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Roga_The_First

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dave

Subj: Re: I just don't see Dr. strange following orders from the new leader [SPOILERS]
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 at 11:50:23 am EST
Reply Subj: Re: I just don't see Dr. strange following orders from the new leader [SPOILERS]
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 at 01:25:58 am EST

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> I think it´s a new era for the Avengers, with only street level characters in their ranks, except for Dr. Strange who is just too much power for a team like that; I´m willing to give this series a shot, I just don´t see Stephen Strange following orders from Cage, that would be weird (IMO).
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What are you calling street level? I think of Daredevil and Moon Knight. I certainly wouldn't call Spiderman, who presses about 20 tons and is faster than about anybody, a street leveller. Nor would I say Cage, who is several times stronger than Spidey, that either. Just because they fight crime AND super crime does not mean they can't hang with the big boys. Spiderman was squaring off against Dr. Doom before most of these heroes ever suited up.


Echo and Ronin (whether DD or Cap) I would argue are both streets, but Cap and Hawkeye have always been members and it hasn't been a problem.

> Hopefully Strange would just get bored and will try to reform the original Defenders \:\-D (you can only hope...!)
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I would love seeing a Defenders team that is steeped in mysticism. Mystical characters working together, such as Ghost Rider, Moon Knight, and Blade. That'd be awesome. Doc could be the leader. Him or Daredevil.

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> > iron fist and luke cage are in the team and luke is the leader of the new avengers.
> > http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=97902

> > I think it´s a new era for the Avengers, with only street level characters in their ranks, except for Dr. Strange who is just too much power for a team like that; I´m willing to give this series a shot, I just don´t see Stephen Strange following orders from Cage, that would be weird (IMO).
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> What are you calling street level? I think of Daredevil and Moon Knight. I certainly wouldn't call Spiderman, who presses about 20 tons and is faster than about anybody, a street leveller. Nor would I say Cage, who is several times stronger than Spidey, that either. Just because they fight crime AND super crime does not mean they can't hang with the big boys. Spiderman was squaring off against Dr. Doom before most of these heroes ever suited up.
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well, so far Spiderman hasn't being announced (yes, I know he WILL be anounced and I know he will be part of the team), but still he and Strange are so far the exception, this new incarnation of the New Avengers is a street level power team.

And by the way, Luke Cage is not "several" times stronger than Spiderman (Luke is in the 25 tons range).

http://www.marvel.com/universe/Cage%2C_Luke

Cage is not even in the league of the "Strong Guys" class (between 80 and 100 tons), characters like Wonderman, Shehulk, the Thing, Atlas, Colossus and Namor should be able to KO him with a single good placed punch.

As a matter of fact the character isn´t powerful enought to impress anyone in the strongs department, it's his personality and the fact that he is a favorite of the most popular writer in marvel what puts him in the spotlight today.

> Echo and Ronin (whether DD or Cap) I would argue are both streets, but Cap and Hawkeye have always been members and it hasn't been a problem.
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Cap and Hawkeye are leaders and the best of the best in their areas, the point of the Avengers taking in their ranks street level characters is not what I'm talkig about, is the fact that the team is composed in the majority with street levels.

When Cap was in the battlefield leading the Avengers, he had his back covered by Thor and Ironman, Cage is going to be covered by... Iron Fist and Echo... oh and Wolverine *rhe* .

> > Hopefully Strange would just get bored and will try to reform the original Defenders \:\-D (you can only hope...!)
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> I would love seeing a Defenders team that is steeped in mysticism. Mystical characters working together, such as Ghost Rider, Moon Knight, and Blade. That'd be awesome. Doc could be the leader. Him or Daredevil.
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> > >
> > > iron fist and luke cage are in the team and luke is the leader of the new avengers.
> > > http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=97902


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