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Subj: Re: "all Star" Team damned either way [SPOILERS]
Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 at 04:07:29 pm EDT
Reply Subj: "all Star" Team damned either way [SPOILERS]
Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 at 05:16:35 pm EDT
I'm not sure that it was the team that was stale. Busiek had his big story, then Johns came on with some big things. He got pulled away. They didn't really find someone to take over for a long time. To me, it wasn't the cast of characters, ti was the writers not knowing what to do with it. It got used as a jumping on point for Invaders, and things like that, that didn't help it. I agree with whoever said "it's not the characters. It's what you do with them". I like Bendis, and I'm enjoying NA, but I'm not sure it was neccesary to blow the whole team up to get there.
> Get over it, the team was stale before Disassembled and now we're all chatting away with several books each month relevant to the debate. "Classic" is relative. Aside from the disassembled ashes team that brought in heroes who rose to the occassion of the Vault outtage, most of those you list are either Tony's draftees or secret Avengers in the NA book and unofficial anyway. The Initiative is a chance to bring back many others. Avengers was nearly a carcass with flies and maggots, BENDIS! just electrocuted the corpse and franken$teined it into a wild albeit slow ride.
> I'm loving the story and art much much more than the days of Rage, Dman, Druid, Sandman, etc
> > ...Dr. Druid was in a team that consisted of Cap, Thor, Captain Marvel, Black Knight, Wasp, and She-Hulk ... which was more of a "classic" team than Power Man and Iron Fist, Spidey, Wolverine, and Dr. Strange.
> > Plus, Druid became a character the reader was supposed to hate.
> > And D-Man? Get serious. The guy was an honorary Avenger for what? All of one or two issues of Captain America?
> > The banner over at the MUB board has it right. These aren't the Avengers any more. They're "Bendis' SuperFriends."
> > > *confused*
> > >
> > >
> > > > Remember the days when one Avenger would come down the pipeline every year or so. Now it seems that everyone is offered membership.
> > > >
> > > > Has the roster some of its luster recently?
> > > > In the last 5 years we've had
> > > > Jack of Hearts
> > > > Ant Man (Scott)
> > > > Lionheart
> > > > Luke Cage
> > > > Spider-Woman
> > > > Wolverine
> > > > Sentry
> > > > Echo
> > > > Ares
> > > > Iron Fist
> > > > Dr. Strange
> > > > Ronin
> > > >
> > > > Im not saying that some of these characters dont deserve to be Avengers, it just seems to much of a good thing has made it boring
> > > >
> > > > Just my two cents...
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