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Subj: The tragedy of it is.... [BIG SPOILERS]
Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 at 12:02:49 am EDT
Reply Subj: HATED IT Re: NA: Illuminati #3 questions. [BIG SPOILERS]
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 at 02:54:51 am EDT

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Hey all,

I don't post here often, but watch. \:\-\)

I just read issue 3, but I really just had to express how much I HATED IT.

As soon as I heard Xavier make his surprise announcement. And it was a surprise, on that page.

The Beyonder an Inhuman? Talk about COMPLETELY missing the creator of the character, Jim Shooter's point. It just trashed the creator of the characters origin, and viewpoint 100% utterly and completely.

That soooo is not what the character of the Beyonder was about.

This also reminds me of that whole Beyonder Kosmos debacle. Which last year or so I remember on Byrne's board, mentioning how a creator then, who had a grudge against Shooter, took it out on his character, the Beyonder. Which probably explains what happened to the character. And how that made no sense either. And it did seem mean spirited back then.
Anyway I just read issue 3, and UTTERLY HATED IT!

I just thought the original concept of the character was a great idea. And it's a shame, the character hasn't been handled well ever since, in others hands.

And while I did mention Jim Shooter, check out his Valiant Solar run, the first 15 issues. To read how he handles all powerful type characters. I think he always handled them well, in a way other creators never could.

I look back on this issue, as a big disappointment in a comic book. And the first in quite a while to this degree. I enjoyed the One-shot and the first two issues of this mini-series. I was also hyped when I heard the Beyonder would be in issue 3. So that for me makes it even more of a disappointment.

But this for me was a total washout of a great character idea, and two writers in Bendis, and Reed who clearly did not do there research, or just missed the point entirely of what this character was and should be about, and the potential the character originally had.

At this point Bendis and Reed totally dropped the ball. And worse, this probably relegates the character into something not special at all anymore. And a status that will probably stick with the Beyonder from now on.

The only good thing is maybe with this type of expose, he'd get a Marvel Legends figure. Which would be cool. But that's about it.


...that in the interviews promoting this issue, they talked about "repairing" the Beyonder, and "putting him back out there as a useable character".

> Hey all,
>
> I don't post here often, but watch. \:\-\)
>
> I just read issue 3, but I really just had to express how much I HATED IT.
>
> As soon as I heard Xavier make his surprise announcement. And it was a surprise, on that page.
>
> The Beyonder an Inhuman? Talk about COMPLETELY missing the creator of the character, Jim Shooter's point. It just trashed the creator of the characters origin, and viewpoint 100% utterly and completely.
>
> That soooo is not what the character of the Beyonder was about.
>
> This also reminds me of that whole Beyonder Kosmos debacle. Which last year or so I remember on Byrne's board, mentioning how a creator then, who had a grudge against Shooter, took it out on his character, the Beyonder. Which probably explains what happened to the character. And how that made no sense either. And it did seem mean spirited back then.

Indeed, the "Kosmos" explanation involved Galactus, Death and all the other cosmic powers taking a dive and "pretending" to be less powerful than the Beyonder because....uh....it doesn't make sense.

And of course, the "Shooter grudge" also played out in far more mean-spirited ways in Byrne's work on Star Brand.

> Anyway I just read issue 3, and UTTERLY HATED IT!
>
> I just thought the original concept of the character was a great idea. And it's a shame, the character hasn't been handled well ever since, in others hands.
>
> And while I did mention Jim Shooter, check out his Valiant Solar run, the first 15 issues. To read how he handles all powerful type characters. I think he always handled them well, in a way other creators never could.

It's yet another one of those examples of a character whose original concept was simple enough, and worked well enough, that every attempt to revise who and what he is has been a terribly misguided idea.

> I look back on this issue, as a big disappointment in a comic book. And the first in quite a while to this degree. I enjoyed the One-shot and the first two issues of this mini-series. I was also hyped when I heard the Beyonder would be in issue 3. So that for me makes it even more of a disappointment.
>
> But this for me was a total washout of a great character idea, and two writers in Bendis, and Reed who clearly did not do there research, or just missed the point entirely of what this character was and should be about, and the potential the character originally had.
>
> At this point Bendis and Reed totally dropped the ball. And worse, this probably relegates the character into something not special at all anymore. And a status that will probably stick with the Beyonder from now on.
>
> The only good thing is maybe with this type of expose, he'd get a Marvel Legends figure. Which would be cool. But that's about it.

That's about all we could get from it. The chances of some other writer seeing the issue and getting inspired to restore the Beyonder to the original concept are pretty slim.

Strangely, there's also a lot of "just doesn't fit anywhen" about the issue, given that Xavier was walking at this time, and the Beyonder didn't take that particular human form until Secret Wars 2 #3. And yet the issue gives a weird sort-of implication that Secret Wars 2 entirely took place on the Beyonder's asteroid in a fake city with fake people, right down to the Illuminati interrupting the Heroes for Hire/gold building scene from #2. And yet if they ARE trying to say that, it can't possibly work.

Of course, I already knew they were ruining the Beyonder when I bought the issue for the art alone, and then they go and cheese me/myself/Century off even more with Strange's "perfect world". For the love of Zod, enough with people wanting to sleep with the Witch already. There isn't someone from his series who it'd have made sense for Strange to want?


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