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Sandman

Subj: Re: Odds against the New Avengers [SPOILERS]
Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 at 01:51:15 am EDT
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Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 at 02:39:14 pm EDT

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> Hey, is it just me or is it that the New Avengers have the odds against them now? I mean, they're on the run and it appears that every other Marvel super-hero, including some of those who were in Cap's group during the Civil War, have joined the registration. It looks like the New Avengers are outnumbered? But then again, I don't know if Matt Murdock/Daredevil or Moon Knight signed in or not. Did I miss anybody? Because the Initiative has too many guys, not to mention many C-List heroes.

Daredevil is on the run, while Moon Knight, for some reason, hasn't yet been sought after by the SHRA.

> Another thing- In Initiative #2, Beast was aiding the registration. Last I checked, the X-Men (minus Wolverine) were adamant about staying neutral because the act exempted mutants. However, the war is over and Tony's side won. So I suppose Beast is there because the X-Men still want to be in the government's good graces.

More like as a favor to Justice to help Trauma. It probably has nothing to do with SHRA since Justice seems more concern about the trainees welfare, while the rest seem to see them as weapons after that Hyra incident.

>If that's the case, then there may be some confliction with the Beast and/or the X-Men with Wolverince considering he's on the run with the New Avengers.

I'm sure that Emma believes that Wolverine should be fired like Bishop, but because of the difference, like Wolverine trying to find out the truth behind the Stamford incident, some X-Men may support him in some ways, but not totally agree.

> I hope the New Avengers find out more about their theories from the last issue because the odds don't appear to be in their favor. Am I wrong?

No, but I'm confused about the Elektra part. I thought she took over the Hand to keep them at bay and Wolverine knew of this. The conspiracy thing started to get confusing at the end of the issue when Cage started to make no sense when talking to Elektra, while at Doctor Strange's plasce it looked like it was about to lead somewhere.

> > Hey, is it just me or is it that the New Avengers have the odds against them now? I mean, they're on the run and it appears that every other Marvel super-hero, including some of those who were in Cap's group during the Civil War, have joined the registration. It looks like the New Avengers are outnumbered? But then again, I don't know if Matt Murdock/Daredevil or Moon Knight signed in or not. Did I miss anybody? Because the Initiative has too many guys, not to mention many C-List heroes.
>
> Daredevil is on the run, while Moon Knight, for some reason, hasn't yet been sought after by the SHRA.
>
Moonie is pretty good at hiding himself, and Stark knows he operates alone- even Cap wanted him out of the Civil War.

> > Another thing- In Initiative #2, Beast was aiding the registration. Last I checked, the X-Men (minus Wolverine) were adamant about staying neutral because the act exempted mutants. However, the war is over and Tony's side won. So I suppose Beast is there because the X-Men still want to be in the government's good graces.
>
Beast is an ex-Avenger and is the most recognizable face from the X-Men-plus he's Might Avenger Wonder Man's best friend. THe training youth heroes idea smacks of X-Men all over, it's only natural he be asked to lend a hand.

> More like as a favor to Justice to help Trauma. It probably has nothing to do with SHRA since Justice seems more concern about the trainees welfare, while the rest seem to see them as weapons after that Hyra incident.
>
Beast is the oldest of the original X-Men( Iceman, Cyclops, Angel and Jean Grey) and is more and more the senior figure over there, so being in the INitiative is a logical plance for him.

> >If that's the case, then there may be some confliction with the Beast and/or the X-Men with Wolverince considering he's on the run with the New Avengers.
>
Wolverine should and can never be stopped by anyone short of Professor X or Captain America- that's just who he is. Bishop is totally with the registration, so why stop Wolverine from opposing it? He doesn't speak for the X-Men, even if he stuck with them during Cap's last battle.

> I'm sure that Emma believes that Wolverine should be fired like Bishop, but because of the difference, like Wolverine trying to find out the truth behind the Stamford incident, some X-Men may support him in some ways, but not totally agree.
>
Bishop was not fired- he left the X-Men to concentrate on the SHRA and not to implicate them in anything he might have to do. He left amicably, no one fired him.

> > I hope the New Avengers find out more about their theories from the last issue because the odds don't appear to be in their favor. Am I wrong?
>
> No, but I'm confused about the Elektra part. I thought she took over the Hand to keep them at bay and Wolverine knew of this. The conspiracy thing started to get confusing at the end of the issue when Cage started to make no sense when talking to Elektra, while at Doctor Strange's plasce it looked like it was about to lead somewhere.


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