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Chris Bechtloff

Subj: You know...
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 at 10:03:55 pm EDT
Reply Subj: You know, all and all, I think this is a pretty good time to be an Avengers Fan.
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 at 05:09:47 pm EDT

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Seriously, I've been a big fan of the Avengers since Busiek and Pereze got me hooked with the first issue of Vol.3. I know theres alot of negatives what with Cap being dead and Tony turning into a major @$$. But on that first point, I gotta admit, even with Cap dead I cant remember the last time I've enjoyed his book this much. And you've got a pretty wide variety of Avengers titles out there right now. Pretty much something for everybody. You got a renegade underground Avengers in New Avengers. You got a powerful, more classic line-up In Mighty Avengers. You got a an Avengers boot Camp in The Inititive. You've got a critically acclaimed re-imagioning in The Ultimates, You got a pretty decent read for kids with Marvel Adventures:Avengers, and you even got the Lee and Kirby stuff being reprinted with Avengers: Classics. I know theres always someway things could be better, but I think we Avengers fans got it pretty good right now.


I could not DISagree with you more. As an Avengers fan who first got hooked in the 240s of volume 1, I find little to like today.

In Mighty you get a handful of classic Avengers written poorly and out of character. Let's revert Wasp to the flighty little girl she was 40 years ago and ignore her maturity and leadership skills. Let's make Natasha a cold assassin, even though she has rarely been that. Let's throw in Sentry because he's Nu-Marvel Kewl.

In New, we get a bunch of name brand characters who have never really been Avengers carrying on the name. I get that to many several of them have become key Avengers of late, but not to me. I could live with the coming on with some tie to the old days with Cap and IM. Now they just come off as pretenders for me.

In the Intiative we get a bunch of kids getting slaughtered in the name of government registration while the guy supposedly training them belittles them left and right and Rhodey inexplicably chooses to forget he has a spine on goes along with Tony NOW despite all the times when he's walked for much worse reasons.

Man, give me the halycion days of Avengers Unplugged compared to this dreck. Sales may be better because they have Wolvie, Spidey, and a new jerky Iron-Man, but you can count me out.

And no, I am not just against change. I dug the Giffen Justice League despite its much different tone from the classic League. I didn't mind the Crossing and the changes they tried to do there (with the possible exception of the costumes). I'm cool with change when it makes since and evolves. Nu-Marvel has always seemed far from that for me.

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