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Subj: HATED IT Re: NA: Illuminati #3 questions. [BIG SPOILERS]
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 at 02:54:51 am EDT
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Ok these questions may seem very minor....but....

The Fantastic four were staying with the Avengers after the first Secret Wars Right? And then they built Four Freedoms Plaza because the Baxter Building had been destroyed? If thats true then WHY on earth does Reed say "But I've had the Baxter Buildings interdemensional sensors on the lookout for the beyonder ever since the battleworld idiocy"? The Baxter Building had been destroyed before the Secret wars....Right?

Next....when Xavier is looking into the Beyonders mind and he's "Showing him something" There are 8 shadowed figures standing there....but the royal family is just 6....was that intentional do you think? maybe to show he comes fromt he inhumans and not to show just the royal family?
And...does it seem that theres some mental chatting happening between Xavier and Blackbolt at the end of the scene with them on the moon.....it almost appears as if theres more to be read into that.

When they confront the Beyonder on top of the "Baxter Building" they tell him he has no right to interfere in the species evolution...then make the comment "It's our species" (Note Black Bolt is standing with them) when he tells them that they Interfere.....since when is it better to this group to expell a creature with Power....didn't Xavier open his school to train people in the use of their powers for the greater good? Isn't Franklin Richards on par with the power level of the Beyonder (Or at least somehwere close to it) he's not being sent to the galaxy of Naph'leham......so what gives Reed? And I can't see Blackbolt being that passive on sending one of his people away....he's very protective of his people and would never allow the "Team" to decide what to do if the Beyonder is a true Inhuman.....he would deal with that with his council...the royal family, and make his own decision.

Um....Dr Strange has a fantasy with Wanda? PLEASE! Stupid, Stupid, Stupid.

Iron Men and woman everywhere? Who's dream is that supposed to be out of the group standing there?

Namor say what? "And quite an (Should it really be An?) %^$#ing idiot" Would Namor really speak like that?

So Ultimately my guess as to the idea of the entire thing is this: The Beyonder is an inhuman from the future. Obviously he was questioning how Blackbolt could still be alive after all this time.....and being that this issue didn't seem like it was really showing anything besides the fact that the Illuminati has been active in marvels history for a while.....which would be silly if showing this was not to a point. I hope this issue will be relivant in the future....maybe the idea is that the Beyonder will be present sometime soon in the Inhumans future...getting ready to enter the Mists.

Also....someone in another post said the Beyonder died in Annihilation....can someone tell me where that was? I read the entire thing and I guess missed it....so I was hoping for someone to tell me so I can check it out.

Thanks....tell me what your thought were on this.

Philmer-Ken


Hey all,

I don't post here often, but watch. \:\-\)

I just read issue 3, but I really just had to express how much I HATED IT.

As soon as I heard Xavier make his surprise announcement. And it was a surprise, on that page.

The Beyonder an Inhuman? Talk about COMPLETELY missing the creator of the character, Jim Shooter's point. It just trashed the creator of the characters origin, and viewpoint 100% utterly and completely.

That soooo is not what the character of the Beyonder was about.

This also reminds me of that whole Beyonder Kosmos debacle. Which last year or so I remember on Byrne's board, mentioning how a creator then, who had a grudge against Shooter, took it out on his character, the Beyonder. Which probably explains what happened to the character. And how that made no sense either. And it did seem mean spirited back then.
Anyway I just read issue 3, and UTTERLY HATED IT!

I just thought the original concept of the character was a great idea. And it's a shame, the character hasn't been handled well ever since, in others hands.

And while I did mention Jim Shooter, check out his Valiant Solar run, the first 15 issues. To read how he handles all powerful type characters. I think he always handled them well, in a way other creators never could.

I look back on this issue, as a big disappointment in a comic book. And the first in quite a while to this degree. I enjoyed the One-shot and the first two issues of this mini-series. I was also hyped when I heard the Beyonder would be in issue 3. So that for me makes it even more of a disappointment.

But this for me was a total washout of a great character idea, and two writers in Bendis, and Reed who clearly did not do there research, or just missed the point entirely of what this character was and should be about, and the potential the character originally had.

At this point Bendis and Reed totally dropped the ball. And worse, this probably relegates the character into something not special at all anymore. And a status that will probably stick with the Beyonder from now on.

The only good thing is maybe with this type of expose, he'd get a Marvel Legends figure. Which would be cool. But that's about it.



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