the respective government. Marvel super heroes were not under the voluntary employ of the government. They fought crime that typically (according to Stan Lee) regular police forces couldn't match.
> > > ...having a never say die attitude..in face of Kovac, Thanos, Beyonder, and now Iron Man...
And thats the problem...they place themselves above the law...you get people like Magneto and such...thats being a zealot.
> > One could say the same about Tony...Tony idolizes Cap yet he knows what he is doing is right(Tony has freely given hios life up to save Caps before thinking him the better man)...THAT is courage...Cap just thinks Stark is a punk
> Tony Stary doesn't know what he is doing is right, he believes it is, but knowing is another thing altogether. He is a zealot that is following the majority, not considering whom it hurts. And he is probably one of the easiest characters to "take out". He has no super powers, no super senses and he is the worst traitor of all, in my opinion.
If anything this makes him a LOT smarter/less crazy then Cap. He is doing what he believes to be right...but he has shown times when he isnt sure and has doubts so he questions his motives and actions...Cap is a fanatic who never asks himself the tough question..."is what I am doing right?" thats the mind of a despot an insane person. That is a zealot...you need to look up the definition of the word. He is following what the DEMOCRATICALLY elected govt. enacted as law with support of the people...Cap is a traitor since he puts himself above not just the law but the people...Mr. Dictator hello.
> > > ...for hitting the Punisher real good for killing those two jabronies...
> > After letting him on the team right after he killed 2 other criminals...yep Cap's looking bright on this one...let Castle do all that dirty work for him so he keeps looking good.
> Where or why would you have a problem with him killing the two characters that were trying to hurt or kill Spiderman? I'm not following you on this one. Of course those two should have been taken out. They were trying to seriously hurt or kill one of the best heroes around. What would you have done. Stopped known killers/sadist and ask them to stop and walk away. You see a friend being hurt you act first and get them out of there.
They HURT spiderman...you dont kill people for hurting someone else...if you truly believe it is ok to kill someone for punching you...well we have nothing more to talk about. They "wanted" to kill Spiderman...but they couldnt...and they had STOPPED beating on him and were about to take him in when Punisher cowardly blew them away from behind.
> Quite honestly, I am almost to the point where that should have happened years ago. You fight super powered people trying to kill others and simply capture them and what happens? they either escape capture as usual so that other stories can be written, or they break out of jail and kill some one else.
It's called due process and such. Then again why not let Cap decide which laws everyone should follow and which ones not.
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